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Going to see the first showing if this on Friday.
I will provide spoilers for those of you in the past!

I've got a comp. day, so I'm taking it Friday to catch a matinée and avoid the horrible crowds.

thats the basic idea for me. off this week and next, so going at the 12:30pm showing when most cunts are at work!

going late friday night. IMAX of course...

Saw it this morning at a press showing!

Come on. Come on. Ask me.

I wanna do a long, pseudo-intellectual and pretentious post about how the movie's long, pseudo-intellectual and pretentious. And silly looking.

how was it?

How well hung is Doctor Manhattan?

I think he's bigger than in the comic. They probably put the standard Michelangelo/David penis and then when the actor saw it he was like "Hey! What? No! Make it bigger! Come on! Please."

Good: Some bits with Rorschach in the jail. Dan Dreiberg is spot on. GREAT soundtrack choices. The ending makes as much if not more sense than the one in the comic, for what it's worth (I knew they changed it but I avoided reading the specifics til now). Most of the changes are for the better.

I also liked Hollis Mason (he's a little more Clint Eastwood-ish than in the comic), but he only shows up for like three minutes.

Bad: I didn't like The Comedian. Dr. Manhattan's voice can be annoying. Ozymandias, an otherwise great actor, talks like a Smallville villain from the beginning. Tooooo muuuuuuch sloooooow motionnnnnnnn. I hate Zack Snyder's directing style. Everything's got to be big and loud and dramatic, which makes the plot and the dialogue seem silly. The script is great but instead of being so stylized, it could have used some of the realism from Dark Knight. This dude should be directing Youngblood, not Watchmen. In fact, sign me up for that. Especially if he includes Obama.

ALSO, the incidental music! ARRGHH! I think the movie would be 40% better (Hollywood would be 40% better) if they didn't have crappy disposable instrumental music drowning any chance of an atmosphere.

All the dark, violent and sexy parts are there (amplified), but there's little in between. That's not entirely true, but I like the way it sounds. But it IS mostly true. Rorschach's child kidnapper scene, for example, is shown almost completely out of context, making it pretty much pointless. I knew what was going on and what the importance of the scene was because I've read the comic, but for most people it's just gonna be like "lookitme im so dark!".

I felt like that for most of the movie. Dan and Laurie are pretty relateable, but I don't think people are gonna give a shit for any of the others. I'm not a very good judge of what people like, but I think this is gonna bomb. Hopefully I'm wrong.

I probably won't be watching this again until the director's cut comes out.

i overheard this group of kids in the city talking about how they couldn't wait to see watchmen. their number one reason is because they wanted to see who would win in the fight between batman (night owl) and iron man (ala robert downey, the comedian)

oh, and clearly, it'd be batman

rob, you stay away from those city kids. theyre nothing but trouble.

no no, basams. the kids are alright!

What the fuck does The Comedian have to do with Iron Man?
They are fuck all alike!

in the commercial clips that they've seen, night owl looks like batman, and the comedian looks like robert downey jr. so, they think they're seeing batman vs. iron man.

Night Owl I can understand as his look was at least partially based on Batman in the comics (although Blue Beetle was the primary basis), but fer fucksake, the Comedian comparison is almost as retarded as Snarf or Pariah!

i can kinda see it, he does look like robert downey. plus, if you're only seeing a flash image for like 3 seconds, and its another comic book movie...

i am not un-pariahing them, but i will not snarf them.

In regards to the actors themselves, that's true. The actor who plays the Comedian is the guy that played Denny on "Grey's Anatomy." For most of his original run on "Grey's" my wife thought it WAS Robert Downey, Jr., doing a cameo (not unlike his limited run on "Ally McBeal.")

Well just cause he looks a bit like Downey Jr in that pic doesnt exactly make it seem like Comedian is anything like Iron Man.
Those kids are gay!

Whats next, comparing him to Monica Lewinsky cause he has a cigar?

New York Post:

• Four Stars.
  
  Director Zack Snyder's cerebral, scintillating follow-up to "300" seems, to even a weary filmgoer's eye, as fresh and magnificent in sound and vision as "2001" must have seemed in 1968, yet in its eagerness to argue with itself, it resembles "A Clockwork Orange." Like those Stanley Kubrick films - it is also in part a parody of "Dr. Strangelove" - it transforms each moment into a tableau with great, uncompromising concentration. The effect is an almost airless gloom, but the film is also exhilarating in breadth and depth.
  
