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looks shockingly shite

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Shockingly? Everything about this film has sounded shitty from day one.

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"My friends have always been the best of me." -Doctor Who

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
Shockingly? Everything about this film has sounded shitty from day one.

Yeah but I had hoped that the age old "don't judge a cast before you see the film" would hold up. Sadly it looks like they are aiming this squarely at the Twilight generation, and throwing in a bit of "Christopher Nolan" style darkness.

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 Originally Posted By: Nöwheremän
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Shockingly? Everything about this film has sounded shitty from day one.

Yeah but I had hoped that the age old "don't judge a cast before you see the film" would hold up. Sadly it looks like they are aiming this squarely at the Twilight generation, and throwing in a bit of "Christopher Nolan" style darkness.


So it's right up your alley.

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Surgery can remove that.

I'm expecting the online rebuff, which seems to be almost universal, might cause the plot of this film to undergo editorial surgery, too.


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They didn't show him much, but Thing looks at least a bit better. He's got rough edges in his hide now. The Chiklis version is too smooth and lean.

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You said that you prefer things to be smooth and lean.


whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
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IN THE ASS!

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Curious isn't it that movie studios depart so much from the established story and thereby alienate the core audience and prime boosters for the movie. I don't understand why they do that other than directorial indulgence.


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Because, you know, a movie called FANTASTIC 4 should be totally dark and gritty.

It's like making a movie called Charlie & The Chocolate Factory, then filming it with the script of Schindler's List.


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Other reviews have given the trailer thumbs up because it is more science-y than fighting supervillains-y... I personally didn't see that.


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 Originally Posted By: Tobias Christopher
Because, you know, a movie called FANTASTIC 4 should be totally dark and gritty.

It's like making a movie called Charlie & The Chocolate Factory, then filming it with the script of Schindler's List.


Charlie and the chocolate factory was a story about a shut in who murdered children. Arguably it should be darker and grittier than FF.

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Even Jessica Alba couldn't save the first FF movie.



I wonder what they could possibly do to save this one.

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 Originally Posted By: Pariah
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Shockingly? Everything about this film has sounded shitty from day one.

Yeah but I had hoped that the age old "don't judge a cast before you see the film" would hold up. Sadly it looks like they are aiming this squarely at the Twilight generation, and throwing in a bit of "Christopher Nolan" style darkness.


So it's right up your alley.

Have you read the script already then?

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New FF trailer doesn't look much better then the first trailer http://wallstcheatsheet.com/entertainmen...rs.html/?ref=YF


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Inside a 'Star Wars' Firing: 'Fantastic Four' Problems Led to Director Josh Trank's Ouster: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/inside-a-star-wars-firing-792933

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I am not one to judge films in advance and usually like to give the benefit of the doubt until I have seen it, but this one just does nothing for me. I will probably watch it when it comes out on blu ray (will probably even buy it because I pretty much buy all Marvel/DC films except Catwoman.. nobody buys Catwoman except Pro), but I do not have much hope of liking it. It may surprise me with expectations this low.

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 Originally Posted By: Nowhereman
will probably even buy it because I pretty much buy all Marvel/DC films except Catwoman.. nobody buys Catwoman except Pro.


Wonderboy might buy one copy, after accidentally misreading the title as scatwoman.

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 Originally Posted By: Nöwheremän
I am not one to judge films in advance and usually like to give the benefit of the doubt until I have seen it, but this one just does nothing for me. I will probably watch it when it comes out on blu ray (will probably even buy it because I pretty much buy all Marvel/DC films except Catwoman.. nobody buys Catwoman except Pro), but I do not have much hope of liking it. It may surprise me with expectations this low.


I concur, learned La Now-he-remans.


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Not So Fantastic First Reviews Arrive For 'Fantastic Four'
http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/n...c-four-20150804

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Currently hovering around 9-10% on Rotten Tomatoes, putting it squarely in Halle Berry Catwoman territory.

So I guess we know what Pro's seeing this weekend.

