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If she knows Dick's then she may have put 2 and 2 together.




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For the fastest man alive, Wally sure does get to these big events late. He's all the way in the fucking back!


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The body looks to be bald and in the remnants of a suit from my perspective, and Superman in particular is being held back -- could it be Luthor?

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So is there any word about what COUNTDOWN is actually going to be about?


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In this weeks LITG it said that countdown was a countdown to Identitty Crisis 2.


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The body looks to be bald and in the remnants of a suit from my perspective, and Superman in particular is being held back -- could it be Luthor?




It's Pa Kent!

...and Batman pulled the trigger!

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I don't see how being familiar with The Bat-Man's dick equals knowing his secret identity.




Things that make you say..."hmmmm...."

Well if you went to all the men in Gotham City and made them pull down their pants and you'd just happen to recognize Batman's dick hanging off of Bruce wayne you just might put two and two together!?!

It better not be Nightwing...unless it's a Earth 56 version or something.


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Right now, I'm saying either Luthor or Alfred.

Winick talks Countdown to CBR.

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Yeah, I'm working on Chapter One, as we speak, of this big ol' lead-in project for 2005, post I.C.

Chapter One is 14 pages and I'm with my comic book brothers Geoff and Bair on this one.

Wizard will run a preview from Chapter One in a future issue.

Others working on it will include Greg Rucka, Ed Benes, Judd Winick, Phil Jimenez, Ivan Reis, Jesus Sais, and Joe Bennett.

And...


It's gonna rock.




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Well, if someone who is working on it and employed by the publisher says its gonna rock, then it must do...


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Rob Kamphausen said:
  • around-since-the-silverage type characters (hal, hawkman, fate).
  • batman holding the fallen
  • superman appearing to equally want to rush in
  • the suit appears to have a blackish/blueish hue
  • note: the appearance of starfire in the background (accompanied by wally)


in addition to much of the creative staff being involved with nightwing or batman-revolving characters.

all indications point towards it being nightwing.

which is exactly why it isn't.






Or maybe they just want you to think that, and it is!

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Well, if someone who is working on it and employed by the publisher says its gonna rock, then it must do...




Rags isn't going to say its fucked and don't buy it, is he?


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This is my point.


Thing is- I can’t spell or type. I spell so badly my spell check doesn’t even know what I was trying to spell. And I have five Eisners HAHAHAHHA!! -Brian Michael Bendis
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Also, his name is Rags. What the fuck is that?


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That's his working name. It comes from a strip he drew when he was younger, called "Rags to Riches."

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By that logic, I for one am grateful he didn't start his working life drawing "Striperella".


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Aren't we all.

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rex said:
In this weeks LITG it said that countdown was a countdown to Identitty Crisis 2.




He didn't say Identity.


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I just hope that, whatever DC has planned, they don't actually call it "Crisis 2". I'm sure it's a working title, but it's pretty unoriginal.

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Jeremy said:
If she knows Dick's then she may have put 2 and 2 together.




It's not sexy when a chick is smart enough to add.



Finally, a voice of reason.

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I just found a preview of the first issue on www.suprnova.org.

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It's Stan Lee.

And the DCU will never be the same again.

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If its anything like that Stan Lee shit DC came out with a few years ago I think we all have something to be afraid of. I love "The Man" but his DC ideas were like the turds my ass spat out a half hour ago.


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Get fucked.

Stan Lee again?

You'd think after the catastrophes that were stanlee.net and Striparella they'd leave him well alone.....


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From LITG:

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PRIME BEEF

So, I get this e-mail. It could be one of the nonsense faked leaks DC are trying to put out there (to counter the true ones I usually get) but even if fiction, it's entertaining enough.

"Anyway, apparently Countdown leads into DC's major summer event, Crisis on Earth. The basic plot is that someone wants their Earth (Earth X) restored the way they remember it. The twist is that the protagonist is based on our Earth, and in our time.

"It's a place and time called Prime Time.

"20 years ago, post Crisis, the protagonist was integrated into our time and space, and has been reading comics but slowly becoming aware they were out of place and time. After reading Identity Crisis, something contained within leads to this person realising that, and they want to correct matters.

"Supposedly DC Countdown leads to the moment of awareness, and the reboot of the DCU is their point of view focused upon the heroes and how this person wants to see the DCU. For a few months, significant changes will be made to the DCU, destroying the concepts that most people believed in, but they won't be long lasting.

