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Big Show vs Kane main event.

Little guido squashed.

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This is the greatest ECW review ever!

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This week, TWO matches ended in a dq! GODDAMMIT VINCE!


Knutreturns said: Spoken like the true Greatest RDCW Champ!

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This week, TWO matches ended in a dq!





Yeah, just like the old ECW!


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Snarf has no idea about ECW.
He seems to think every match was hardcore.

Lets just take a few highlights from Sabu's ECW career:

November 5, 1994--November to Remember: Chris Benoit vs Sabu ended in a NO CONTEST when Benoit "broke" Sabu's neck..

February 17, 1996--CyberSlam: Too Cold Scorpio vs Sabu ended in a DRAW (Too Cold retains the Television title)..

March 8, 1996--Big Ass Extreme Bash: Too Cold Scorpio vs Sabu ended in a 20-minute time limit draw (Too Cold retain the TV title)..

July 19, 1997--Heat Wave: RVD & Sabu & Jerry Lawler vs Tommy Dreamer & Sandman & Rick Rude ended in a NO CONTEST..

September 20, 1997--As Good As It Gets: Sabu vs Sandman ended in a NO CONTEST..

January 31, 1998--Hostile City Showdown: Rob Van Dam & Sabu defeated Axl Rotten & Balls Mahoney by DQ..

May 3, 1998--Wrestlepalooza: Rob Van Dam vs Sabu ended in a 30-minute draw (RVD retains the Television title)..

May 15, 1998--A Matter of Respect: Chris Candido & Sabu vs Lance Storm & Rob Van Dam ended in a NO CONTEST..

October 23, 1999--Re-enter the Sandman: Rob Van Dam vs Sabu ended in a DRAW..

But of course, ECW never had no contests & DQ's now did it!

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Lets also look at The Sandman:

November 13, 1993--November to Remember: Sandman vs Jim Niedhart ended in a Double Disqualification..

June 24, 1994--Hostile City Showdown: Tommy Cairo defeated Sandman by DQ in a "Cane on a Pole" match..

August 13, 1994--Hardcore Heaven: Sandman defeated Tommy Dreamer by DQ in a "Singapore Cane" match..

July 19, 1997--Heat Wave: Rob Van Dam & Sabu & Jerry Lawler vs Tommy Dreamer & Sandman & Rick Rude (NO CONTEST)..

September 20, 1997--As Good As It Gets: Sabu vs Sandman ended in a NO CONTEST..

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Yes. In 7 years, ECW did have a few DQ's. No where in this thread did I claim otherwise. HOWEVER, in one month's time, we've had no less than 3 dq's and one no contest. And since WWE creative is anything but, we will see much, MUCH more. It's not that ECW is having DQ's and and no contests, it's that they're being done in the same half-assed, predictable fashion that's been shoved down our throats by Vince for years.

In contrast, TNA Impact's main event had a no finish for it's main event, but it WORKED. It's clearly setting up some kind of hardcore triple threat between Rhino, Samoa Joe, and Monty Brown (Monster's Ball, perhaps), and didn't feel like an insult to the fans' intelligence.


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Oh, and Nowie, I've actually BEEN to an ECW live show at the ECW arena back in the day. So, I think that makes my opinion valid.



























































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ECW consistantly had DQs & no contests, you just seem to have overlooked that.

The point isnt how many have or havent occured, its about the fact you seem to think its wrong for the WWE backed ECW to have DQs, but see nothing wrong with the
fact ECW as a seperate entity, had DQs.

The matches I listed above are just a small sample of examples I could have posted, but you seem to believe that was the sum total of them.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with DQs, and I really do not see your problem with them other than the fact you just wanna bitch about WWE!

I aint gonna pretend that this new ECW is anywhere near as good as the original, but you have set out to hate this product from day one, and your comments the first week set the tone for any posts you have made since!

The simple fact is, you can moan about many things on the show, like the fact the main event was two WWE guys, but you choose to moan about something that really isnt a big issue!

At least try to complain about something worthwhile!

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Oh, and Nowie, I've actually BEEN to an ECW live show at the ECW arena back in the day. So, I think that makes my opinion valid.




Going to a single show does not make your point valid at all.

Thats like me saying I went to see Guns N Roses when Matt Sorum was the drummer and saying there was never a drummer before him, just cause I didnt see him at that show!

You wear very rose tinted spectacles when it comes to things like this,
ECW was damn good, and there is no doubting that, but to come out & say that DQs is bullshit is quite frankly bullshit in itself!

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I've moaned about that too. We've seen Big Show defend the so-called "ECW" title against Flair, 'Taker, and Kane. Test is ECW. There's a vampire. Sometimes, isn't enough.

