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What. A. Mindfuck. AWESOME!!

Once again, Moffat comes through like a champ. Delivering a solid, intelligent, brain-melting, EPIC finale, he has cemented his spot in the iconography of the Doctor Who legacy. And Matt Smith consistently tops himself in every scene. Damn awesome! But, I'm still working it out in my head as to what the FUCK just happened?!

Loved that Rory is sticking around. I wonder if he's still plastic? That would be effin' cool. The idea of him guarding Amy for 2000 years was badass, and really gives him a new insight for Moffat to work with. He's ancient like The Doctor now, which is probably what turns Amy on.

Smith looked awesome in the tux. He's obviously a slight clothes-horse, akin to Pertwee. Karen Gillan was smoking, as was River's milfy ass.

And I REALLY loved that they didn't resolve the whole "Big Bad"/The Silence yet. The over-arcing seasons reminds me of Davison's era, as well as gives this show a completely different pace. A solid, intelligent drama.

10/10. I officially love Doctor Who. Still.

Rowan Atkinson is the doctor http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do-wDPoC6GM loved the ending

The thing about River intrigues me. With the whole bit about rewriting time, does that mean the Vashti Nerada thing doesn't happen anymore? Or what is the deal with her killing someone important (if it's the doctor, how come he is still alive before Silence in the library?)

I've seen some comments about people complaining that This season seems too Final Fantasy/Fairy Tale-like, but I dunno, that's what I liked about it anyway.

Well done Llancethar. Not only did you once again fuck up the simple task of posting a video, you also managed to post a clip that SOM posted a few weeks ago.
At least when he posted it, it hadnt been posted for a while.

love that whole exchange.

I watched it happen. . . I MADE it happen!

not enough spin and deny. but points.

I don't think Rory is an Auton anymore. I got the impression that when time rebooted he (along with her mom and dad) returned and wasn't the Auton Rory.
Just an amazing episode. Not the melodrama of rtd finales, just a big epic fun cool amazingly clever episode.

Fezes are cool

Sinzerely,
TyphoidDave

Watched it again with the wife. I really love the happy ending, but at the same time all the companions of the doctors I've watched all left on a sad note, so I kind of expect that Rory and Amy will eventually leave the doctor the same way.

Also, I wonder if there's any connection between River and Pond, besides the fact that I want to bone them both.

Great finale for the season. The happy ending reminded me a little bit of Lost, except the everyone's really dead part was reversed. Also glad the mysterious voice was left unresolved for future episodes instead of cramming it almemories of being an Auton for thousands of years.

I think Rory is back to being human too but he would probably retain his old While he loses his gun hand he does get a real penis back. It will be interesting to see a married couple travel with the Doctor. I'm guessing we'll also see much more of River but it will be much earlier in her time line. Loved her repeated one word response to the Doctor's questions.l into the end of this season.

I decided to catch up on the episodes I missed, last night.
Overall, I am still not overly taken with the way the stories play out, as I still say too much of it is telegraphed for there to be any real surprises.

As for Rory, were none of you listening to what he said after Amy brought the Doctor back? Rory said "I WAS plastic!"

I do think the ending creates a whole new set of problems, because when Amy woke up, The Doctor had never existed in this timeline, so none of his adventures ever happened.
Which means that either the universe is in for another shake up (a reversal of the unwinding the Doctor went through), or that his adventures only exist in the memories of those close to him.
The fact that River remembered him right from the moment the universe was reborn, is obviously important as well as to the relationship she will have with The Doctor (or maybe she is The Doctor, or something like that).

I've liked this season because it did a better job that RTD's run of mixing in that old Who feeling. RTD would get it but then drop it, bringing it back solely for nostalgia moments to replace good storytelling. Moffat, I feel, has brought back an inclusive feel of old Who at its height. Good stories that adults can enjoy with kids. I think a lot of the telegraphed stuff was there for the kids. Where RTD would hit you with a few brilliant episodes (most of them written by Moffat) surrounded by meh ones, Moffat's run has been pretty solid without the roller-coaster feeling of RTD. There are weak episodes, of course; but I think Victory of the Daleks (the weakest one) is still fun to watch.



We heard it. It's Pro, man. He... um... 'forgets'...



No, I think it means that the Doctor was brought back into the timeline by Amy and not created by her memories of him as he was wearing an old tux and top hat, waiting for her wedding. If he was just born from her memories, he'd most likely of been dressed as he has for the series instead. It's a bit of the wishy-washy timey-whimeyness as Rory is human again but has Auton Rory memories. It is, quite frankly, the weakest part of the whole story. Yet, it was so entertaining getting to that point that I don't really mind it.

I've interpreted it as the doctor becoming part of the timeline again, which means everything that ever happened, except his adventures with Amy, really happened (which is why Rory forgot about him but remembered when Amy brought him back).

What I didn't get is the bit about the doctor not being born at all and the Earth is still fine. They should all be Daleks by that point, if there was no doctor. The world would have been fucked, kind of like what happened when Donna turned right.

