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finished sereies 3. slow start but a strong finish. they finally figured it out!

The drums...the drums...the drums...

I thought this Easter special was pretty good.

Most of it, yeah. But, again, RTD doesn't know how to reign himself in. The show has become stagnant and by-the-numbers. I am SO ready to see the end of RTD and Tennant...

It's a decent episode of Who, but they had more than a week to put all this shit together. The specials should be bigger and better. I like Tennent's Doctor, but he should have just quit and handed it all over instead of having a non-season.

Gay!

Thanks! I like it, too. Took me forever to figure out the layers and stuff...

Planet of the Dead was shit. I really loved the first 3 years of RTD's Doctor Who and have tried to find the good points in his last year of sloppy boring crap but I can't with this.
The opening where the Doctor is eating a chocolate egg and says Happy Easter was the only part I enjoyed. These specials were supposed to be big, the rumors involved Paul Mcgann and the Time War as well as other huge stars. Instead we've got the Bionic Woman as a jewel thief who, like all RTD companions, is oh so special and impressive. The great thing about Donna in the Runaway Bride was that she was a moron, but RTD has gotten so damn sentimental that the show is little more than a whiny Doctor being led around by the "strong female" companion. From what I'm reading the Waters of Mars is going to be yet another standard story (but with an even fiestier companion) and then a two parter with the same guest stars from Journey's End and then Tenant's regeneration. What a waste.
RTD started out brilliantly, but I think he got too caught up in the big emotional moments that he lazily just writes a bunch of "yay Doctor" scenes where someone cries and/or salutes and calls it gold.
I love Tenant, he is MY Doctor but I can't wait to see him go. It's like watching someone you like suffer through humiliation after humiliation.

Bring on Moffet!

Amen sister! Can't wait for the 2010 new beginning...

another thing that's bugging me is the scheduling of these specials. I remember they kept saying they were going to air throughout 2009, instead it's going to be march then november then christmas and the last airing in 2010. That plus the fact they're so vague about the exact dates makes me think there have been some serious mismanagment. Maybe everyone was too busy saluting and crying to get one in for the summer.

Finally saw Planet of the Dead and liked it. What probably helped is I knew beforehand that it was more a standard story. Never cared for the Bionic Woman remake but liked the actress in this story. The UNIT bits were fun and the threat was more than interesting. The teasers for the next special did look anticlimatic though as we near the end of this Doctor"s run.

Watched the Torchwood mini that I guess is series 3 over the last couple of days and hope there will be a series 4 and that it's not so dark. Not much can be said without spoiling beyond did anyone else watch it yet?

I've only watched episodes 1 & 2 so far. Going to do a marathon tonight with the wife to get caught up. So far, it's easily the best Torchwood I've ever watched. They have found their perfect rhythm and stride. I'll probably have more to say once I've seen the whole thing.

However, I did not like PotD. It was a lot of gloss and no substance. It's exactly the kind of thing I've always feared Doctor Who becoming. The polar extreme of what it once was, given the Classic era's great stories and horribly limited budgets. Fingers-crossed this kind of crass, soul-less presentation of Doctor Who will fade a little with Moffat's tenure...

I thought this was the best Torchwood yet also but didn't like the ending. As for PotD, I'm very much guilty of enjoying some "gloss no substance" episodes. It would get old if that's all there was of course but as you point out with Moffat coming on board there's little chance of that happening

Man! I just finished Torchwood Season Three. Fuck! That was brutal! I'm going to have to digest this all a little bit...

Yeah it was brutal but considering the history of the show I probably shouldn't have been surprised by many of the big bad things that happened.

I wonder if there will be a 4th series?

I don't know. That was pretty deconstructionist of them. If there is a 4th season, they would have to do some serious rebuilding. I read that the Lois character was originally written to be Martha Jones (from Doctor Who) but she was busy doing Law & Order: UK so Lois was created. Also, Mickey Smith (also from DW) was to have most of Reese's lines, but Noel Clarke's off doing a film. I think it worked better not having two recognizable characters like that, though. However, if they do another season, I'd watch it if they get Mickey Smith back...

I don't know how you guys in the US can watch such bollocks as torchwood when you have so many great shows!

Interesting.

Perhaps they are refilming all those Troughtan episodes the BBC accidentally burned.

Bow tie, old school TARDIS.

He looks like a supply teacher!

Yeah, I'm kind of digging the "1950's American Math Professor"-look. Like Jaburg says, it's a Troughton-esque redo. We'll have to see how it plays out with him as the character. I'd love it if he were this awkward, gawky character to contrast Ten's pretty-boy.