  There is more going on in the spectacular opening-credits sequence than in the three "Spider-Man" flicks combined. "Watchmen" author Alan Moore (who considers the film a bastard stepchild and demanded not to be mentioned in those credits) possesses a superpower denied nearly all of his competitors: irony. A yellow smiley face stained with blood is his Bat logo.

I don't think the ironic tone came through very well. It does make a huge difference if audiences think otherwise, tho.

‘Watchmen’ is the best superhero film ever | 3 ½ stars

• “Watchmen” is a thinking person’s comic-book movie, deconstructing the super-hero while balancing fantastic eye candy with complex philosophical musings — many of which don’t reveal themselves until hours or days after you’ve left the theater.
  
  It’s visually and intellectually hot and emotionally cool. Many of my fellow reviewers see this as a near-fatal flaw. I would remind them that precisely the same thing can be said of “Citizen Kane,” which they often cite as the best American movie ever made.
  
  Like Orson Welles, Snyder and screenwriters David Hayter and Alex Tse (and Moore and Gibbons before them, of course) compensate for that coolness with the brilliance of their visuals and storytelling.
  
  Two or three sequences hold up with some of the best ever committed to celluloid, and despite the gnarliness of its narrative — thick with flashbacks and digressions — “Watchmen” makes perfect sense.
  
  But answers come slowly.

It does seem as if some negative reviews are starting come in, mostly from people who seem unhappy that the film isn't as linear or light-hearted as the typical comic book movie and perhaps too faithful to the source.

That's a valid concern. There are a lot of scenes that I think they only included to pay tribute to the comic, like the one in Rorschach's origin I mentioned above, when they coulda easily been replaced with something more functional to the plot. Dr. Manhattan's awareness of his future plays a very small role in the story of the film (the "I'm sorry, I'm informing Laurie 30 seconds ago" scene isn't there), but it's mentioned constantly, a lot more than in the comic. Again, I know what the point is, but I'm not sure if it'll come through to most of the audience.

I gotta say, though, nothing can prepare you for how cool Dr. Manhattan in Vietnam is.

Here's a very negative review from the Hollywood Reporter that makes some good points:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0409459/board/nest/131634300

And this one's just brutal:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0409459/board/nest/131635670

damn thats brutal.(mxy you fuck)

I almost hope this movie's great but, in a strange way, I also almost hope it doesn't perform very well at the box office.

If it's a big enough hit they'll try to make an unsourced sequel or prequel ("Watchmen Origins: Rorshach"?). It'll also convince WB that every superhero movie has to be at least as dark and gritty as Watchmen and/or TDK even if its lighter source material like "Shazam" or even "Superman".

WB is already is thinking that way after the success after Dark Knight.From what I heard they already think the next Superman movie should be "grim and gritty".
Welcome back 1986,I missed ya.

Yeah, that's my point. A really successful WM movie will just cement that thinking.

They did this before. When the 1989 Batman was a big hit they did a "Flash" TV show that was as much like Burton's Batman as they could make it: rubber suit, shot at night, origin motivated by revenge, Danny Elfman music, even a recreation of the "batwing against the moon = chest logo" shot, only with a lightning bolt in the place of the batwing.

Yes,and these days,it's the dark drama that captivates most of America(CSI,24,NCIS,Cold Case etc.)that's watching TV so this is the trend they tend to drift towards.Most of your lighter or comedy shows and movies seem to be geared towards a lower common denominator or the "romantic comedy" crowd and there's few of those shows on or get very little promotion(even the good ones).

But thing is: "Iron Man" was a big hit too (second biggest hit of 2008 after TDK I think) and it was pretty much exactly the right mix of comedy and drama that you'd want in a Superman movie.

The other big hits of the year included Indiana Jones, Hancock and Kung Fu Panda. Not every one of those movies was that good but they all adopted tones that, to varying degrees, were more in line with a character like Superman, Shazam, or even Wonder Woman and Green Lantern.

So obviously not all superhero movies have to be as grim and gritty as TDK to be successful. Unfortunately, if WM is a huge hit, as noted above, this will cement their thinking that they do.

Yep.....for WB,that's the way they're looking to go.All the other movies you mentioned I doubt would enter into their equations.Indiana was a hit but with mixed reviews.Iron Man was great and certainly one of the finest comic movies ever made but WB is looking at the numbers.DK did a billion dollars.....that's all they care about.

I'm surprised they didn't look at the other movies on the billion dollar list and decide that all their films should be about grim superheroes from mythical kingdoms, who go around rescuing sinking ocean liners and battling pirates .....uh....oh shit...look likes WB's next big superhero franchise is AQUAMAN!