"Seven Soldiers is supposedly the 'real' DCU universe as we see it, and events contained within that will lead to the formation of a group that knows what is wrong with the DCU, and ultimately how to fix it.

"This forms the basis of the hypertime idea, allowing multiverses and multitimelines to coexist after the event, and Seven Soldiers will suggest the awareness of the DCU that Grant Morrison wanted before as events in SS will drop hints to the characters within about their role and how to fix the brokenness."

Now I've been told that there's a lot wrong here, the timeline doesn't work out so well and things are horribly mixed up. And "Prime Time" is not the title. But that might mean there's a gem of correctness in here... somewhere...




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I didn't realize Jeph Loeb was an Earth X resident.

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Disco pointed out that this e-mail looks like it was written by Grant Morrison, and I'd say he's right. Maybe DC asked him to come up with something to e-mail Rich Johnston to throw him off...


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Well, that sounds like utter crap.

There'll be a six issue mini that's promoted as changing everything, they'll fight a villain and someone might die setting up their resurrection next year, and things will go back the way they were after issue 6.


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I deleted this post because newsarama and millerworld both got warnings from the legal department at Wizard.

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Countdown is going to lead into Crisis on Earth which will explain how these new books come about.


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Smells craptastic!

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I like that idea... but I doubt the article is real.


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It makes sense that DC would want to emulate Marvel's success in the Ultimate line. The Ultimate line possibly doubles Marvel's circulation of some of its character concepts - eg. Avengers/ Ultimates (it wouldn't surprise me if Ultimates sells better than Avengers).

With this business model in play, Dc could potentially double sales on weaker titles like Wonder Woman or Green Lantern through an "All-Star" version.


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It makes sense that DC would want to emulate Marvel's success in the Ultimate line. The Ultimate line possibly doubles Marvel's circulation of some of its character concepts - eg. Avengers/ Ultimates (it wouldn't surprise me if Ultimates sells better than Avengers).




The Ultimates were usually the top seller for the month they came out.

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With this business model in play, Dc could potentially double sales on weaker titles like Wonder Woman or Green Lantern through an "All-Star" version.




I have always been hesitant to get into comics like Green Lantern because of all the different Green Lantern. I have never cared for Wonder Woman, but if they only have 3-4 All Star series I will get them all. Thats one of the things that I like about the Ultimate line, you can buy 3-4 books a month and know everything that is going on in that universe.


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Bingo. And everyone else will be thinking just like you.


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DC Countdown ... another Johns 80's rehash craptacular that's coasting on a lot of Internet MB hype, but will fail to deliver the goods.

Can't wait to avoid it.

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PRIME BEEF

So, I get this e-mail. It could be one of the nonsense faked leaks DC are trying to put out there (to counter the true ones I usually get) but even if fiction, it's entertaining enough.

"Anyway, apparently Countdown leads into DC's major summer event, Crisis on Earth. The basic plot is that someone wants their Earth (Earth X) restored the way they remember it. The twist is that the protagonist is based on our Earth, and in our time.

"It's a place and time called Prime Time.

"20 years ago, post Crisis, the protagonist was integrated into our time and space, and has been reading comics but slowly becoming aware they were out of place and time. After reading Identity Crisis, something contained within leads to this person realising that, and they want to correct matters.

"Supposedly DC Countdown leads to the moment of awareness, and the reboot of the DCU is their point of view focused upon the heroes and how this person wants to see the DCU. For a few months, significant changes will be made to the DCU, destroying the concepts that most people believed in, but they won't be long lasting.

"Seven Soldiers is supposedly the 'real' DCU universe as we see it, and events contained within that will lead to the formation of a group that knows what is wrong with the DCU, and ultimately how to fix it.

"This forms the basis of the hypertime idea, allowing multiverses and multitimelines to coexist after the event, and Seven Soldiers will suggest the awareness of the DCU that Grant Morrison wanted before as events in SS will drop hints to the characters within about their role and how to fix the brokenness."

Now I've been told that there's a lot wrong here, the timeline doesn't work out so well and things are horribly mixed up. And "Prime Time" is not the title. But that might mean there's a gem of correctness in here... somewhere...







Weird.

A few years ago when they were coming up with that bullshit Post-Crisis-Crisis nonsense, I posted something similar to this idea at the DC boards.

My idea was to just have the DCU become aware of their pre-Crisis reality and how their current fucked up continuity/reality would result in another Crisis-type event as all the contradictory crap of the 20 years was unstainable to the DCU and might make an interesting story if you actually acknowledged it all.

Of course since then, i beleive Supreme did this concept already.

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