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...somebody's building another tardis

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I know. What the fuck! That's awesome. I hope that gets expanded on later. Next week looks balls-out-awesome.

Loved this week, surprisingly. Wasn't annoyed at any point, and enjoyed watching Matt Smith. Nice to see him get a solo. Also nice to see a Doctor who's a footballer rather than just Davison and the Cricket. Also nice to see them utilizing Matt Smith's past career experience as a player. Smart move.

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It was obviously timed to tie in with the world cup starting this weekend if there was football involved.

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Well, it was obviously timed well, then, as it was a great episode. Soooo much better than L&M from Season Two.

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Just started watching the new Who and really like it. I didn't like the Smith choice initially but everyone here was talking like he was a good Doctor so I wasn't to surprised that he was indeed good in the role. Amy Pond has been a fun and interesting companion as well. Had to laugh at the space whale episode though. I loved it but it reminded of some of the criticism Davies took. The multi colored Daleks are ok but it doesn't make them more scary. They will sell more action figures though. The first part of the angels was really good and very much looking forward to part two!

As for the 11 doctor action figure set I'm not sure if I'll get that. I have the first 6 doctors as well as doctors 9 & 10 but I never cared much for 7 or 8. The shelf they hang out on is pretty crowded anyways.


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I thought it was also neat that it looked like Amy was wearing an outfit that I think Ramona had worn. It would make sense since Amy had left in her pjs but that attention to detail is a nice cool bit.


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I wonder why the hologram wasn't shown (except that it had glasses and white hair). Could it be connected to the fact that they've been showing the first doctor's face a lot?

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Pobably won't pick this up either but just the fact that character options is doing Ainley's Master could a Leela be far behind?



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I'm TOTALLY getting that! I've been waiting on an Ainley. Also...



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 Originally Posted By: Son of Mxy
I wonder why the hologram wasn't shown (except that it had glasses and white hair). Could it be connected to the fact that they've been showing the first doctor's face a lot?


I don't know. That's weird, huh? I've read other comments on Who boards similar in thought. But, I think it might just be a coincidence.

However, we are getting a LOT of past Doctor reference shots this season, aren't we? Are they prepping us for something?

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Is Paul McGann in the Pandorica?

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Speaking of the Pandorica, here's what I think:

There's that quote where they're talking about the "most feared being in all the worlds" being caught in that thing. Given what we've seen and know of how The Doctor is viewed in his universe, I'm thinking the Pandorica is empty. I think it's a prison for The Doctor himself. It's trap.

That's what I think. I could be wrong. If so, I hope it's better than that...

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that....actually makes sense to me. Which would also explain the appearance of some (or most/all) of his deadliest enemies.

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As for the crack, it seems to me like two more episodes is not enough to address that and all the issues it brings. I'm betting it will be addressed on Smith's final season (and we'll probably see Rory sometime before that). The DIY Tardis seems like it could use a reappearance as well.


Also, do they grow old while time travelling? It would seem weird if it takes them a long time to solve the crack thingie and bring Amy back for her wedding a few years older.

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 Originally Posted By: Prometheus



Not seen any of those previewed!

Strange how they're doing Pete in Bakers clothing when they haven't done Baker in it yet!

Not too keen on the Eccles figure!

I love the look of the Davison/Master 2 pack!

Not sure about the Hartnell Tardis set.

I recently received the 2 Tardis sets - McCoy and Tombo.

Pretty pointless to get both as the Tardis is exactly the same - initial previews were that they would be different! The McCoy figure is at least a repaint but the Baker one is exactly the same as the first release, even though it's listed as being based upon the look of Planet of Evil!


I love the look of 11 Doctor Boxset! I think they should have taken the opportunity to have repainted them all or add/change some of the details! As it stands, the first 2 Doctors look exactly the same as the already released figures.

They originally released 3 Perters figures, all with the blue smoking Jacket. I like that they have given him the green one but maybe they could have left off the long coat!

