RKMBs Forums .::Important::. Politics and Current Events Coronavirus outbreak in China, and global pandemic

It was either Cicero or Sargon of Akkad, I'm positive.

I tried searching under multiple different phrasings, and it keeps being attributed to Michael Savage. Whether or not he actually coined the phrase.
I'd frankly prefer if it was Cicero.

The terms Left and Right, at least here, are attributed to French politics leading up to the French Revolution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics



I think maybe emeritus professor of economics Barry Clark should read Animal Farm, and enlighten himself to the results of 100 years of marxist socialism in nations like Russia, China, North Korea, Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela and other failed states. That have only resulted in even greater "excessive differences in status, power and wealth".

Not to mention mass graves of political dissenters.

LABOR DEPARTMENT: U.S. ECONOMY ADDS 1.37 MILLION JOBS IN AUGUST, UNEMPLOYMENT FALLS TO 8.4%


For the record, the unemployment rate was 4.7% at the end of Obama's term, and Trump had gotten it down to 3.6% in Jan 2020, just before the pandemic and the shutdown occurred.

So... even with Democrat state governors in California, Michigan, New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and other states doing their damnedest with non-science-based shutdowns to prevent recovery and hurt Trump in the November election, Trump is still doing a remarkable job of managing a rapid recovery.

And by the way, the Dow on Tuesday reached 29,101, just 450 points below its all-time high in February just before the pandemic shutdown occurred. The market recovered almost 100% of its previous crash down to 18,000, and that's without a vaccine yet available, which could occur as soon as Nov 1st.
Granted there has been a market correction into the 28,000 range 2 of the last 3 days, but overall a remarkable recovery, almost all the losses regained.

Following CDC recommendations is about as scientific as you can get. I usually believe that you at least believe what you post but stuff like this is so obviously flawed and nonsensical. As for the stock market you should review your comments when it bounced back after the Bush recession. The government is propping everything up with huge amounts of deficit spending.

Trump didn’t just fail to lead on Coronavirus but was a misleader. Because he’s a lying corrupt piece of shit that has politicized and bullied his own scientists I fear for how safe my nieces and nephews are returning to school. Or how safe an eventual vaccine will be. Or even how fair an election will be where he’s asking voters to commit electoral fraud. I used to think republicans valued democracy but it’s very apparent that enough don’t as I either hear crickets or cheering Trump when he does crap like that.

Courtesy of Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_the_United_States#Economic

Monthly 2020 unemployment rates before and during pandemic:

• FEBRUARY: 3.5%
  
  MARCH 4.4% (when shutdowns began, in mid-late March)
  
  APRIL 14.7%
  
  MAY 13.3%
  
  JUNE 11.1%
  
  JULY: 10.2%
  
  AUGUST 8.4%

That's a remarkable recovery in just 4 months since the shutdown, for which the Trump administration deserves great credit. And that's with the Democrat governors of half the states sabotaging the recovery with prolonged shutdowns (Speaker Nancy Pelosi's most recent hair salon incident perfectly gives case example to the absurdity of the shutdowns, meaningless except for their pure political motivation, and enforced only to crush their Republican/conservative/small business political opposition.)

If Hillary Clinton or Joseph Biden were president, the pointless shutdowns would be even more widespread, and tens of millions more would be unemployed or forced into bankruptcy of their businesses. Because of Trump, most of these people still have their jobs and businesses, and will return to their work much more quickly. As the science, not the political weaponization of shutdowns, warrants.

As is every country on earth. Scientists looking at the data of the shut down, where they were most stringently locked down and where they were less so or not at all, shows there is little difference in the infection rates. In point of fact, the cases are higher in regions with those forced to be locked up for weeks with infected family members. As I cited earlier, being locked up at home was by far the place most were infected. The second largest was using public transportation. And, of course, nurssing homes. So where is the "science" that rationalizes the shutdowns as practiced in states like New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Michigan and California? There is no justification, other than empty Democrat fear rhetoric. Or as in the cases of Bill DeBlasio, Gretchen Whitmer, Andrew Cuomo, Lori Lightfoot, and the cited Pelosi example above, a case of "Shut up and obey, while we break our own laws and do whatever we want." Shutdown laws for thee, but not for me. Selective enforcement, based on Democrat party benefit.