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Enough of these hokey origin stories taking up 80% of the movie. You can show the FF's origins in a montage over the opening credits. Doom doesn't need to be involved in the origin to make him a cosmic ray metal man. shit, have him as war hero royalty...former university roommate of Richards, prince of latveria who got scarred in A rebellion brought on by typical political bullshit, put on a still smoldering mask because his vanity wouldn't let him be seen publicly with the fucked up face, then have him lead latveria in a super human war against the world. He doesn't need to be victor Von doom, tech entrepreneur, or victor Domashev, angry blogger...he is Victor Von Doom, and he will burn his family name into the world.

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It's why I loved Edward Norton's Incredible Hulk. It didn't bother with setting up the origin story - just a credits montage. It trusts that people already know who the big green guy is and where he came from (this also had the welcome side effect of the movie not being completely disconnected from Bana's Hulk. All you had to overlook was the different actors playing Banner.)

MCU is at least done with that shit. They've already established many of their heroes so they can do fuck all with origin stories and go straight to building up the current plot. It's not a coincidence that they're having an easier time bringing new properties to the big screen while Sony and Fox still trip over themselves trying to reboot everything.

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The only good Fantastic Four movie is The Incredibles

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 Originally Posted By: Stupid Doog
The only good Fantastic Four movie is The Incredibles


Yes. I will say that Evans and Chiklis were perfect for the Human Torch and the Thing. Julian McMahon was even a decent Doom. Those movies went wrong with Alba and Gruffudd having zero chemistry and horrible plots. That said, at least the second one embraced its roots and had the fantasticar.


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On the bright side, this debacle has inspired me to rewatch "the Incredibles" this weekend

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So the box office has basically been a total flop by all accounts which makes it a surprise to most that a sequel was given the green light long before the movie even came out. I think there is an obvious reason for the sequel being announced, just the same as the reason for the reboot in the first place, Fox do not want the rights to revert back to Marvel/Disney.

My mate told me a story I found quite humourous if its true, and that is that normally comic book companies capitalise on movies by releasing shit loads of new one shots and mini series etc, but in this instance Marvel have actually cancelled the FF comic book as a snub to Fox.

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 Originally Posted By: Nöwheremän
So the box office has basically been a total flop by all accounts which makes it a surprise to most that a sequel was given the green light long before the movie even came out. I think there is an obvious reason for the sequel being announced, just the same as the reason for the reboot in the first place, Fox do not want the rights to revert back to Marvel/Disney.


Could be. At the same time, I remember WB announcing sequels to GL and Superman Returns even after it was pretty obvious that neither was getting a sequel. I think its a standard thing with potential franchises that they lock everything (including a release date) down as much as possible before the movie comes out because its easier to cancel a sequel than gear one up.

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I dont remember ever seeing confirmation on either of those films getting sequels, and certainly do not remember dates.
Most franchises do not green light a sequel until after the box office returns come in. Only way they ever commit to more in advance is if its a known "winner" like the Fast and furious films.

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WB had green lit a Green Lantern sequel before it opened. They dropped it after the dismal box office returns. Marvels next phase films slate also had the Infinity Wars Avengers movies before AoU was even finished with production.


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My parents texted me that they watched Fantastic Four along with my sister and her son. All four of them hated it (and my folks actually watched Twilight and "enjoyed the fight scenes.")

Their main complaint was that it took too long before things got interesting - and they're not familiar with the Fantastic Four so if Fox did another origin story to introduce it to non comic book fans, they failed even in that regard.

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 Originally Posted By: thedoctor
Marvels next phase films slate also had the Infinity Wars Avengers movies before AoU was even finished with production.

Which is why I said a guaranteed franchise will often get announced in advance.

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The beginning did feel too slow, then the ending felt rushed.

I didn't think it was the worst movie ever though.

They should have stuck with either the serious style of the painfull body transformations and coming to terms, OR go the campy superhero big laser in the sky story.

If it wasnt a "Fantastic Four" movie, would I have liked it more? I wonder.

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If it wasn't a Fantastic Four movie and it had naked women.

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 Originally Posted By: Ultimate Jaburg53

I didn't think it was the worst movie ever

High praise, indeed

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It should be on the back of the dvd case

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Golden Razzie Awards: In addition to tying with "50 Shades of Grey" for worst film of the year, "Fantastic Four" was also lambasted as worst remake, rip-off or sequel and earned the worst director prize for Josh Trank.


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