Rayman must be wetting himself for season 17 Tombo figure.

Davison and Col, look a little different, maybe resculpts!

McCann - now we have all the Doctors!

I've already pre-ordered this set!

I hope they do a Terror of the Zygons Tombo in Tartan!


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 Originally Posted By: Prometheus


However, we are getting a LOT of past Doctor reference shots this season, aren't we? Are they prepping us for something?

I think that may due to the difference between Moffat (Moffet?) and rtd. rtd seemed to hate referencing the old series or doing multi-doctor episodes because he believed that somehow detracted from the show or whatever. Moffat(Moffet?) seems to have an appreciation for the history of the show and understands that the viewers aren't morons who don't know the show has a 45 year history.

[rant]This is what bugged me about the 2009 specials. after all the set up rtd OWED us a time war story. and I got my hopes up with the rumors that mcgann was going to star in an episode set during that period. it would give us the whole story as well as finally show the lost regeneration. but alas we got the crap he gave us and all the big drama and crying that he felt made up for a lack of story. [/rant]


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I think between Lodger, Midnight, and Deadly Assassin they should do more solo-Doctor stories. The three listed are among my all time favorites.


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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment_and_arts/10312426.stm

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Christopher Eccleston talks about Doctor Who exit

Eccleston starred opposite Billie Piper in the Doctor Who revamp Actor Christopher Eccleston quit Doctor Who after one series because he "didn't enjoy the environment and the culture" of the show.

Eccleston, who is about to star in BBC Four biopic Lennon Naked, took on the role of the Time Lord when Russell T Davies revamped Doctor Who in 2005.

He told the Radio Times he was proud of the show but "wasn't comfortable" working on it.

"I think it's more important to be your own man than be successful, so I left."

Eccleston, the ninth Doctor announced he was leaving after just one series to be replaced by David Tennant.

"I was open-minded but I decided after my experience on the first series that I didn't want to do any more," he said.
"I didn't enjoy the environment and the culture that we, the cast and crew, had to work in.

"I thought if I stay in this job, I'm going to have to blind myself to certain things that I thought were wrong."

But the 46-year-old said the fact that he played the Doctor - and not that he had quit - was "the most important thing".
"I really feel that because it kind of broke the mould and it helped to reinvent it.

"I'm very proud of it."

In an initial statement announcing his exit in March 2005, the BBC said the actor was afraid of being typecast and had found the series gruelling.

The corporation later accepted the statement was incorrect and that it had not spoken to Eccleston before releasing it.

"They handled it very badly but they issued an apology and I dropped it," he added.

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I was just aboutto post this. I wonder exactly what he meant by "wrong." If he was proud of the work then was it production or BBC?


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Rumors:

-Eccleston and Barrowman did not get along. John likes to be a big jokster/flaming queen on set. Eccleston is a very serious actor. You do the math.

-Keith Boak, a director for an entire block of episodes, treated Eccles like he didn't know how to act, and was unreceptive to any advice from the actors.

-He was not allowed any input to the direction of his character, or the scripts.

-Eccles was under pressure to re-sign for Season Two before Rose even aired. During this time, his father was dying. With filming taking nine months straight, he didn't know if he would have the time to dedicate to another season.

-While he was deciding whether to stay or go, the BBC execs told RTD and Julie Gardner to start talking to David Tennant. Chris found out, and felt like he was no longer wanted. This is also about the same time the BBC came out and stated "typecasting" fears for his reason in leaving, which was a lie.

-Doctor Who suddenly became the BBC's flagship show, and they were trying to get this reclusive actor to do all of this press for the show.

I would say 90% of the above is steeped in truth. I don't think it was any one single reason...

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He also wanted time to prepare to play Destro in the G.I. Joe movie.


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Jesus, Rex, do have no loyalty? You know you loved Eccles as The Doctor. Why bring up his pain? Why?!

God, not even HIS acting could help that travesty of a film...