Regarding the deficit spending, the Democrats are pushing for TRILLIONS MORE deficit spending, even as Democrats hypocritially bemoan what Trump is spending. At least in the case of Trump's deficit spending, there is legitimate worldwide crisis to require the spending. But even with what he spends it is far less than the Democrats, who want to use the crisis to covertly fund their power-grab.




Bla bla bla, Trump, "piece of shit", lying, corrupt, bla bla bla.

I don't see any supporting facts to back up those slanders and insults.




That's ridiculously opposite the science your party tries to bury. People under the age of 25 have about a 99.4% of not contracting the virus, and those in the unlikely event they did get it, would have no symptoms at all, or a very mild case. The danger in schools is to their teachers, particularly those over the age of 40, which excludes most teachers from high risk.
The science even shows that children carry such a small load of the virus as to not even be carriers to older people at risk. But then, I don't expect those facts to be reported in the fear-porn that passes for news on CNN, MSNBC or the other liberal media.

And the vaccine's safety will be determined by the 70 or so private companies eacch separately working on a vaccine, not by Trump somehow pushing through something unsafe. News of a vaccine approaching readiness by Nov 1st was announced by these companies and the CDC to Trump, that he after repeated at a press conference.
I'm sure you don't have the same absurd mistrust of vaccines ready or near-ready in Russia, China, or Australia. No, your propagandized mistrust is only for a vaccine that would benefit Trump politically, and therefore has to be slandered and discredited as "dangerous".

And Trump is not asking anyone to "commit electoral fraud" . He is asking voters to verify their mail-in ballots are counted, and if not counted in advance, to make sure they vote instead on election day. More lying Democrat propaganda. It's Democrats who want about 50 million ballots in the mail to unverified names and addresses, of people who have either moved from that address, have died, or were fraudulently registered. California is the prime example of Democrwt voter fraud, where they purposefully avoid updating their voter-rolls that would weed out the potential for voter fraud. And used just-legalized "ballot harvesting" to fraudently seize Democrat control of a Republican stronghold for decades, that suddenly/mysteriously turned Democrat in 2018, as soon as California legalized ballot-harvesting to deceitfully seize that district.

Democrats are the absolute masters of election fraud. And it's just irony and pure projection when you guys accuse Republicans of the tactics your side lawlessly uses to rig election after election, as a matter of course.

Trump, piece of shit and enemy of democracy “ “Let them send it in and let them go vote,” Trump said in an interview on Wednesday with WECT-TV in Wilmington, North Carolina. “And if the system is as good as they say it is, then obviously they won’t be able to vote” in person.“

Don’t bother trying to lie about what he said WB, it’s right there for all to see

I can't even discern what you're trying to say in that flawed syntax.

Trump has said that absentee ballots (where a registered voter personally requests a ballot, and therefore their authenticity and address are verified) are lawful and acceptable.

But Trump said just mailing out ballots to every voter (where there is no verification that the person is a lawful voter, no verification that is a given voter's current address, or that they even plan to vote, that any number of people could fraudulently fill out and mail in, and where many states have no previous history or infrastructure to handle mail-in ballots) is **NOT** lawful or verifiable, and that it will result in many ballots being uncountable and thrown out, or fraudulently mailed by someone other than the actual voter it was mailed to.

That has already proven disastrous in several mail-in Democrat primary elections in New Jersey and elsewhere in the last 2 months, where about 20% of the votes were considered invalid and could not be counted. In a national election in November, the same inherent problems will result in millions of uncountable votes, and plenty of fraudulent votes that slip by undetected. But then, that's what the Democrats plan on, isn't it?

It’s a direct quote of Trump telling voters to send in their mail in ballot and than try to also vote in person. I think you understand perfectly what the pos is saying.

I obviously follow the news and listen to what the president says. But in what you slice and diced here, I don't recognize the quote or any discernable context.
But in your perverse hatred of Donald Trump, you've clearly twisted it to represent the ultimate evil.

I think you’re not being honest here. Trump has told voters to send in their mail ballots and than go try to vote in person multiple times now. And it’s not perverse to not like someone that gushes about Putin and can’t say anything about Putin poisoning his political enemies. Or worry about our democracy when the pos has already said if he loses the election it’s only because it was stolen. Unlike some people I don’t hate an entire side because of partisanship.