In the old ECW, dq's happened, but it would usually be more than just swinging a chair to get it done. Hell, even run-ins right in front of the ref didn't automatically cause a dq!

I wanted this new ECW to be good. The idea of having old faves like the Sandman, Sabu, RVD, Dreamer, and others with new faces like Matt Hardy (why the hell is he still on Smackdown?!? He'd be perfect in ECW!), CM Punk, Shannon Moore, and others tickled me pink. However, what we've been getting is crap.

The fact is, Vince doesn't care about the old ECW quality. He's basically putting a new spin on the same crap he's been feeding us for years. And Paul Heyman, someone I used to have respect for, is letting it happen.

If you want ECW-style, watch TNA and pick up a few of their DVDs while you're at it.


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I've moaned about that too. We've seen Big Show defend the so-called "ECW" title against Flair, 'Taker, and Kane. Test is ECW. There's a vampire. Sometimes, isn't enough.



When did Undertaker get a title shot?
And as for Test, I think he has fitted in amazingly well & is performing better than he has ever done before.
As for the vampire, are you saying ECW never had gimmicks?


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In the old ECW, dq's happened, but it would usually be more than just swinging a chair to get it done. Hell, even run-ins right in front of the ref didn't automatically cause a dq!



And once again, you are forgetting that not all matches were hardcore matches, meaning that DQs could happen for anything.
If it was a hardcore rules match, then run ins & anything else was fair game!
It just so happens that the bulk of matches were hardcore rules, so yes, there were less DQs than WWF & WCW.

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I wanted this new ECW to be good. The idea of having old faves like the Sandman, Sabu, RVD, Dreamer, and others with new faces like Matt Hardy (why the hell is he still on Smackdown?!? He'd be perfect in ECW!), CM Punk, Shannon Moore, and others tickled me pink. However, what we've been getting is crap.



But from the first episode you decided not to watch anymore, or at least thats what you said.


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The fact is, Vince doesn't care about the old ECW quality. He's basically putting a new spin on the same crap he's been feeding us for years. And Paul Heyman, someone I used to have respect for, is letting it happen.

If you want ECW-style, watch TNA and pick up a few of their DVDs while you're at it.



And why would Vince give us the old ECW?
Why would he put out something that ultimately failed, even though he did aid them years ago?
And as for losing respect for Heyman, fuck off!
Heyman has a high paying job and has no say in what Vince does with ECW, so what the fuck do you expect him to do?
Walk away & go broke again?

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Undertaker had a title shot two weeks ago, right before the Great American Bash. And, if Heyman wanted to, I'm sure TNA would give him enough money to make it worth his while to join the booking committee. Instead, he's gone ahead and approved this abomination, and then gone on to make a few bullshit comments, some about the new ECW, and a few cheap shots at TNA.


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Maybe just maybe Heyman doesnt want to go to TNA, and maybe Heyman doesnt like TNA, have you maybe thought about that?

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PLEASE. If TNA ponied up enough cash to make it really worth Heyman's time, he'd go in a HEARTBEAT.


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So far so good! The crowd is awesome!

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Overall, a marked improvement. Hopefully they can continue and get better. Though I will admit that TNA manages to entertain me more in a shorter amount of time. They don't get that 5-7 minute bonus that ECW does, and yet still manage to deliver on a consistent basis.


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So far so good! The crowd is awesome!




In the past the WWE has made themselves look dumber (if that's possible) by ignoring the audience and the fans (many of the same people). The crowd cares enough to go on television and warn the home audience to change the channel. Awesome is the understatement of the century; the crowd is Carlito cool. They're so cool, they'd have to neck Killer Frost to warm up.


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They're so cool, they'd have to neck Killer Frost to warm up.




That's a great line.


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PLEASE. If TNA ponied up enough cash to make it really worth Heyman's time, he'd go in a HEARTBEAT.



And you think thats better than the decision to stay with WWE?
You think he has sold out cause he is doing it for the money yet you believe going to TNA because they offer him more money isnt selling out?

You really have no fucking idea.

Try to at least be consistant in your arguments.

If Heyman really wanted to go to TNA, he wouldnt have accepted the WWE deal.

Heyman like anyone, wants to do whats best for himself.

Christian wanted to go to TNA so money wasnt a big issue, so why would Heyman not have done the same if thats what he really wanted?

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You really have no fucking idea.






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I accept Nowie's opinion, even though I don't agree with it, because as an American, Freedom of Speech is highly valued.



Besides, I caught one of the Sandman's beers at the ECW Arena. Top that, BITCH!


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Top that, BITCH!



Ok!
I have had sex with a woman!
I also have hair!



































Oh, and if we are just talking about wrestling, I think having a training session with the son of the British Bulldog tops owning a beer can!

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Touche. Well played, my belligerent cousin from across the pond. Well played...


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No, thank you.


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