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The answer is Taft.
They say that cat Taft is one bad mother....


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I'm only talking about Taft.


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Did you know...

That Taft was the only man to serve as President, Speaker of the House and Chief Justice of the Supreme Court?

And he was huge. They had on display at the Mission Inn a chair specially built for him for a stay during his Presidency. At least 2 normal people could fit in it.

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Did you know...

That Taft was the only man to serve as President, Speaker of the House and Chief Justice of the Supreme Court?

And he was huge. They had on display at the Mission Inn a chair specially built for him for a stay during his Presidency. At least 2 normal people could fit in it.




He's also from Ohio. Invented the 7th inning stretch while attending a game in Washington. There's a statue of him outside the University of Cincinnati College of Law.


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Taft is my second favorite President from Ohio! Warren G. Harding embodied the true spirit of Republicans to this day! His love child with Nan Britton is an old friend of the family!

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Twenty seconds after this photograph was taken, the chair broke under Taft's weight. Five seconds after that, the deck went under with it.

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It wasn't an iceberg that sank the Titanic; it was Taft going for a swim!


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Taft was severely overweight to the point that he became stuck in the bathtub in the White House several times, prompting the installation of a new bathtub capable of holding all of the men who installed it- a truth the White House denied until it was torn out years later. At 6 feet, and weighing over 350 pounds (159 kg), Taft was the largest and heaviest President. There is some evidence that his mother started calling him "my pudgy-wudgy boy" before his fifth birthday. This may have led to his disdain for the word "pudgy." In fact, it was said that an aide blacked out "pudgy" from his morning newspaper.




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The random chattiness of this thread notwithstanding...

The question I have is: in an age of television and people obsessed with their looks, could a man of Taft's girth still be elected President?

At least since Reagan, it seems as if EVERY President has to be seen as some sort of athlete.

Reagan was an ex-football player, golfer and equestrian. Bush was a skier, boater, etc. Clinton a jogger.

Both Bush and Kerry went out of their way to try and appear athletic.

Are we now a nation that, like a High School Senior Prom, only elects "jocks" to the highest office in the land?

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Y'know maybe if we didn't know that Clinton was running back and forth to the McDonalds you might have had a point.

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Good point. However, even with those jogs ending up at McDonalds, Clinton already seemed more like one of the "jocks" or "cool kids" (so to speak) that a fat dude. If anything, he came off as the big jock who had gone a bit to seed but still "chased the ladies."

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I never saw Clinton as a jock, but more as a general nerdy guy who still liked rock. He played in the band. I know he won a Rhodes scholarship, but the jogging thing seemed more an after-effect, like, "OK, now I'm president I need to jog."


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The random chattiness of this thread notwithstanding...

The question I have is: in an age of television and people obsessed with their looks, could a man of Taft's girth still be elected President?

At least since Reagan, it seems as if EVERY President has to be seen as some sort of athlete.

Reagan was an ex-football player, golfer and equestrian. Bush was a skier, boater, etc. Clinton a jogger.

Both Bush and Kerry went out of their way to try and appear athletic.

Are we now a nation that, like a High School Senior Prom, only elects "jocks" to the highest office in the land?




Great question. I think most would agree that the 3 greatest presidents in our history were Washington, Lincoln and FDR. All of these men were aesthetically challenged in one way or another. Washington had his clackers, Lincoln was about as homely as they come and FDR had his wheelchair. Could any of these 3 win election today?

Reagan certainly took advantage of his acting skills and good looks. But to give him his due he had a lot of experience in political leadership. He'd been the president of SAG and the governor of California. There was beef there.
GHWB had the Golden Resume. Clinton was a fatty when elected but again, he was accomplished in many ways: Former gov., Rhoads Scholar, etc. Kennedy was certainly a pretty boy but he had many accomplishments, too.

I'd say the only two that got their on their looks have been, GWB and Warren Harding! Warren was eye candy for the ladies in their first election. Also a guys' guy extrordinairre. Most nights at the White House were spent drinking whiskey, smoking cigars and playing cards!

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It's not a question of "getting by on looks." I'm not going to accuse any of the Presidents of my life, left or right, of that. And if it was just looks, Quayle might be President today.

However, I am wondering if looks haven't become an important component. That we can't elect a President, even a brilliant one if he doesn't have a certain look or aura of athleticism.

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GHWB certainly did not portray an aura of athleticism. I mean, he attends baseball games, but that hardly counts.


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GHWB certainly did not portray an aura of athleticism. I mean, he attends baseball games, but that hardly counts.




Well, he'll never make the cover of Blue Boy, but he does have that Marlboro Man thing going for him.

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GHWB certainly did not portray an aura of athleticism. I mean, he attends baseball games, but that hardly counts.




He was an athlete in college, was always riding bikes and boating while Prez (not to mention hunting and fishing) and was a skydiver at the age of eighty.

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I don't recall any of that, so you can see how well that aspect of GHWB stuck with me.

Fishing is not athletic. Hunting might count, but only slightly more.

Your average joe goes bike riding. Reagan's equestrian stuff was interesting because he was doing it while being an old geezer.


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The random chattiness of this thread notwithstanding...

The question I have is: in an age of television and people obsessed with their looks, could a man of Taft's girth still be elected President?







with a person as popular as teddy in his corner, it's possible. not a sure thing, but possible.

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It's not a question of "getting by on looks." I'm not going to accuse any of the Presidents of my life, left or right, of that. And if it was just looks, Quayle might be President today.

However, I am wondering if looks haven't become an important component. That we can't elect a President, even a brilliant one if he doesn't have a certain look or aura of athleticism.



Obviously. Washington, Lincoln, FDR were all ugly men who sold themselves by speeches and not Barbra Walters interview.
In this modern age of celebrity the color of the tie and the fullness of the hair matter as much as speeches.


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r3x29yz4a said:Obviously. Washington, Lincoln, FDR were all ugly men




Actually, I seem to recall reading once that Washington was considered quite a handsome fellow for the times. And FDR, who went to great pains to hide his disability, was also considered a handsome fellow

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FDR also had the reputation of being very charming and magnetic (which made him the polar opposite in a number of ways to the man he beat, Herbert Hoover or Hoobert Heever or some such).


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