Trump on audio admitting to downplaying a deadly pandemic

When even he admits he downplayed it can we agree that he downplayed it? And maybe wonder how many more people died because of it? After knowing how deadly Coronavirus could be he continued to have rallies. To this day he still tries to bully someone wearing a mask. That is not a good person and someone even remotely fit for that office.

The Democrat/liberal media false narrative of the week. That in truth reveals nothing new. It recycles things reported in the news 7 months ago, that Trump at the time said his job as president was to keep things calm and avoid a panic, while simultaneously with his ACTIONS as president moving to protect the lives of Americans.

1. Trump enacted a suspension of all travel from China on Jan 31, about 10 days after China (after knowing it was highly infectious from human-to-human, but China having lied about it for 6 weeks, allowing it to spread worldwide) finally admitted what they knew all along, that it was highly infectious to humans. [CONTRAST: Biden, the other Democrat primary candidates, the liberal media and especially CNN and MSNBC, were portraying Trump as "xenophobic" and "racist" and "over-reacting" for putting in place the travel ban. Well which is it, liberal media and Democrats, was Trump over-reacting or not doing enough!?? It's crystal clear that when you accuse Trump of over-reacting for the opening several months, you would have done nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to stop the virus coming in from China, so it's pure hypocrisy to say now that Trump "lied" and didn't do enough. You would have done NOTHING. ]

2. Trump secured the southern border against illegals. [CONTRAST WITH DEMOCRATS: Same thing. They called Trump racist and xenophobic, and they would have done NOTHING to secure a wave of Covid-19 cases coming in from the Mexican border. ]

3. Trump began a trade war with China for an entire year prior to the pandemic, that moved a lot of manufacturing out of China and vastly decreased our dependency on China, just before the pandemic. Under Hillary or Biden, that would never have occurred, and we would have been completely dependent on China for supplies, and unable to defend ourselves.

4. Trump immediately declared a national health emergency at the same time. [CONTRAST: During the 2009-2010 swine flu epidemic, Obama waited 6 months to declare a national emergency, and it had already infected millions and was out of control when Obama finally declared the emergency. It ultimately infected about 60 million people in the U.S. in 2009-2010, as compared to less than 6 million infected with Covid-19 at this point. ]

5. Trump also about a month later declared a suspension on all travel from Europe. [CONTRASTING DEMOCRAT response: derision, accused of over-reaction. Australia and Taiwan enacted similar travel bans, only Trump was criticized. But regardless, it'a clear that Biden and other Democrats would have done nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, and Covid-19 would have run wild across America, killing at least the 1 to 2 million estimated to die. Only Trump's decisive leadership prevented that. ]

6. Trump went against his own medical advisors to do the travel shutdown on Chinese travel to the U.S., and only after the fact did Fauci say it was "the single greatest strategic move" in containing Covid-19 and flattening the curve, that it "saved tens of thousands of lives".
Biden and the Democrats would have let those tens of thousands die.

7. Trump was saying many of the same things that Fauci and other federal health officials, and pundit medical advisors at CNN and MSNBC, were saying. That [throughout Jan, Feb, and well into March] were all saying the annual flu was a greater threat to the U.S. than Covid-19, that they didn't anticipate Covid-19 being a great threat to the U.S., and that [like swine flu, like SARS, like other respiratory outbreaks from China] it would likely only have a brief surge, and then would just drop off in new infections and "just disappear". But Trump is held up as being incompetent and/or "lying" for saying exactly what these health experts were saying, while these others remain sainted towers of infallible medical advice.
No double standard, none at all.

