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 Originally Posted By: Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
i'm watching Invasion of Time. one problem i have with the current series is that they don't show the inside of the Tardis beyond the control room.I think the control room looks terrific, and they did show once that wardrobe which was neat, but I want to see massive warehouses, workshops, the infirmary, a pool, bedrooms inside the Tardis. It just makes the bigger on the insider element neater. especially with artwork and statues the Doctor has collected. it makes him seem more wonderful and special than a guy travelling alone with a giant room, because he has this whole world with him. So he offers his companions this great world to live in.


Fuck yes! Exactly!! I love Invasion of Time exactly for that reason alone. The BBC is so worried about making everything look so CGI and perfect, that they're afraid they would have to spend money on creating new interior shots of the TARDIS. Ridiculous! I'd love if they did what they did in Invasion...use interior shots of real places!

And yeah, I love the "bath" (olympic-sized swimming pool)...

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that actually does clear things up for me. especially using Rememberance (i've seen clips on youtube but not the whole episode)to explain the backward state that Hartnell encountered.
I suppose the time travel aspect of the series leads to confusion at times and your brief summary is probably the clearest it'll get.
thanks.

i really don't get the Daleks. They're good, but not great. I really see no difference between them and the Cybermen. I like them but don't get the "mania" and popularity.
This Master restitution thing was the TV movie where he was executed on Skarro and the Doctor was running errands for them by taking his remains, right?


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The Master however is a great and underused villain. Even though Delgado died they shouldn't have scrapped the character for so long, and they shouldn't have had Delgado be his final natural incarnation. I think they should've had a new Master for every one or two new Doctors. He should be a full time lord, not some snake taking over bodies, and he should have some purpose other than opposing the Doctor. Something where they can have him be around, but not so big a threat that he has to die to save the world.
Every story I've seen with him has been good (even the tv movie worked). Of all the Doctor's enemies the Master has a personal feel to him.


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i'm watching Invasion of Time. one problem i have with the current series is that they don't show the inside of the Tardis beyond the control room.I think the control room looks terrific, and they did show once that wardrobe which was neat, but I want to see massive warehouses, workshops, the infirmary, a pool, bedrooms inside the Tardis. It just makes the bigger on the insider element neater. especially with artwork and statues the Doctor has collected. it makes him seem more wonderful and special than a guy travelling alone with a giant room, because he has this whole world with him. So he offers his companions this great world to live in.


Fuck yes! Exactly!! I love Invasion of Time exactly for that reason alone. The BBC is so worried about making everything look so CGI and perfect, that they're afraid they would have to spend money on creating new interior shots of the TARDIS. Ridiculous! I'd love if they did what they did in Invasion...use interior shots of real places!

And yeah, I love the "bath" (olympic-sized swimming pool)...

I really like the coral look of the modern Tardis and would like that to be extended throughout. I get the feeling that it's Davies. I don't have the hate for him some fans do, I think he's contributed a lot and deserves credit for the show coming back, but he has flaws. He himself admitted to this in one of the confidentials when talking about Moffet. He said Moffet thinks more as a writer than a producer. So Davies thinks how much it'll cost before he writes an idea into a script, but Moffet just writes the good ideas. Davies admitted that this limits him. I have a feeling the Tardis interiors aren't shown for budget reasons, and I have a feeling Moffet being at the helm will be great for these little touches.


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 Originally Posted By: Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
that actually does clear things up for me. especially using Rememberance (i've seen clips on youtube but not the whole episode)to explain the backward state that Hartnell encountered.
I suppose the time travel aspect of the series leads to confusion at times and your brief summary is probably the clearest it'll get.
thanks.


I'm certain there are more detailed sites out there that can do a better, more "researched" job. Honestly, though, due to the real-world fact that no one could have foreseen Doctor Who lasting as long as it has, certain aspects of continuity will never actually gel. It's best not to scrutinize too hard, really.

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i really don't get the Daleks. They're good, but not great. I really see no difference between them and the Cybermen. I like them but don't get the "mania" and popularity.


Yep Couldn't agree more. The Daleks have always been "Meh" to me. Hand on my heart, the only three Dalek stories that I can watch more than once are Genesis of the Daleks, Dalek, and The Stolen Earth/Journey's End. For some reason, it seems to me that their earlier comparison with Nazis is what stimulated the cultural passion for them with UK fans. The rest of the world just sees them as very loud, psychotic, questionable robot-things. I've always liked the (original) Cybermen better, anyway.

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This Master restitution thing was the TV movie where he was executed on Skarro and the Doctor was running errands for them by taking his remains, right?


Yeah, and the title of the act and all comes from the novelization, anyway. So, it's up to you to decide whether it applies or not. It works for me, therefore I use it. That's the beauty about certain aspects of Doctor Who in multiple media (audios, novels, comic strips, etc). It's up to the fan to decide what's canon and what's not.

BTW, if you ever want to get into the 8th Doctor, and can get into audio plays, I suggest Big Finish audios. This series of full-scale audio adventures pretty much defines Paul McGann's Doctor beyond his only TV Movie outing. Also, Doctor's 5, 6, & 7 (plus companions) have their own ongoing audio "unseen" adventures. You should check out the site.

