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This is a rare time I'm glad to see the Republicans in Congress stand up against something.


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By DANIEL W. REILLY & PATRICK O'CONNOR | 9/23/08 1:51 PM EDT


There was a time when Dick Cheney could turn back a Republican revolt on Capitol Hill.

That time is gone.

House Republicans rose up en masse against their vice president on Tuesday morning to blast an administration proposal that would grant Treasury historic authority to start buying hundreds of billions of dollars in devalued mortgage-related assets, according to members present.



The lines to speak were long, the questions many and sentiment in the Cannon Caucus Room Tuesday swayed heavily against the Treasury proposal.

Afterward, Texas Rep. Joe Barton took the unusual step of telling reporters that he had politely given Cheney a piece of his mind – the sort of dissent Republicans considered unthinkable during much of the Bush administration's reign.

A full-throated Republican revolt could create huge problems for the administration and congressional Democrats scrambling to assemble a package to reassure jittery markets. It could also preserve the Republicans’ options after the fact – if the bailout doesn’t work or proves deeply unpopular with voters, they can say they opposed it.


Some Republicans at Tuesday’s meeting suggested Cheney, White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten and economic policy adviser Keith Hennessey didn’t help their case.

“They were in worse shape when they left than when they came in,” said one lawmaker who was there. “These were the wrong guys…The problem is that they’ve used up a lot of good will.”


Of course though the GOP proposal will probably just be more tax cuts for the rich and a back door way to save CEO bonuses or something... But it's good to see that Bush/Cheney have no credibility anymore even in their own party and now it's every Republican for himself.

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Kind of like the way the Dems turned on the Clintons when the Obamassiah was rising right?

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 Originally Posted By: britneyspearsatemyshorts
Kind of like the way the Dems turned on the Clintons when the Obamassiah was rising right?


All the Democrats I know turned on Clinton a long long time ago. Around the time it was time to vote on Iraq and onward.

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Yeah, whomod, I'm no Clinton fan but for someone who had "all the Democrats" turn on her back in 2003, she did pretty good in the DNC primaries.

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those were 18 million racists that voted for her g-man, try to keep up....

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I hate to say, but, I agree that the Clintons were just as popular...if not more...while/after Hillary was running. She got this close to securing the nomination, and I imagine we'll see her again (unfortunately). Meanwhile, Bush/Cheney & Co. have used up every last bit of goodwill from either side, save the more hardline extremists. It just doesn't compare...

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i dont think the opinion of a terrorist sympathizer like yourself carries much weight though.

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 Originally Posted By: britneyspearsatemyshorts
those were 18 million racists that voted for her g-man, try to keep up....


I never got that from anyone personally but there were others that said they had Obama supporters call them racist. The funniest was a black friend who was still steaming mad that he got called a racist for not supporting Obama. Whomod talking like Rush Limbaugh Jr. was about as bad as it got for me though.


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Is that a NAZI salute?

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 Originally Posted By: britneyspearsatemyshorts
i dont think the opinion of a terrorist sympathizer like yourself carries much weight though.

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CBS: Obama May Not Return to D.C. for Bailout Vote.

  • Although Barack Obama argues that the financial meltdown is an “emergency situation”, he said today that he may remain on the campaign trail, rather than returning to the Capitol, to vote on the $700 billion plan


Gee, if that happens he won't even be able to vote "present."

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CBS: Obama May Not Return to D.C. for Bailout Vote.

  • Although Barack Obama argues that the financial meltdown is an “emergency situation”, he said today that he may remain on the campaign trail, rather than returning to the Capitol, to vote on the $700 billion plan


Gee, if that happens he won't even be able to vote "present."


I think that would be a big mistake on his part if he skips this vote.


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Now that CBS gave him the heads up, I'm sure he'll make it.

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
Now that CBS gave him the heads up, I'm sure he'll make it.


G-man, isn't that taking the conspiracy thing a wee bit to far?


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 Originally Posted By: britneyspearsatemyshorts
i dont think the opinion of a terrorist sympathizer like yourself carries much weight though.


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 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
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Now that CBS gave him the heads up, I'm sure he'll make it.


G-man, isn't that taking the conspiracy thing a wee bit to far?