8. Trump mobilized the private sector to mass-produce PPE medical equipment and ventilator machines, created mobile hospitals to contain the anticipated overflow of surging Covid-19 cases, deployed U.S. navy medical ships, and far exceeded what the media and Democrat friendly "medical experts" said was impossible to mobilize. Trump not only provided these, WAY in excess of what was estimated to be needed and (far less) actuall needed, but also had such oversupply that we could provide it to Mexico and other nations not as prepared.
[IMPORTANT CONTRAST WITH DEMOCRATS: Even when Trump supplied these resources to Democrat governors in New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Michigan and California, they **STILL** squandered those resources, and inflicted the highest per capita Covid-19 death tolls ON THE PLANET on the regions these Democrat idealogues controlled. If not for Democrat governors, the U.S. would have the lowest per capita ratio of cases of any nation on earth. But even with these incompetent Democrat governors, we have the second lowest ratio of cases, second only to Germany. ]

9. Trump with his "Operation Warp Speed" (love the Star Trek reference) is fast tracking a vaccine for Covid-19 that is anticipated to be ready and distributed in November, WAY ahead of the normal research , production and distribution of a vaccine that usually takes 2 years or more. There is NO WAY that Biden, Hillary, or any other piece-of-shit Democrat, who are Cultural Marxists and despise the private sector, would similarly mobilize and mass-produce all that Trump has in the last 6 months, and (as in the example from 2009-2010 pandemic under Obama/Biden that infected 60 million Americans) Democrat leaders in charge would have done nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to contain the Covid-19 pandemic as they just sat on their hands and let it run wild across America.

And then these same Democrats have the audacity to allege Trump didn't do enough. Irony times a billion.

It’s on tape WB. The pos deliberately downplayed the pandemic. We will never know how many people have died because they bought what he was saying. Sorry but that is easy to understand evil.

That's a twisted version of what Bob Woodward's taped conversation with Trump actually said. Trump acted to protect the nation that Democrats and the liberal media NEVER would have done, as is clear in the Democrat hysterics of "racism" and "over-reaction" to what Trump actually did. If you were paying attention, what Trump said is he acted with calm leadership of the nation, while simultaneously doing everything he could to prepare and protect the nation from the pandemic.

Which again, as Democrats' own comments make clear, they would have done NOTHING to protect the nation. As their own self-incriminating comments make impossible to deny.

At least Putin must feel Trump has made America great...for him. He wanted and still wants people to pack into his rallies. Tell me how great that is!

Chinese virologist posts report claiming COVID-19 was made in Wuhan lab

Dr. Li-Meng Yan, a former researcher at the Hong Kong School of Public Health, posted a paper on the the open-access repository website Zenote, that she claims shows how SARS-CoV-2 could be “conveniently created” in a laboratory setting in six months.

The paper, co-authored with two others, is titled “Unusual Features of the SARS-CoV-2 Genome Suggesting Sophisticated Laboratory Modification Rather Than Natural Evolution and Delineation of Its Probable Synthetic Route.”

It claims to note how “SARS-CoV-2 shows biological characteristics that are inconsistent with a naturally occurring, zoonotic virus.”

Other scientists out of California have previously published a journal article mapping out the virus’ genetic sequence which they say proves “SARS-CoV-2 is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus.”

Excerpt. https://nypost.com/2020/09/14/chine...port-claiming-covid-19-was-made-in-wuhan-lab/

Yeah, and the Chinese government tried to "disappear her" before she managed to get away and provide her evidence.

On the germ warfare front, on the naval front where they now have more ships than the U.S. navy, on the cyber-warfare front, on the vastly expanding nuclear missiles front (just announced yesterday on Lou Dobbs, China has missiles that can hit the United States and has expanded their arsenal tenfold in just 10 years), on the militarization of space front, on the economic front where China steals trade secrets from every foreign business in China, and then creates Chinese corporations that compete with and drive out of business the companies they stole from. On these and many other fronts, China is becoming a very scary country.

And I suspect China is using every back-channel deceitful way they can to get Joseph Biden elected president in 2020. The Democrats have proven there's no treason or deceit they would not sink to.
I saw an interview this morning on Fox with an F.E.C. watchdog, saying the Dems have received hundreds of millions in donations that when verified calling the donor names, donations in the thousands and millions turn out to be unemployed Americans who could not possibly have donated. What better way to hide foreign donations to the DNC and Biden campaigns than to donate in the names of people who without verification would never know?

Ahh, the "Trump is a Russian asset" false canard...

From the Ukraine faces deadliest crisis in decades topic



Further, Trump has unleashed a ton of crippling sanctions on Russia that are crushing their ability to wage war, Trump has given military aid to Ukraine to defend themselves from Russia (Obama never gave any military aid), and given Ukraine and the rest of Europe a massive supply of U.S. oil and natural gas so as to eliminate their dependency on Russian oil and gas.
And Trump has strengthened NATO and the U.S. military, way beyond what Obama, Hillary or clueless Biden would ever do.

