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I've got a questioon for ya...
What is space (outer) held in? What holds space?
If you think about it, everything is contained in something...molecules revolve around atoms...which make up objects, those objects are contained within something, say like cells to make up humans-to give one example. We humans are held here on earth. Earth is held within our solar system, which is held within our galaxy, which is held within "space." So, what is space held in? Probably too vast of a knowledge for us to understand...

some things are too complex for the human brain to understand! So I don't bother with them unless I want to get a huge headache! Things like how did God create himself? Did god create us or did we come from monkeys? If god created the human race as his image does god look like a caveman? and did he create beings in other planets? does aliens really exist? is our universe just a small part of a bigger thing? what really happen after we die? and so on and so on....

Space is an absence of anything, so there is nothing to hold.

Space are the gaps in the universe.

The universe is virtually infinite in size.

Although I did read somewhere that someone theorised it was saddle shaped.

Of course, there is a lot of stuff aside from all that space. Below is a picture taken by Hubble of what they thought was a blank piece of space:



Go to www.hubblesite.org/gallery for more pics.

Oct. 30 — Astronomers have discovered an ancient star near the center of our galaxy that may shed light on the universe’s composition shortly after it was blasted into existence by the Big Bang.

THIS COSMIC RELIC is thought to be more than 12 billion years old — meaning it came into being about a billion years after the Big Bang. The star has an extremely low metal content, some 1/200,000th of that found in our sun. That is 20 times less metal than the previous lowest-metal star, found in 1977.
The star’s age and composition place it among the second wave of stars that formed after the universe’s violent creation, its discoverers said. Researchers had predicted this type of ultra-low metal star 25 years ago, but an example eluded them until now.
Michael S. Bessell, an astronomers at Australia’s Mount Stromlo Observatory, said the newly discovered star arose from the debris of a first-generation star, so it contains only a very small amount of heavy elements.
“This really traces things back to the very early stages of the universe because stars are records of that time. This is an indicator of those times,” said Bessell, the star’s co-discoverer.

MILKY WAY’S CENTER
The star is described in Thursday’s issue of the journal Nature.
Dubbed HE0107-5240, it is located 36,000 light-years from Earth, near the center of the Milky Way, and is about four-fifths the size of our sun. It is located in the constellation Pisces but is too dim to be seen with the naked eye.

Scientists believe that after the Big Bang, the universe was composed only of hydrogen, helium and a trace of lithium — the lightest elements — and that the other naturally occurring elements were forged inside stars, which are essentially gigantic nuclear furnaces.
The first generation of stars that formed from the gas and dust cast outward by the explosion were massive, fast-burning and short-lived. When they exploded as supernovae they began tainting the universe with the first doses of heavier elements, which astronomers call metals. This debris formed stars like HE0107-5240, scientists said.

DECADES-LONG QUEST
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The star’s discovery is exciting for astronomers, who had grown frustrated after decades of searching, said Volker Bromm of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Cambridge, Mass.
Bromm, who was not involved in the research, said this star and others that may yet be found could yield clues to the evolution of star formation.
“It’s clear that these very first stars were very different from present-day stars. The question is, when and how did the transition in the way of forming stars take place between these first stars that predominantly formed and massive stars to the more normal mode ... in our Milky Way?” he said.

George W. Preston, an astronomer and retired director of the Carnegie Observatories in Pasadena, Calif., said the next step will be finding more members of what he jokingly called “The Class of 13 Billion B.C.”
“Finding this star confirms in a general way one of the expectations of the Big Bang theory, but finding one is hardly useful for making far-reaching conclusions,” he said.
Bessell said the nine-member team that took part in the research found it after reviewing some of 8,000 stars they had culled from hundreds of thousands of candidates. So far, they are only a quarter of the way through that list.

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If someone thought that the universe is saddle shaped, then what pray tell holds it? Does it just float there, and if it does what does it float in? I know these questions are impossible to answer...but it does make you think, don't it?
By the way, cool pic!

What do you think will happen if we start travling throught
space and colonize other worlds? Do you thinl
after living on those worlds for a few hundred
years we would have those worlds totally messed up?

[ 11-04-2002, 11:07 AM: Message edited by: Lothar of The Hill People ]

Yep.....unless those spore plants give us total peace of mind & we all wear green jumpsuits.

Think about places humans have colonised. Like North America, South America, and Australia. Are these places fucked up, or just different to how they used to be?

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Originally posted by wenchofthelodge:
If someone thought that the universe is saddle shaped, then what pray tell holds it? Does it just float there, and if it does what does it float in? I know these questions are impossible to answer...but it does make you think, don't it?
By the way, cool pic!

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I think its a mobius saddle. It has no beginning and no end.

Space...

the final frontier.
...these are the voyages of the starship Enterprise.
It's 5 year mission to explore strange new worlds
to seek out new life and new civilizations.

...To boldly go where no man has gone before.

sorry, couldn't resist.

Supposedly, The shock waves of the big bang are still going strong. The universe is expanding every nanosecond, until it reaches the point where it starts to implode. Thats what enthropy is. So, basically, were just riding out the waves on our little planet until the tide goes back out and were all destroyed. Personally, I aint worried about it. Got faith in other things.

As far as that center of the universe star goes, Rob. That is news to me. Pretty interesting though.

[ 11-28-2002, 09:26 AM: Message edited by: Sonhaven ]

And supposedly the earth gets closer to the sun every year, so that eventually we (the earth) will be "eaten" by the sun! I'm not too worried either...by the time that happens, I'll be dead and gone for a long, long time and by the rate we humans are going, we probably won't be here either.

I don't wanna die a virgin when the sun eats us!

I don't think that you will die a virgin, dear!

Really?

Really!