And Royford Batty, my love, I'd normally agree with you, except that Children of the Earth was the balls-to-the-wall hard and awesome. Give this one a shot, man...

I'm afraid I did and I didn't like any of it.

It took itself way too serious and unfortunately I find the torchwood team totally dislikeable.

But what I did enjoy was Geoff Johns Blackest Night!

No ROY NOOOOOOO!!

I like bits here and there but the characters do tend to be unlikeable. The first season was almost entirely based around stories where somebody from Torchwood caused the problem that needed to be solved. This last series seemed better but there would be moments like Gwen holding a small kid while telling the story how the world ended with her husband taping her and a bunch of other kids cowering in fear. What type of person would do that?

There was a time that Doctor Who dressed in a flamboyant style that nobody else would dress in. Since the comeback, the creators have become boring.
Not only do they seem to be unable to do stories that do not revolve around Earth, but they have lost the creative spark as far as his costume goes.

Quite frankly, while the dress sense is somewhat quirky on this gay looking emo, its still far too damn normal.

Look at both Bakers, Troughton, McCoy, Davidson, McGann and Pertwee and they looked out of place in any time, but because of the new series reliance on being set in modern day England, the last three have all been far to conformist.

And going on the assistants dress sense, it would seem she has borrowed her wardrobe from Buffy the vampires slayers Willow, circa 1997.

I agree with you, overall. I guess it doesn't bother me too much, as long as it has something of an individualistic or eccentric flair. It doesn't have to be Victorian or Edwardian, necessarily, for me to like it. For example, I loved Eccles' U-Boat Captain outfit, even though it's a variation on something you might see in modern fashion in certain cultures. It all depends on how the actor portrays The Doctor, that defines the vibe the clothes give off. That's why I agree with you, in relation to David Tennant's pretty-boy vibe. Too mainstream feeling for The Doctor, in my opinion.

Also, on a completely unrelated note, I won the K-1 Robot from Baker's pilot episode (titled ever so cleverly) 'ROBOT'.

While each character Doctor has always had a different character, the clothes themselves always lend to that character in my opinion, and the clothing worn since the revival have added nothing, and in my mind actually take something away from it.
Eccleston was the worst in that his clothes were something that anyone would quite happily wear, and I would go as far as to say he was fashionable.
Now this may have worked, had the follow ups been a bit more flamboyant, to make his Doctor stand out more as the serious Doctor, but instead we get two more normally dressed, though less fashionable, Doctors.

They dont have to be as out there as Colin Baker but they should stand out from the crowd, even when on Earth.

I don't totally agree or disagree with you. I'd like to see more eccentric clothes for the character, but I don't think that Tennet or the new guy are exactly too conformist. They were a bit stand outish themselves. Tennet was a 60's era mod suit with sneakers. This guy is Indian Jonesish college professor. They're still doing the same concept of using dress from different time eras as they did originally but moving outside the Edwardian era. Ever since Tom's run, they'd gotten more and more outlandish, especially with Colin's. I think a lot of those Who years suffered because of JNT's decree that the Doctor have a singular, superhero type costume.

McGann's costume wouldn't make him not fit in any time. On the contrary, it was a wild west costume (Doc Holiday if I remember) that he stole. And Pertwee was an old man trying to be fashionable but a few years behind the time. He was wearing the same shit that the Beatles, The Who, and Hendrix were sporting in the late 60's.

Actually Pertwee was more of a Victorian dandy with his ruffles and bowties etc, I dont think that many people dressed like that in the 60s.

As for McGann, despite the fact he fitted into the wild west, he still would stand out like a sore thumb in any other era.

With the Tennant and Smith costumes, although they do represent an era of sorts, they are certainly not out of place in the modern era as many people dress like that (take Jarvis Cocker as a perfect example), and would not look so outlandish if they travelled to the past.

I don't know anyone who dresses like Smith's Doctor unless they're really, really old. Like Ric Flair old..... cuz he was in the Civil War.

Seriously, though, I think Tennant and Smith's Doctor would be just as out of place as McGann's in most time periods. A mod suit, while a suit, is a particular one that is an attention grabber and odd outside of that little culture and time. And, yes, Pertwee was a Victorian dandy; but that is still a look that was very prevalent in late 60's rock, especially British rock. I can dig up some pics of similar stuff that Hendrix, the Stones, and others were wearing at that time.

As long as there are no "question mark" motifs, or multi-colored bastard coats, then I'm okay...