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PrincessElisa #689013 2006-07-06 11:30 PM
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Great review, dear. However, as for alot of your questions for us......did you even read any of the other posts in this thread?

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Yeah......the first three or so pages?!? Then I got bored.......


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Ah...

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Sounds promising ;p

I reread all the threads and NOBODY,I mean NOBODY posted about seeing it #1 on the imax (which is why those two fav. action scenes are my favorite) and #2 Christ vs. Superman and #3 the way the kid acted with Supers (they talked about the "relationship/what ifs/the future" but not the way the boy kissed him/interacted with him as in body movements/language.

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I'm sure somebody else brought this up (I didn't read the whole thread either) but ....when Supes threw the huge kryptonian land mass into space at the end did that mean that it would become the planet Krypton all over again?

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Well, I don't know. I certainly didn't get that from it, though...

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I'm sure somebody else brought this up (I didn't read the whole thread either) but ....when Supes threw the huge kryptonian land mass into space at the end did that mean that it would become the planet Krypton all over again?




It might become known as New Krypton, assuming that the writers remember that it is still there.


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Am I the only one smart enough to have thought of this?

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I wondered about the growing hunk of Krypton, too.

It would make a cool plot device for Superman Returns : The Sequel.


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It also had all the crystals of information on it....all of the technology of the 28 known galaxies.

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And it is made of Kryptonite..but Kal - El could make a rocket, create a lead suit for himself, and visit it....


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Maybe this will be how Brainiac is created in movie continuity.

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Maybe this will be how Brainiac is created in movie continuity.



Or how ZOD gets out. Again.

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I liked it.

Everyone who didn't can shut up.


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(Side tangent, 'cuz you guys probably aren't reading this post anyways.....) SOOOOOOOO my parents (gotta love em) raised an interesting question. Any of you guys notice how Superman shadowed Passion of the Christ?!? Okay....at least to be rkmb politically correct, "The Christ like figure."
Note the blatant "savior" references aka when he's in space listening to the cries of humanity on the earth. Also when Superman's being beaten up by the henchmen, to the driving of the kryptonite in his back (like the crown on Christ's head), the way superman collapsed down into the water basically "dying" until he "rises again" being saved by Lois), to the picturesque Christ scene (after saving humanity from the krypty island) when he falls to earth with his hands outspread like he was on a cross as were his feet *watch for it next time, PROMISE!*. Pretty interesting.......and the whole movie seemed to show that even Superman needs a savior. "Whoda thunk it"?!?




I've never seen Passion of the Christ, but I have always found it somewhat ironic that the Christ metaphor is so often ascribed to Superman. As the article Grimm posted on page 6 touches upon, Jerry Siegel(a Jewish man) created Superman as an analogy to Moses. His family sends him away in a capsule to save him, he is taken in by a family of a different culture, lives a double-life because of his past, etc.


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Elisa.......well done, then.

Manimalman......very much agreed.

PJP.....I thought of it twenty-seven years ago during a small, but eventful, fever dream....

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Superman: Dying for Real

    It may be all over for Superman this weekend. Bryan Singer’s “Superman Returns” took the biggest hit day to date from Tuesday to Wednesday this week, losing an astonishing 38.9 percent.

    This was the biggest drop on that day for any film in the top 10. “Superman Returns” has now limped to about $119 million since its opening 10 days ago.

    Now comes the second “Pirates of the Carribean” adventure from Disney. “Pirates 2” will likely swamp “Superman” Friday night, leaving the Man of Steel with a huge problem. With a $300 million bill to pay off, “SR” has lost significant momentum.

    The fascination with “SR” box office is simply because it is probably the most expensive film ever made. “P2” may be hot on its heels, but “SR” — including various people like Nicolas Cage who were paid to go away before shooting even started — looms as a textbook case of a blockbuster gone bad.

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Superman: Dying for Real

    It may be all over for Superman this weekend. Bryan Singer’s “Superman Returns” took the biggest hit day to date from Tuesday to Wednesday this week, losing an astonishing 38.9 percent.

    This was the biggest drop on that day for any film in the top 10. “Superman Returns” has now limped to about $119 million since its opening 10 days ago.

    Now comes the second “Pirates of the Carribean” adventure from Disney. “Pirates 2” will likely swamp “Superman” Friday night, leaving the Man of Steel with a huge problem. With a $300 million bill to pay off, “SR” has lost significant momentum.

    The fascination with “SR” box office is simply because it is probably the most expensive film ever made. “P2” may be hot on its heels, but “SR” — including various people like Nicolas Cage who were paid to go away before shooting even started — looms as a textbook case of a blockbuster gone bad.




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Why are people obsessed with how much Superman made or didn't make at the box office? I couldn't give a gobdamn how much the film cost vs. how much it made in the first three minutes of opening.I enjoyed the movie......that's it.


