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Thicker than flies on dogshit. They can't be that strapped for cash. Are the big publishers paying a premium now for writers from other formats to attract new readers?


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Eh? Specific reference please.

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Greg Rucka,Allan Heinberg,Jodi Picoult,Bob Gale,Brad Meltzer & so on.These people were established authors & screenwriters for TV & Movies & have now(well Rucka,Gale & Meltzer have been around a little longer in the comics biz)been tapped by DC & Marvel to write comics.I think mostly to stem the tide of fanboys who write comics for their own wanking pleasure & to give some serious cred to comics themselves.


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Oh......OH!

Yeah. Forgot for a sec. I remember how all the Wondy feminists were so excited to have Heinberg on the book, now they're crying in jubilation that he's been thrown off of it. Total retards.

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I think it is a convergence of a couple of factors:

1. A lot of "mainstream" writers are out there now that grew up with the notion that comic books aren't just crap for kids and think it'd be fun to write an adventure or two of their favorite characters;
2. DC and Marvel think its cost effective to throw money at these guys.
3. Like it or not, starting with (ugh) Jeph "Commando" Loeb, established authors/screenwriters are selling.

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and of course, they're all fanboys. most important.

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Entirely based on my ignorance of the business but I wonder if some of it is to help sell the various licenses in other venues. (movies, cartoons & little plastic doodads) DC & Marvel can say, "hey this guy who writes real books is also writing this character you never heard of for us".


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All this time, thinking I should develop talent before I submit my work to DC or Marvel.

Now I realise I should have become famous instead ...

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Entirely based on my ignorance of the business but I wonder if some of it is to help sell the various licenses in other venues. (movies, cartoons & little plastic doodads) DC & Marvel can say, "hey this guy who writes real books is also writing this character you never heard of for us".




I think it's all to get mainstream attention. If you can have a New York Times bestselling author, famous film director, or writer or a cult hit or even mainstream hit TV show, you have a better chance of getting a write up in newspapers, magazines, and possibly a mention on TV news. Plus, there's the probability that that person's fanbase will follow him/her to the book, increasing sales.


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All this time, thinking I should develop talent before I submit my work to DC or Marvel.

Now I realise I should have become famous instead ...




However, DC and Marvel would probably argue, not completely without merit, that these writers have proven they have talent by virtue of their resumes.

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comics themselves are much more mainstream than they were just a few short years ago. they get attention in several major magazines such as time and entertainment weekly. not to mention the barrage of genre magazines that regularly cover comics and comic related movies, tv shows, and such.

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Still, its funny that Time Magazine seems to have dropped their 10 Best Graphic Novels List of [year] as of two years ago, and that the titles were all obscure indie collections.

There is also Josh "Buffy" Whelan on Astonishing X-men, lest we forget, who followed the Matrix model of taking a comic book, removing the spandex, and putting it on film.

I understand why the publishers do it: I just had trouble with why the writers do it. But if they are fan boys then this makes immediate sense.


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I understand why the publishers do it: I just had trouble with why the writers do it. But if they are fan boys then this makes immediate sense.




Yep. They're all fan boys. Whedon, for example, has pretty much said large chunks of "Buffy" were influenced by the Claremont/Byrne issues of X-mean (Dark Willow being one obvious example).

And look at the fanboys who liked "Rising Stars" so much they ripped it off to create "Heroes"

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if you read the full X-Men/Lost column in the link I provided last week, you'd note that Steven Grant mentions in it that Hollywood is full of fanboys these days.

The Geeks have taken over!

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from Ron Perlman's Newsarama interview:

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RP: Well, Frank Darabont is a really close friend of Guillermo’s and they share a boyish passion for comic books. The first time I ever met Frank was in a comic book store here on Melrose in Los Angeles. In aisle three we had a long, wonderful meeting and he told me I had to read League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and everything that Alan Moore wrote. Then Watchmen came up because [Hellboy producers] Larry Gordon and Lloyd Levin have the rights to make the film version of that. They were pushing for me to play the Comedian.





Frank Darabont directed The Green Mile, btw. . .

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=104931

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And the Shawshank Redemption, right?

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I think so, yeah.


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