I'm not saying that CBS called up the Obama camp and said "hey, we're going to run this story, better get back there." I'm saying that, because CBS ran a proactive story, rather than a story after the vote, Obama is aware that there may be political fallout.

I will, say, however that I would not be surprised to see CBS wait until after the vote to do a similar story about McCain if the facts were reversed.

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Yes would have been the correct answer G-man.


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 Originally Posted By: Prometheus
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i dont think the opinion of a terrorist sympathizer like yourself carries much weight though.





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You're awfully negative lately. Where have all the cowboys gone?

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negative? by not supporting terrorism? is this bizarro world?

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No...THIS IS SPINAL TAP!

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Is that a NAZI salute?




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McCain Suspends Campaign to Help With Bailout: GOP candidate calls on Obama to join him in suspending campaign so both can work with Congress to hammer out bailout plan; asks that debate be postponed.

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Obama is bitching and moaning about mccain putting the economy over the debate on friday.



I guess obama needs to tell the nation that he hopes to change the economy instead of actually doing it.


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 Originally Posted By: rex
Obama is bitching and moaning about mccain putting the economy over the debate on friday. I guess obama needs to tell the nation that he hopes to change the economy instead of actually doing it.


Friday's debate is supposed to be about foreign policy, not domestic policy, so Obama wouldn't even be able to do that.

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It's to bad McCain had to play things this way. If he had really wanted to work in a bipartisan matter on this issue, he should have tried working something out with Obama instead of putting a show on. McCain just made it harder to get something passed.


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That's the exact opposite of what really happened. Your ignorance is mind blowing.


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 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
It's to bad McCain had to play things this way. If he had really wanted to work in a bipartisan matter on this issue, he should have tried working something out with Obama instead of putting a show on. McCain just made it harder to get something passed.
you mean like last Monday when we needed our politicians to keep us calm and say we would figure this out, but Obama kept saying how the world is going to end? They both should have done this a week ago. My dog was right about Obama.

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 Originally Posted By: rex
That's the exact opposite of what really happened. Your ignorance is mind blowing.


Amuse me & tell me the story of "what really happened".


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 Originally Posted By: PJP
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It's to bad McCain had to play things this way. If he had really wanted to work in a bipartisan matter on this issue, he should have tried working something out with Obama instead of putting a show on. McCain just made it harder to get something passed.
you mean like last Monday when we needed our politicians to keep us calm and say we would figure this out, but Obama kept saying how the world is going to end? They both should have done this a week ago. My dog was right about Obama.


Was it that Monday or the one before it where McCain said the fundamentals of the economy were strong. Let me know what he settles on eventually.


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the fundamentals are strong, the majority of Americans are hard workers, willing to sacrifice to get this country on its feet. i of course wouldn't expect a country hating liberal to understand that.

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welcome to two weeks ago Mott.

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 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
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That's the exact opposite of what really happened. Your ignorance is mind blowing.


Amuse me & tell me the story of "what really happened".



The exact opposite of what you said. obama wants to go tell everyone his normal hope and change commie bullshit and mccain wants to actually do something about the economy.

Its ok if you still don't get it. I wouldn't expect someone of your intelligence to understand something like that.


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 Originally Posted By: britneyspearsatemyshorts
the fundamentals are strong, the majority of Americans are hard workers, willing to sacrifice to get this country on its feet. i of course wouldn't expect a country hating liberal to understand that.


Yeah I see your love for America present in all your posts here.

I forgot McCain reinterpeted what the fundamentals were. Judging from the slide he's taking in the polls nobody bought it.


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Some things bare repeating... besides you were getting too serious. Lighten up!


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 Originally Posted By: rex
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That's the exact opposite of what really happened. Your ignorance is mind blowing.


Amuse me & tell me the story of "what really happened".



The exact opposite of what you said. obama wants to go tell everyone his normal hope and change commie bullshit and mccain wants to actually do something about the economy.

Its ok if you still don't get it. I wouldn't expect someone of your intelligence to understand something like that.


Don't you think both really want to do something about the economy? I read how McCain went about things today. If his real concern had been getting this legislation worked out he would have coordinated something with Obama. It's not a case of McCain solving this problem but working with others to solve it. He made that harder today.


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