Russia is once again actively trying to help re-elect Trump. Where we’ve pulled out of places Russia has happily moved in. We are more isolated than ever as Trump lavished praise on dictators while bullying allies. Russia putting bounties on US soldiers wasn’t worth Trump bringing up.

PROVE THIS !
You can't, because it's a vicious lie.

Every lying talking point you raise has been asked and answered.
(1) Trump has unleashed sanctions on Russia like no other president, that are crippling the Russian economy and their ability to wage war.
(2) Trump is giving military aid and tank-buster missiles, where Obama never gave Ukraine *ANY* military aid.
(3) Trump has vastly expanded oil and natural gas to Ukraine and to the rest of Europe, freeing these countries from dependence on Russia, and from Russian aggression where they have threatened Ukraine, Poland and Germany in the past. In the process of expanding production to do this, Trump has made the U.S. energy independent and a net exporter of oil for the first time in 70 years, creating millions of U.S. jobs in the process. Jobs and domestic oil production and energy independence Crazy Joe Biden has already vowed to eliminate if elected. We already see how well eliminating oil fossil-feul before there is an alternative "clean" energy source is working in California, with rolling un-announced brown-outs. Biden would spread this disaster to all 50 states.

So I think it's clear that if Vladimir Putin wants to rig an election to favor a candidate, Russia would rig it to get Biden in office, who would be a far weaker negotiator with Putin than Trump has proven to be over the last 4 years.

Senate Intel committee backs finding that Russia helped Trump

This would be the republican controlled senate.

That's crap.

1) It's sourced from the Democrat-friendly liberal media USA Today, and it shaves the facts, not citing that the Russians spent a total of about $200,000, as I've said prior, what a typical auto dealership anywhere in the U.S. spends annually on advertising, a tiny amount. Relative to the $ 2 BILLION the Hillary Clinton campaign spent in 2016 (about double the total Trump campaign spending in 2016) so the Russians' "interference" was about 1 thousandth of the Hillary campaign's warchest. Nothing.

2) More importantly, this article is from 6 months ago (April 2020), and a great amount has been revealed in the last month. That Obama's then-CIA director John Brennan completely misrepresented the facts in the unredacted documents revealed in the last month.
DNI John Ratcliffe Releases Underly...nspired Trump-Russia Collusion Narrative

Specifically [unredacted memo from John Brennan]:

That's the *LYING NARRATIVE* fronted by John Brennan.

But here's what has been revealed:


Followed by a detailed play-by-play in the article of how the Democrat conspiracy was set up and took form throughout June and July 2016.


So... well before the first FISA warrant, CIA director John Brennan himself informed President Barack Obama in July 2016 that the "Trump and Russia Collusion" narrative was completely false, that it was manufactured by the Hillary Clinton campaign, and that the Hillary campaign funded Perkins-Coie law firm, that funded Fusion GPS, that hired former MI-6 spy Christopher Steele, who solicited the false narrative against Trump directly from Russia intelligence agents (i.e., the Hillary Clinton campaign colluded with the Russian government).

And that Obama, VP Biden, chief of staff McDonaugh, national security advisor Susan Rice, FBI director James Comey, and CIA director John Brennan *ALL* knew this "Trump-Russia collusion" was completely false, that the collusion from the very beginning was sourced at every stage from the Hillary Clinton campaign, and (like FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith) they completely falsified and completely flipped the narrative to the exact opposite of what it truly was, to smear, issue unlawful FISA warrants based on false evidence, and maliciously prosecute Trump officials. They *ALL* were in on it, they all knew. The Brennan memo from July 28th tells us all that.

There won't be any indictments before the election, but at least the unredacted documents will expose the truth. If Trump is re-elected (as I see the nationwide enthusiasm for Trump resulting in his re-election) there will be prosecutions, FINALLY.
If the Biden campaign Trojan Horse somehow wins, all of it will be swept under the rug as if it was never revealed, and the full-scale destruction of America will begin. Riots in cities across all 50 states, wealth redistribution, further Covid lockdowns despite the science that advises against it (because lockdowns are a convenient means and cover for consolidating authoritarian control), open borders and a massive spike in crime, and ultimately implementing Democrat one-party control for the next 100 years. Assuming the nation survives another 10 years under Democrat-Bolshevik control.

