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#1225878 - Wed May 23 2018 12:35 AM Re: I'm surprised nobody's brought up the Childish Gambino video yet... [Re: Matter-eater Man]
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 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
So you and g think companies shouldn't have control over their content?


I just said what I think.

That the rule of law should apply one standard to everyone, Democrat or Republican.

Either both should be able to control business according to their beliefs, or both should not be able to discriminate against messages and beliefs they don't agree with. No double standards.

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    Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.

    EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.

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#1225879 - Wed May 23 2018 07:24 AM Re: I'm surprised nobody's brought up the Childish Gambino video yet... [Re: Wonder Boy]
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So strip out the protections against religion would be something you would be supportive of?

Fair play!

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#1225880 - Wed May 23 2018 06:51 PM Re: I'm surprised nobody's brought up the Childish Gambino video yet... [Re: Matter-eater Man]
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I think the boards are broken again. I clicked on the Media section but got taken to the Politics section.


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#1225883 - Wed May 23 2018 06:56 PM Re: I'm surprised nobody's brought up the Childish Gambino video yet... [Re: Son of Mxy]
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#1225884 - Thu May 24 2018 12:58 AM Re: I'm surprised nobody's brought up the Childish Gambino video yet... [Re: Matter-eater Man]
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 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
So you and g think companies shouldn't have control over their content?


I just said what I think.

That the rule of law should apply one standard to everyone, Democrat or Republican.

Either both should be able to control business according to their beliefs, or both should not be able to discriminate against messages and beliefs they don't agree with. No double standards.


 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
So strip out the protections against religion would be something you would be supportive of?


That's rather ambiguous. And unless you have a specific factual argument, the protections of religion are in our founding documents, and I see no reason for the U.S. to set them aside. They were put in place because we are a republic founded on Biblical principles (primary of which is our U.S. Constitution, a contract between a government and its people, that mirrors the contract between God and Man in the Old and New Testaments).
In addition, the Bible teaches a moral standard that keeps us unified as a people (at least until the point in 1963 where Leftist forces began to increasingly push us away from that standard.)

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Of all the dispositions and habits that lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indespensible supports. In vain would man claim the tribue of patriotism who should labor to subvert the great pillars of human happiness... True religion affords to government its surest support.
--George Washington

Our Constitution is made for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other.
--John Adams

Religion is deemed in other countries as incompatible with good government, and yet proved by our own experience as its best support.
--Thomas Jefferson



Presumably, the protections of the Church and religious freedom were to encourage them, to grow them, to encourage what was/is good for the health of our constitutional republic. And to encourage the community and charity that surround churches.

And:

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A general dissolution of principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common enemy. While the people are virtuous, they cannot be subdued; but when they lose their virtue they will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or internal invader.
--Samuel Adams


That is precisely the Cultural Marxist plan that has been unfolding in the U.S. for over 50 years. And is the stated plan of the Frankfurt School that escaped Germany to the U.S. in the 1930's, their disciples who came of age in the 1960's, and their current progeny among the inner circles of Obama, Hillary, and the Democrat/Left. That is not conspiracy theory, that is precisely the battle plan plainly stated in the writings and public statements of 80 years of Cultural Marxists.
It is their plan to create doubts and splintering divisions in our western culture and topple the pillars of our culture (Christianity, family, and nationalism) so those pillars will no longer exist, and then a demoralized people will passively not resist the new socialist/globalist order.

The opening video to this topic is just one more drop in the ocean of liberal propaganda toward that end.



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#1225899 - Thu May 24 2018 07:53 PM Re: I'm surprised nobody's brought up the Childish Gambino video yet... [Re: Wonder Boy]
Matter-eater Man
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I was just seeing if you were applying your previous principle about applying one standard to everyone. Religious exceptions don't do that.

Fair play!

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#1225901 - Thu May 24 2018 11:06 PM Re: I'm surprised nobody's brought up the Childish Gambino video yet... [Re: Matter-eater Man]
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Asked and answered.
There are religious exceptions because they are not just another bakery or shoe manufacturer. They were recognized from the nation's beginning as something of unique benefit to the community and vital health of the nation, and therefore uniquely encouraged, since the nation's inception.

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#1225909 - Sun May 27 2018 08:40 AM Re: I'm surprised nobody's brought up the Childish Gambino video yet... [Re: Wonder Boy]
Matter-eater Man
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Yes but even with religious exceptions there are limits. While you and g reduce it to sides the principle of the law using one standard is important to everyone.

Fair play!

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#1225911 - Mon May 28 2018 06:37 AM Re: I'm surprised nobody's brought up the Childish Gambino video yet... [Re: Matter-eater Man]
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Respectfully, Christian church attendance is imploding and goes down several percentage points every time they do another Gallup poll on the subject (and I've linked many here in the past.)

Churches often have so few members that many no longer have their own buildings as they used to, and are instead renting space in strip shopping centers, or even local high schools.

That is often true in Catholic schools as well. Pat Buchanan cited in SUICIDE OF A SUPERPOWER that Catholic schools (he is Catholic, I am not) that Catholic schools have increasing trouble, and are often compelled by lack of applicants to hire non-Catholics, and even non-Christians, to teach in their schools, and how that renders Catholic education often questionable in its effectiveness in preserving the faith.

So I don't see how Christianity is much of a threat, let alone a rising threat. And whatever minor tax breaks churches have are far from the only tax exemptions.
If you want to demagogue a group for tax exemptions, corporate subsidies would be a far more valid target, since they reap billions in subsidies and tax breaks they don't even need in many cases. Under Obama, two examples are GE and Solyndra, whose subsidies were the equivalent of state-run capitalism as practiced in communist China, where the government picks what companies are winners and losers. And in Solyndra's case, wasting a lot of taxpayer dollars on something that didn't even work.

Even in the era of President George W. Bush, who was the most devout Christian in office since Ronald Reagan, Christian evangelicals said they felt betrayed and marginalized, despite their strong support of W. Bush.
And other nations give special tax status to churches. Canada, for example. I don't see that churches are great abusers of the system. Or again, any kind of a rising threat to the Left or anyone else. I would assume Jewish, Islamic, Hindu and even gay churches have the same exemptions.

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#1226034 - Sun Jun 17 2018 05:41 PM Re: I'm surprised nobody's brought up the Childish Gambino video yet... [Re: Son of Mxy]
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 Originally Posted By: Son of Mxy
I think the boards are broken again. I clicked on the Media section but got taken to the Politics section.


Right? It's like every couple pages, I think I'm in the Media section for a moment, then, boom. Hard left into the ass-end of the Politics board.

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