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It's a disturbing trend for sure. Superman will make at least 200 - 250 million here....then alot more overseas and then tons more in DVD sales......what's the problem?

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I only care to the extent that I want the studio to keep Singer on for another one. If it "only" makes 200-250 million, it won't make back its money, which might alter Warner Bros. plan.


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I only care to the extent that I want the studio to keep Singer on for another one. If it "only" makes 200-250 million, it won't make back its money, which might alter Warner Bros. plan.


they will make their money overseas and in DVDs. This is the first year that I've seen this negative attitude towards movies and people trying to poo poo them to lose money. They figure if they talk badly enough about it it won't do well. People in media overestimate their power to sway.

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I only care to the extent that I want the studio to keep Singer on for another one. If it "only" makes 200-250 million, it won't make back its money, which might alter Warner Bros. plan.


they will make their money overseas and in DVDs. This is the first year that I've seen this negative attitude towards movies and people trying to poo poo them to lose money. They figure if they talk badly enough about it it won't do well. People in media overestimate their power to sway.





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I only care to the extent that I want the studio to keep Singer on for another one. If it "only" makes 200-250 million, it won't make back its money, which might alter Warner Bros. plan.


they will make their money overseas and in DVDs. This is the first year that I've seen this negative attitude towards movies and people trying to poo poo them to lose money. They figure if they talk badly enough about it it won't do well. People in media overestimate their power to sway.




it can't honestly be the first time you've seen that. hell, it's been in discussions here on this board before, just last year, in fact.

like it or not, financial concerns has become a part of film discussions and will likely remain so as long as money continues to be the driving motivation behind studios. fans of films who want to see more of certain types of films want those films to do well so they can see more of them. since money is the deciding factor, that's what people obsess over.

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I only care to the extent that I want the studio to keep Singer on for another one. If it "only" makes 200-250 million, it won't make back its money, which might alter Warner Bros. plan.


they will make their money overseas and in DVDs. This is the first year that I've seen this negative attitude towards movies and people trying to poo poo them to lose money. They figure if they talk badly enough about it it won't do well. People in media overestimate their power to sway.




it can't honestly be the first time you've seen that. hell, it's been in discussions here on this board before, just last year, in fact.

like it or not, financial concerns has become a part of film discussions and will likely remain so as long as money continues to be the driving motivation behind studios. fans of films who want to see more of certain types of films want those films to do well so they can see more of them. since money is the deciding factor, that's what people obsess over.




I don't mean regular conversations about how much money a film will make. This year I am actually seeing people root against the films on a National level the same way a jealous Tigers fan would root against the Yankees.....it's weird.

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I liked it.

Everyone who didn't can shut up.




Where did the camera phones come from? I thought this movie was set in the early 1980's?


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No, its set in the present. I think the conceit was that, not unlike how comic books perpetually "move up" the dates that past events happened (ie, the comic book Superman no longer had his first adventure in 1938 but about ten years ago), Singer is "pretending" that the first two films were set in the late 90s or early part of this century.

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No, its set in the present. I think the conceit was that, not unlike how comic books perpetually "move up" the dates that past events happened (ie, the comic book Superman no longer had his first adventure in 1938 but about ten years ago), Singer is "pretending" that the first two films were set in the late 90s or early part of this century.



so the movies were set after Chris Reeve's horse accident and Margot Kidder's freak out?
That makes no sense, G-man.


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No, its set in the present. I think the conceit was that, not unlike how comic books perpetually "move up" the dates that past events happened (ie, the comic book Superman no longer had his first adventure in 1938 but about ten years ago), Singer is "pretending" that the first two films were set in the late 90s or early part of this century.



so the movies were set after Chris Reeve's horse accident and Margot Kidder's freak out?
That makes no sense, G-man.




Those things never happened in the movie continuity because the Reeve and Kidder of that earth fortified themselves with stem cell laden blood from freshly killed fetuses.

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No, its set in the present. I think the conceit was that, not unlike how comic books perpetually "move up" the dates that past events happened (ie, the comic book Superman no longer had his first adventure in 1938 but about ten years ago), Singer is "pretending" that the first two films were set in the late 90s or early part of this century.



so the movies were set after Chris Reeve's horse accident and Margot Kidder's freak out?
That makes no sense, G-man.




Those things never happened in the movie continuity because the Reeve and Kidder of that earth fortified themselves with stem cell laden blood from freshly killed fetuses.







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That is one of the single most offensive episodes of any television show ever.

I laughed so hard I was crying.

Tears of horror AND laughter.

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That is one of the single most offensive episodes of any television show ever.

I laughed so hard I was crying.

Tears of horror AND laughter.

Bravo.



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