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 Originally Posted By: Rob Kamphausen
it was a question for generals, not the likes of you


Yeah, but he's said time and time again (Nolan, that is) that he didn't think about anythiYeah, but Nolan has stated many times that he doesn't plan on future Bat movies when working on one. So, to reiterate what Mxy wrote, No.


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 Originally Posted By: Prometheus
Keanu Reeves is a suck actor, and has been in a lot of movies. Is it because he has or hasn't found the right director?


obviously you havent seen Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.

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 Originally Posted By: Prometheus
Keanu Reeves is a suck actor, and has been in a lot of movies. Is it because he has or hasn't found the right director?


See Keanu is only good in movies where he really doesn't have a ton of dialog, or plays a stoner.

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 Originally Posted By: rex
The writing made the character, not the actor. He added absolutely nothing. He played a suicidal loser. That's what he was in real life. Anyone can replace him.


The writing made the character, but the actor made the performance. By your logic Adam Sandler could be the Joker. I highly doubt he's got the acting ability to completely immerse himself in the role like Ledger did.

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Ledger played himself. There's no skill in playing yourself.


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That's what rex prefers to use a sock.


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That makes absolutely no sense.


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I think if Nolan had planned to do DKR next he would have set the second movie a few years after the first one, when The Bat-Man is an established crimefighter that has been fighting the Joker and other bat-rogues for a while. DK, I think, still counts as a movie about Bat's beginnings. To jump from that to the end of his career would be a little abrupt.

Now, he might still do DKR next if he thinks it's a good idea, but I don't think he planned that from the beginning.


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 Originally Posted By: rex
That makes absolutely no sense.


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 Originally Posted By: rex
Ledger played himself. There's no skill in playing yourself.


Now you're just arguing for the attention, rex. Ledger played "himself"? As The Joker? He played himself? Really? Prove that. Show me some clips or something that gives an example of Ledger running around being a psycho like the character he played in TDK. Otherwise, you're just being illogical, reactionary, jealous and bitter about the attention he's gotten. Like you are with everyone that gets any attention...

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I already explained it. Maybe if you guys stopped feeling sorry for him because he killed himself you would get it.


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 Originally Posted By: Jeremy
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The writing made the character, not the actor. He added absolutely nothing. He played a suicidal loser. That's what he was in real life. Anyone can replace him.


The writing made the character, but the actor made the performance. By your logic Adam Sandler could be the Joker. I highly doubt he's got the acting ability to completely immerse himself in the role like Ledger did.



what track record did Ledger have before this? i would hazard to guess Sandler has put together better performances than Ledger pre-Joker. Look I know how much 10 Things I Hate About You meant to you man, but honestly it wasnt that good.

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rumor from TIFF has depp as the riddler.


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 Originally Posted By: Black Machismo
rumor from TIFF has depp as the riddler.


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 Originally Posted By: britneyspearsatemyshorts
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Acting is very different to wrestling.
In wrestling the focus would be on Flair, in a movie the focus was on Ledger.




then you no shite about wrestling, John Cena is the focus of his match yet he cant make a turd look great like Flair, Hulk Hogan is the focus of his matches yet he cant/wont make a turd wrestler look great. The list can go on and on. You can polish a turd and make it look great as evidenced by Ledger. His acting has always been meh.


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Oh, and from what Nolan says, a lot of the stuff Ledger did was Ledgers own ideas, and allowed him to improvise!


as if it would be great for his career to say that the performance of this dead guy was owed all to himself, it's called being gracious after a death!

I'm sorry man, but you are talking bollocks.
With Cena and Flair being in a match, they are in the match "together", Nolan and Ledger are not in the movie together.
I have seen matches where a guy like Flair or Taker or whoever has put a lesser talent over and made them look great.
I have also seen matches where even the greatest wrestlers in the world could not make someone look good.

No director can make a totally shit actor look great, because acting is all about delivery, something you obviously know shite about!

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 Originally Posted By: Nowhereman
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Acting is very different to wrestling.
In wrestling the focus would be on Flair, in a movie the focus was on Ledger.




then you no shite about wrestling, John Cena is the focus of his match yet he cant make a turd look great like Flair, Hulk Hogan is the focus of his matches yet he cant/wont make a turd wrestler look great. The list can go on and on. You can polish a turd and make it look great as evidenced by Ledger. His acting has always been meh.


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Oh, and from what Nolan says, a lot of the stuff Ledger did was Ledgers own ideas, and allowed him to improvise!


as if it would be great for his career to say that the performance of this dead guy was owed all to himself, it's called being gracious after a death!

I'm sorry man, but you are talking bollocks.
With Cena and Flair being in a match, they are in the match "together", Nolan and Ledger are not in the movie together.
I have seen matches where a guy like Flair or Taker or whoever has put a lesser talent over and made them look great.
I have also seen matches where even the greatest wrestlers in the world could not make someone look good.

No director can make a totally shit actor look great, because acting is all about delivery, something you obviously know shite about!



Again your talking out of your ass if Flair is in match with someone he is directing it, not the other guy. He does tell a guy what move will look good, what to sell ect. That's what a director does. You have yet to point to any great acting done by Ledger before or since, thus proving my point!

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 Originally Posted By: Black Machismo
rumor from TIFF has depp as the riddler.


Don't think it'll happen. Aside from the fact that Depp's a horrible choice for that particular character, his friendship with Tim Burton would make him a poor choice to a director and studio that are trying to avoid the previous franchise. Guy Pearce has stated an interest in joining the Batman franchise based on HIS friendship with Nolan, and I think he'd be a decent (at worst) choice to play the role.

PS: Rumblings have Cher as an "older, more experienced" Catwoman. I say that's the first nail in the franchise's coffin if true.


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y'know, guys, this thread isn't that long


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thats what she said!

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heh.


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I think the Catwoman rumor is just something Cher's people are spreading to keep her name in the paper. Putting aside the fact she's in her sixties now she doesn't seem like the type of actor Nolan would put in a film.

As mentioned before, Nolan seems to favor either actors who are talented newcomers (Bale, Ledger, Eckhert) or veteran character actors (Oldman, Freeman, Caine, Wilkinson), either of which will vanish into the role. Cher is neither. She's a "celebrity."

If anything, I'd see Nolan going back Carrie Ann Moss (from Nolan's "Memento" and, of course, "the Matrix" films) if he wanted an "older more experienced" actress.

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 Originally Posted By: Rob Kamphausen
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heh.



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the thing about the cher/catwoman rumor is I could see Nolan going that way, in small towns there is always some crazy old woman that everyone refers to as the catwoman because of her house being full of cats, and maybe he is working a origin in that way....

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and lets face it, if a director can make heath ledger look good as an actor he could do the same with cher....

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 Originally Posted By: britneyspearsatemyshorts


Just because Obama is half-black and half-white doesn't mean that he can step into every role Frank Gorshin played.

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 Originally Posted By: britneyspearsatemyshorts
and lets face it, if a director can make heath ledger look good as an actor he could do the same with cher....


He's a director, not a miracle worker.


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yeah but even Cher had better acting chops than Ledger if you take out his Joker role.

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I don't get it. Who is that guy?

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Chris Haaaaaansen.


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from "To Catch A Predator." a show about pederasts.


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I guess we should be glad that P didn't know who he was. Though I'm guessing most of the insurgents would have recognized him.

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