Which was sort of my point.
I'm not saying she re-created him, I'm saying she brought him back into the new universe (if thats what its called), and that if thats the case, then anything the Doctor had done prior to that never happened, meaning, as you say, that anything the Doctor stopped in the past, would probably have won.

I know when you start getting into time travel it can really fuck with things (I mean, lets face it, The Terminator story creates more problems than it solves really), but when you wipe out a character like the Doctor from history, thats really gonna fuck things up.

Like I said, I think it brings him back just like she brought back her parents and Rory. They've existed before that point and had lives outside of the one they share with Amy. The Doctor and all his past selves and adventures return to the timeline together.

But thats why I say it would shake things up.
If he was wiped out and only got brought back once Amy remembered him, then it would have changed things around her in a big way.

As was noted when her mum first woke her up, she was surprised to see her, but couldnt work out why.
It was exactly the same thing that was happening to her with Rory, she kept crying but didnt know why.

Due to the whole trap being based on her mind imprint, she obviously became the key to reality (or sorts), so the only thing I could make a guess at is that the universe restructured still based on all the good the Doctor had done over the years, because there was still a phantom of him floating around in Amys brain.

that man can do anything!

not only can he act and play football, he can also dance around while pressing buttons on a synthesizer!

Superstar!

I was sent that link by a friend of mine who is a total Who mentalist, as he goes to conventions n all that shit. Proper geek when it comes to Doctor Who and Transformers etc.
We were having a long discussion about the latest series and some of the previous Doctors, and it was funny as he agreed with me on pretty much everything about the latest season, but he was even more vocal in his dislike of the writing, even saying its one of the worst seasons he has seen. He couldnt understand how the guy who wrote some of the best episodes during RTD's run could be responsible for such poor writing, and that the thing that saved it for him was the natural chemistry between Smith and Gillan, and just how natural Smith has eased into the character, even if he does need to start dropping some of the Tennantisms he copies.

I think the only things we didnt agree on is that his fave Doctor was Davison, and that he didnt like Colin Baker.
We did agree that we didnt like McCoy or Eccleston though.

We both agree though that Smith can be at least as popular as Tennant with both diehard Who fans and the kiddy fans, and that Amy Pond is far superior to Rose Tyler in every way (btw, did you know that the character Sam Tyler in Life on Mars, was given the name Tyler by the daughter of one of the LOM creators, and when they asked why she picked the name Tyler, it was because of Rose from Doctor Who?)

CBR article on The Doctor's adventures in comics:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=26949

Your CBR obsession is tearing these boards apart.

can't we all just get along?

No.

You shut your fucking mouth!

I'm scared, and I want some fucking chicken nuggets.

HERE COME THE DRUMS!

I just finished the season finale.

It was fun. I enjoyed it.

It was a tad cheesy and predictable.

From the preview I knew it was either the Doctor is in the box, or going to be.

Good, not great.

Thank goodness for Matt and Karen.

Once again I would also like to state that I fucking hate the modern Cybermen.

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=UND10305&mode=retail

Awesome!

I notice you bitch about how the show doesn't surprise you and then you miss rather obvious stuff. Like how you bitched about no one noticing the statues had one head when the Doctor said it was probably a low level perception filter.
Here you bitch about the cracks "erasing" the Doctor but that's not the case. All evidence has shown that while the cracks erase the memory and trace of a person it's not a rewrite of events. The best proof I can offer is that Amy's parents were erased but she still existed just in a house way too big for her. Also when the clerics were being erased none of the others thought much of the limited numbers. I imagine that like any military there is a set number of soldiers in a unit yet when these guys vanished they weren't replaced with the men who would've been assigned to the unit instead.

Also I think maybe the Doctor due to his unique Time Lord nature only had his Eleventh incarnation erased. That's pure speculation based on his rewinding along his timeline and ending as his current self began. No flashbacks to past incarnations. Also Amy couldn't remember back the other Doctors.

I also loved the happy ending. I think Ten was just too tragic at times. What I've enjoyed about this year is the pure sense of fun to it all. I don't think Amy and Rory will leave on a sad note, hopefully. I think the setup has been basically the Doctor brought Rory along to ease her back to her life when the time comes so he can avoid another messy goodbye. Eleven seems to have learned from Ten's problems.

Ray, I am truly sorry.
Truly sorry that you are a retard that is, and truly sorry that I broke you so easily.
Isnt it about time you ran off like a crying child again because someone disagrees with you?
Maybe your carer should monitor your internet usage more.

pardon the stupid question, I don't exactly have BBC in here, but I saw at the end credits that they'll be back on December, what are they showing during the hiatus?

Nothing.
Series over here only run a handful of episodes a year.

A. you sound like rex.
B. I'm not sure you "broke" someone when they tear apart your flawed reasoning and take the piss out of your "I'm smarter than this show" mentality by pointing out obvious things you missed.


What is "carer"? Is that an UK term I don't know or is this another case of you trying to be superior while failing to correctly spell out simple words?
Love,
Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man (r3x29yz4a)

Yup, still broken.
And still a whiney retard bitch!