CDC REPORT SHOWS 94% of Covid-19 DEATHS HAD CONTRIBUTING CO-MORBIDITY CONDITIONS



Another report I saw today on OAN said that as many as 130,000 (of the current 210,000 U.S. deaths) are in truth deaths caused by Pneumonia, heart disease, Influenza, cancer and other causes that actually caused their deaths. And only unrelated to their treatment, as a requirement to enter the hospital, are tested, and test positive (or after death were just believed to be positive) for Covid-19. As I've seen reported frequently, there is actually an incentive for hospitals to falsely report deaths as from Covid-19, because the federal government reimburses the hospitals for Covid deaths, that hospitals don't get any reimbursement for patients who die from some other cause.
So there is a financial incentive to falsely report deaths this way, beyond a political motivation.
I've seen multiple interviews of doctors who are angry that they were/are pressured to falsely report deaths as Covid-19, when they and their supervisors know very well these patients died of other causes.

I cited onecase in Florida a few months ago, where a 19 year old guy died in a motorcycle accident, and only after he was dead was he tested, and was positive for Covid-19. But clearly he died of fatal injuries, not from Covid-19.
Only because a reporter pushed for details of the actual cause of death in this and other cases was it shown there were thousands of fraudulently reported deaths by Covid-19 in Florida.

And also that there were tens of thousands of negative Covid-19 tests not reported, to make the positive cases appear to be a much higher ratio of positive tests in Florida than there truly were.

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https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/october-jobs-report-2020-coronavirus-pandemic

The new monthly jobs report was just announced, 638,000 jobs created, lowering national unemployment to 6.9%.

Unemployment when Barack Obama left office in Jan 2017 was 4.8%. Just imagine how easily Trump would have been able to drop it to 4.8% or lower by now, if Democrat governors in New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Oregon, Washington, and California had not locked down their states till the election (precisely to influence the election, suppressing recovery in almost half the states, with no regard for their citizens. Trump accomplished this much, with almost half the states not cooperating. And even as it is, the U.S. has less economic damage than Canada (over 7% economic drop) and the nations of Europe (all between 5% and 9% economic drop).

Looks like instead Trump will be a impeached one term loser.

And I wonder how many lives could have been saved if we had had a real leader who wasn?t lying about us turning the corner even as Covid is spiking.

Folks just got a call today from an old neighbor letting them know she tested positive for Covid after her son called saying he was really sick and Covid positive. They just all had Thanksgiving together because they believed Trump. Hate their politics but they deserved better leadership.

*SIGH*....

Welcome back to the boards, M E M. I wish your friends the best. And unless they are elderly or have some other immunodeficiency condtion, they should suffer only about two weeks of discomfort.

People aged 0-18 have about a 99.997% chance of recovery.
People 19-54 have about a 99.995% chance of recovery.
People aged 55-69 have about a 99.95% chance of recovery.
and those over 70 still have a 99.5% chance of recovery.

I've seen many news stories of people over 90 recovering and leaving the hospital, and one case a patient over 100 who made a full recovery.

As I said, I had flu symptoms for 5 weeks from March 13th to April 20th, and may or may not have had Covid-19 myself. I never got tested because for a long time testing was in short supply. When I finally contacted the Florida health department, they said that it was so long after my recovery that they said my level of antibodies had likely diminished to the point they would not be detectable by a test. Likewise my usefulness as a potential blood-serum donor.


Do you really think no one got Covid-19 at a Democrat rally, or a BLM protest or riot? That it only affects Trump supporters?
One of my favorite news stories was (and I linked it earlier in the topic) when at the peak of BLM riots in cities nationwide, in one weekend rioters burned down about 20 Covid-19 testing centers in at least 3 cities, and then as a result of their crowds, many got sick, and desperately needed the testing centers they had just burned down!
Also, in states and nations worldwide, the ones locked down actually get Covid- infected at a higher rate than those who don't. While those who don't social distance still get infected, many who take all precautions still do (including many Senators and House members of both parties, no matter how careful they are). It certainly can't be proven that not wearing a mask puts one at more risk. Even an N-95 mask is no guarantee of avoiding infection, and the space between the fibers of any other kind of mask allows Covid-19 to easily penetrate and be inhaled.