Of course, you still have a lot of the tv episodes to go first, I'd imagine. Lucky bastard...

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The Master however is a great and underused villain. Even though Delgado died they shouldn't have scrapped the character for so long, and they shouldn't have had Delgado be his final natural incarnation. I think they should've had a new Master for every one or two new Doctors. He should be a full time lord, not some snake taking over bodies, and he should have some purpose other than opposing the Doctor. Something where they can have him be around, but not so big a threat that he has to die to save the world.
Every story I've seen with him has been good (even the tv movie worked). Of all the Doctor's enemies the Master has a personal feel to him.


The Master has always been his Moriarty. And I agree, I love the Master. It's all the fun of having a character as versatile and fulfilling as The Doctor....but a bit evil.

I wish Derek Jacobi had more screen time. I liked Simm just fine for what he was (the "manic" incarnation). But, Jacobi's had a very Roger Delgado quality to him...

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this is great. David Tennant calls in to a radio show to defend the Tardis in a debate of Tardis vs. Enterprise.


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I've gone through COlin Baker's run and seen most of it. I ended up deleting a lot because of space before I actually realized i enjoyed them. I liked his first year. the 45 minute episodes, his performance, and the lovely Peri made it fun for me.
I have tons of Tom Baker left to watch. I think I've gone through a little more than half, not really sure. It takes about a day to download the 8 GB season packs. I'm enjoying his stuff.
I'm interested in downloading Mccoy but can't find him on bittorrent. I saw a 12GB torrent last year but couldn't get it because I had an older computer.

Are Davison, Pertwee, Troughton, and Hartnell any good? Davison just looks like such a putz, but I know he's Tennant's favorite and Tennant and some of his performance is based on Davison. And since Tennant is my favorite, that gives me pause.

And let me just add that Peri is hot. She makes Rose look like a pile of dog shit. I know it's sexist and all, but I love her skimpy outfits and that she would let Colin get a few feet ahead so she'd have to run/bounce to catch up.


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The Daleks have always been "Meh" to me. Hand on my heart, the only three Dalek stories that I can watch more than once are Genesis of the Daleks, Dalek, and The Stolen Earth/Journey's End. For some reason, it seems to me that their earlier comparison with Nazis is what stimulated the cultural passion for them with UK fans. The rest of the world just sees them as very loud, psychotic, questionable robot-things. I've always liked the (original) Cybermen better, anyway.


One analysis I read was that Daleks were especially frightening to British kids (remember, it was originally a children's show) because they had no faces. Nothing that could be resolved into a face, an expression, anything. For some reason, that seems to be especially disturbing to many on an instinctual level.

Plus, they were the only race other than the Time Lords who could meet the Doctor on his own terms: they had time travel too. The 12-part story "The Chase" was a huge hit with the original fans because there was literally no place and no time for the Doctor and his companions to go in hopes of escaping their pursuers.

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The Daleks have always been "Meh" to me. Hand on my heart, the only three Dalek stories that I can watch more than once are Genesis of the Daleks, Dalek, and The Stolen Earth/Journey's End. For some reason, it seems to me that their earlier comparison with Nazis is what stimulated the cultural passion for them with UK fans. The rest of the world just sees them as very loud, psychotic, questionable robot-things. I've always liked the (original) Cybermen better, anyway.


One analysis I read was that Daleks were especially frightening to British kids (remember, it was originally a children's show) because they had no faces. Nothing that could be resolved into a face, an expression, anything. For some reason, that seems to be especially disturbing to many on an instinctual level.


I can understand that. But, coming from a US mindset, they never bothered me. Their voices, though, were threatening to the point of grinding my nerves. The shouting everything has at least been marginalized and perfected by Nick Briggs in the current series.

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Plus, they were the only race other than the Time Lords who could meet the Doctor on his own terms: they had time travel too. The 12-part story "The Chase" was a huge hit with the original fans because there was literally no place and no time for the Doctor and his companions to go in hopes of escaping their pursuers.


Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get all that. I've seen parts of The Chase. I've been watching Doctor Who for thirty-years. However, the three I listed are the only Dalek stories I sincerely enjoyed beyond The Doctor himself...

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http://nzdwfc.tetrap.com/archive/tsv43/onediscussion.html
interesting read. roundtable talk in 1995 with writers discussing the classic series. Steven Moffet is one of the writers and his views on the series are interesting now that he's taking over.


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Don't know if this is old news but the Sun(a thick as shit) newspaper today, is reporting that McCann will be shown in flashback sequences for one of the Dr Who specials next year!

The story will be dealing with the Time War and McCann will be seen getting tortured and having his head shaved!


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I'm missing something here...who's McCann?




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I'm missing something here...who's McCann?


Paul McGann, the 8th incarnation of The Doctor. The one before Christopher Eccleston, and the incarnation that supposedly fought in The Time War...







Not that I believe it's going to happen, of course...

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You don't believe the timewar happened?


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There's proof, Pro! Those Thals were killed, Pro! Millions of them in Dalek concentration camps!


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The Thals had it coming! Dirty disco-hippies!







And while I believe in The Time War dear Batty, I do not believe The Sun...

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And while I believe in The Time War dear Batty, I do not believe The Sun...


Just checking you got you priorities right!


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