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gail simone kicks ass. i mean, really, she kicks ass. she's taken characters that i, frankly, couldn't give two shits for (or, perhaps, its worse if i could give two shits for...) and turned an essentially worthless, pass-over book into just a damn good, top notch, must read. benes and a few other talented artists are certainly due their much deserved credit, and i'll heartily admit, it was benes' pencils that got me to actually give the book a chance. but, holy fuck, simone tells some great tales. she writes a great barbara, black canary, huntress, shiva, batman, james gordon, blue beetle... all inside this teeny tiny, oft unnoticed title. well, fucking notice it. cuz, while its still here, some of comics greatest combatitive, and particularly non combatitive, moments are taking place. its not mind wiping. its not mutant killing. its not time altering juggernauts from not-too-distant planets. its just damn good comics. in this latest issue, #89, not only do we see an amazing calculator vs oracle tease, not only do we get a turning point moment from a newly-turned-himself hero, not only do we see the startings of a battle royale featuring fan fav deathstroke, not only do we hear more about barbara's progression from paralysis, not only do we see a squaring off between batman and his uneasy allies... but we get one of comicdom's most amazing moments with babs' secret ID unveiling to her father. its not teased on the cover. its not the book's 2-page-spread conclusive finale. its just a great part of a great story, and fully delves into many other amazing comic book possibilities, not the least of which is the oft-wondered "does jim gordon know bruce wayne is batman?" question. check this book the fuck out. related RKMBs articles:
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Interesting. I just dropped this title a few months back.
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it was a long overdue (and in the wrong hands, would've been anti-climactic) moment, but Simone handled it well.
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I'll check it out tomorrow.
Doesn't mean I'm going to buy it though.
I'm just sayin'.
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Simone sucks.......The end.
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I dig on Gail, but I left the book when Benes did.
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SOMEONE HERE'S A TWO-FACED FUCKIN' PUSSY CUNT MOTHERFUCKER!!!
Who's definitely a mod.
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She turned an enjoyable action book into a bull shit Spice Girls style feminism crap fest!
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I read it for the boobies.
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I swear to god, I thought Jim knew Babs was Batgirl for about the last twenty years.
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And he DEFINITELY knows Bruce is Batman.
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Amusing that the other batgirl died this month.
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Really? I liked that character. Cassie the illiterate daughter of Cain?
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Yeah, but there is something about Shiva and the lazarus pit next issue which is the last..I'm thinking Shiva is her mother...
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First Amongst Daves said: Really? I liked that character. Cassie the illiterate daughter of Cain?
She was very interesting until they decided to cure her illiteracy with deus ex machina bullshit. They pulled in a psychic and--BAM! Excellent speach.
Sooooooo fucking stupid. Her inability to speak is what gave her interest.
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Thing is- I can’t spell or type. I spell so badly my spell check doesn’t even know what I was trying to spell. And I have five Eisners HAHAHAHHA!!
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"Now TV's all about format these days isn't it, and I've got a new type for you right here.
Its me and Paris Hilton driving around in a car.... Now I know what you're thinking, but she's in the boot!"
"So you see, 'Ring around the Rosey' refers to the horrible symptoms of a terrifying disease, a disease which.....a disease which....ZIM! Theres a Pigeon on you're head. You have 'Head Pigeons'. get to the Nurse before they spread to the other children."
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First Amongst Daves said: Really? I liked that character. Cassie the illiterate daughter of Cain?
She was very interesting until they decided to cure her illiteracy with deus ex machina bullshit. They pulled in a psychic and--BAM! Excellent speach.
Sooooooo fucking stupid. Her inability to speak is what gave her interest.
Hard to write though. Blind characters are easier to do in a visual medium. You generally need word balloons in comics.
I actually thought she couldn't read, not couldn't speak.
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Either way, I like the character, but I think the costume sucks. Should just lose it altogether.
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Wouldn't that be child pornography?
"Now TV's all about format these days isn't it, and I've got a new type for you right here.
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the G-man said: I swear to god, I thought Jim knew Babs was Batgirl for about the last twenty years.
Actually, he says that. It's the Oracle thing he didn't know.
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Well played.
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No.
You're supposed to say, "Very good. I approve."
MisterJLA says, "Well played."
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Nothing like SPOILERS front page and all!
YOU PUT SOUP IN IT!
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Pariah said: No.
You're supposed to say, "Very good. I approve."
MisterJLA says, "Well played."
RACK Pariah!
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yeah, i actually debated as to whether or not to place the image here.
... but then, i figured, unless you're one of the 4,500 people buying this book, it wont matter. y'give away some surprises to "put people in the seats"
this moment wasn't teased in the previous issue, or previous 20 issues. it wasn't foreshadowed on the cover. there was <i>no</i> indication that something like this would happen. it wasn't even the issue's big "pay off" finale. it was just a moment that would have, otherwise, been entirely passed over.
but stuff like this happens, and happens well, in birds of prey all the time lately.
whether its the final few days of blue beetle, or babs regaining some of her mobility, or the commish learning of his daughters' heroic double life -- and subsequently, possibly batman's.... its all just part of this book. this tiny little back corner, bottom shelf book, that never makes a buzz, never gets attention, and dwindles in sales charts.
so, i was doin my little part by giving it some attention.
perhaps franta claus can deliver the issue to all of his many, beloved children, now that he is aware that it could actually be a kick ass book.
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You aint getting shit Kamphausen!
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this'll be the first year i dont get shit!
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It will be the greatest first year you don't get shit EVAR!
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Good thing it won't happen to Dave!
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the G-man said: I swear to god, I thought Jim knew Babs was Batgirl for about the last twenty years.
Actually, he says that. It's the Oracle thing he didn't know.
I was going to say I though Jim knew she was Batgirl as well. I'm remembering a mention of this after she was shot (I want to say). That or I'm remembering something that was retconned out (hard to keep track of what's been retconned and what hasn't been).
Looks like I'll be paying a local comic shop a visit this week to pick this issue up. Sounds too good to pass up. Hopefully I'll remember to go on Friday.
It's a rented tux ok? I'm not going comando in another man's fatigues.
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I was going to say I though Jim knew she was Batgirl as well. I'm remembering a mention of this after she was shot (I want to say). That or I'm remembering something that was retconned out (hard to keep track of what's been retconned and what hasn't been).
in current "possibly about to get fucked up" continuity, jim never revealed knowing that babs was either oracle or batgirl. and, as far as babs knew, her father knew nothing of either, and she wasn't about to reveal the info.
not until this issue, anyway.
it has always been speculated that jim, a seasoned cop and brilliant detective would, and should, have been able to "crack the code" long ago for both batgirl and batman. there are "plausible deniability" moments discussed and seen between batman and gordon in miller's year one, the contagion saga, and no man's land, to name a few. however, none have conclusively shown who knows what.
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Looks like I'll be paying a local comic shop a visit this week to pick this issue up.
hooray! a sale!
...on...
something i make no profit from!
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I was going to do that, but I've been bugging Rob too much...well, more than usual.
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robbie sleepy
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Rob has me on ignore.
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