And while many Republicans are resistant to wearing a mask, I don't see where Trump himself told people to not wear a mask for Thanksgiving get-togethers. I've seen Republican and Democrat leaders both defiantly say they would be travelling to large family get-togethers for Thanksgiving. Including hypocrites like CA governor Gavin Newsom, DC mayor Muriel Bowser, Chicago mayor Lori Lightfoot, NY mayor Bill Deblasio, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, and other prominent Democrats who order lockdowns for others and then shamelessly violate their own rules.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ne...cian-to-flout-own-coronavirus-guidelines
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ght-breaking-their-own-coronavirus-rules


Not to mention virulent infected sacks of shit like virtue-signalling CNN anchor Chris Cuomo, who scolds other people for not wearing a mask, even as he goes out in public [videotaped in the act!] at the peak of his Covid-19 infection. Which just proves there's absolutely nothing that can get a Trump-hating CNN anchor fired.

I have an N-95 mask, but I honestly don't think it makes any difference. It may reduce the risk slightly, making it a slightly lesser chance of inhaling the virus. But I mostly wear a mask to be compliant and for the complacency/comfort of others, not because I think it offers any real protection.

The narrative that Trump has somehow failed the nation regarding Covid-19 is so polar opposite the truth. As I've detailed several times. With great forward thinking despite the bad advice of Fauci (NIH) and Redfield (CDC), Trump wisely put temporary bans on travel from China and from Europe. And in 2019 a year prior to the crisis, Trump secured the Southern border blocking another potential path of uncontained infection.
And Trump's trade war with China since Jan 2019 vastly decreased our economic dependency on supply from China, just before the crisis hit.
That's why we've only had about 250,000 deaths, instead of 2 million or more, as was originally predicted. With the Democrats in charge, you can bet those casualties would have been far higher, with no plan to contain it.
As Biden advisor Ron Klain freely admitted regarding Obama-era attempts to contain a similar swine flu in 2009-2010. In his words, there was absolutely no preparation by the Obama administration, and they were just "very lucky" the outbreak was not more severe. THESE are the people you would trust over Trump?!!? Be serious.
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Trump displayed remarkable leadership on fast-tracking a vaccine, like no other president (of either party, D or R) would have, so that we got a vaccine available six days after the election from at least TWO manufacturers, IN AN INCREDIBLE 8 MONTHS, so that 20 million doses will be distributed before Dec 31, and to the whole country by March or April 2021.
In 8 months.

Geez, M E M, give Trump just the SLIGHTEST bit of credit.

I listened to the audio of him talking about how it was much more deadlier than the flu. Than he publicly downplayed the threat and held super spreader events. He is an awful person that made a pandemic even deadlier.

President elect Biden: Stimulus checks in play for Covid relief

President-elect Joe Biden on Friday said that another round of coronavirus stimulus checks for U.S. families “may be still in play.

“I think it would be better if they had the $1,200 [payments to families],” Biden said when asked at a press conference to respond to criticism about a new Covid relief plan revealed this week as a starting point for the latest round of negotiations on Capitol Hill.

Biden added: “And I understand that may be still in play. But, I’m not going to comment on the specific details. The whole purpose of this is, we’ve got to make sure people aren’t thrown out of their apartments, lose their homes, are able to have unemployment insurance [that] they can continue to feed their families on as we grow back the economy.”

Canada has reserved more vaccines per capita than anyone else

Trump administration is sure there will be enough vaccine for anyone that wants it in other news. So I’m guessing there won’t be enough. Trump can’t even acknowledge the death toll.

It is sad that trump politicized a true threat to this country. How many lives could have been saved just if he had been a decent human being? Instead states got attacked for trying to act like there was a deadly highly contagious pandemic hitting us. I see today Trump refused multiple times to buy extra vaccines when he had a chance. Now he’s golfing while he tries to stay in power by throwing away election results as coronavirus deaths get higher and higher.

Posted by someone who just advocated for throwing out election results because his loser lost and still wants to stay in office. We know how you really feel about liberty g