Rex, seriously, have you tried Matt Smith yet? I feel like you would like him, I don't know why...

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I loved the G.I. Joe movie. It was dumb nostalgic fun.

I'm gonna work my way through Doctor Who soon.


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See, I wanted it to be dumb and nostalgic for me, as well. But, it just never felt like G.I.Joe to me. It felt like some dumbass summer popcorn flick, containing all the shitty acting, script, etc. with a billion dollars poorly spent in CGI, with the tag-brand "G.I.Joe".

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As for Doctor Who, when did you stop? Did you watch any of Tennant's four years?

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Nice idea, horrible art!

I've long held a dream of paying Alex Ross to do a "All Doctors" print. It would probably cost too much. And, I'd love to find a better artist than Alex Ross...

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 Originally Posted By: Nöwheremän


\:lol\: \:lol\: \:lol\:

I got a bit turned off on Tennant after watching too many 11th doctor eps in a row, but rewatching Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead brought us back together and I'm boyfriends with the Tenth once more.

River Song is also growing on me. Did not like her at first, probably because she's not T & A material.

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Nice idea, horrible art!


I am still trying to work out what the blue splodge is in the bottom r/h corner.

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 Originally Posted By: Prometheus
Rumors:

-Eccleston and Barrowman did not get along. John likes to be a big jokster/flaming queen on set. Eccleston is a very serious actor. You do the math.

-Keith Boak, a director for an entire block of episodes, treated Eccles like he didn't know how to act, and was unreceptive to any advice from the actors.

-He was not allowed any input to the direction of his character, or the scripts.

-Eccles was under pressure to re-sign for Season Two before Rose even aired. During this time, his father was dying. With filming taking nine months straight, he didn't know if he would have the time to dedicate to another season.

-While he was deciding whether to stay or go, the BBC execs told RTD and Julie Gardner to start talking to David Tennant. Chris found out, and felt like he was no longer wanted. This is also about the same time the BBC came out and stated "typecasting" fears for his reason in leaving, which was a lie.

-Doctor Who suddenly became the BBC's flagship show, and they were trying to get this reclusive actor to do all of this press for the show.

I would say 90% of the above is steeped in truth. I don't think it was any one single reason...

Thing is, I have read/heard stuff where Eccleston said right from the start that he would probably only do one series, so I wouldnt take his word as gospel that it was all other peoples faults.
Also, he really isnt that good an actor, so thats why he was probably treated that way.

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Looks good.


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Will not watch. No spoilers required.

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The future doctor can open the tardis with a snap of his fingers.

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Looking forward to this. I didn't know River was in it, too.

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I didn't know either, until I saw the preview for it after The Lodger.

I didn't know you were still watching, Jeff. What do you think of the current stuff? Eleventh Doctor? Does Ashe watch with you?

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Currently going through the Eccleston season. Eccleston is not doing it for me. I don't like his doctor. He's doing the goofy bits but he looks so normal to me. The clothes, the hair, hell, even his built looks more action star than eccentric, quirky alien with a dark, vengeful side.

When Tennant or Smith does the "flailing, clumsy, but lo and behold-I can destroy entire worlds and races" bit, it works for me. With Eccleston he just looks like a pussy.

Or maybe it's because I'm only up to episode 5 of the first season and he gets better towards the end.

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Pro also gave me download links to some classic episodes. Pertwee's judo chops are awesome \:lol\:

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 Originally Posted By: Son of Mxy
Currently going through the Eccleston season. Eccleston is not doing it for me. I don't like his doctor. He's doing the goofy bits but he looks so normal to me. The clothes, the hair, hell, even his built looks more action star than eccentric, quirky alien with a dark, vengeful side.

When Tennant or Smith does the "flailing, clumsy, but lo and behold-I can destroy entire worlds and races" bit, it works for me. With Eccleston he just looks like a pussy.

Or maybe it's because I'm only up to episode 5 of the first season and he gets better towards the end.

Its cause he is a shit actor.

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