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so, what do you see happening in the worlds of comic books for 2005? new titles? new crossovers? book cancellations? character revivals? new companies?



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The All-star line from DC will be a great success, just like the Ultimate line was.
Marvel will finally come to their senses and take JMS off of Spider-man, and somehow retconning the last year of crap.


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Marvel will find a way to make its mainstream "Fantastic Four" series even more like the upcoming cinema bomb. Mark Waid will quit once again in protest.

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Waid is already leaving FF.


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The upcoming comic book series my friend and I want to get published will be delayed due to writer's block on my part, and laziness on his.


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The All-star line from DC will be a great success, just like the Ultimate line was.



Doubt it. DC zombies will never allow the freedom of re-interpretation Marvel zombies do.

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Marvel will finally come to their senses and take JMS off of Spider-man, and somehow retconning the last year of crap.



You suck. And he's been on Amazing for over two years now.

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The all-star lineup will bring over Ultimate fans to DC and it will also bring in fans of the Batman movie into comics.


JMS didn't suck at first. I'm referring to the whole Gwen Stacy being a whore storyline.
and you swallow.


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The all-star lineup will bring over Ultimate fans to DC and it will also bring in fans of the Batman movie into comics.



I'll take that bet.

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JMS didn't suck at first. I'm referring to the whole Gwen Stacy being a whore storyline.



You see it one way, I see it another. And that's a whole other thread.

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and you swallow.



Touché.

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No matter what the companies do, fans will bitch and argue about constantly on messageboards. Before the books even come out.

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The All-star line from DC will be a great success, just like the Ultimate line was.



Doubt it. DC zombies will never allow the freedom of re-interpretation Marvel zombies do.




An odd statement considering that DC zombies are far more used to reinterpretation than Marvel zombies are.

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Waid is already leaving FF.




AHA! I WAS RIGHT!!!!!!!!


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I see Seven Soldiers of Victory achieving nothing other than some decent sales.


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John Byrne will continue to say stupid things whil ehis Doom Patrol declines in sales with each month, leading to its inevitable cancellation.

The Legion reboot will be a moderate success but most fans will still pine for Levitz/Giffen days.

The Fantastic Four movie will be good. And I will see it the day it opens.


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The new X-Men movie will be announced at the end of the year. Marvel will disregard the "definitive" Phoenix story that "Phoenix: Endsong" is supposed to be and bring her back again and cash in on the movie.

Grant Morrison will kick ass in SSoV and All Stars Superman.

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An odd statement considering that DC zombies are far more used to reinterpretation than Marvel zombies are.



And we fight it every step of the way.

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Who's fighting Elseworlds? Who fought when Julie Schwartz began the Silver Age? Who's fighting Vertigo? DC's characters have had far more reinterpretations than Marvel's. Now, granted, there's a lot of bitching these days everytime something new comes down the pike (or something old gets brought back out), but in all honesty, DC's fans are well used to reinterpretations.

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Who's fighting Elseworlds?



True, though Elseworlds doesn't really sell.

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Who fought when Julie Schwartz began the Silver Age?



True, but that was a loooooong time ago.

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Who's fighting Vertigo?



Different line. Doesn't count.

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Now, granted, there's a lot of bitching these days everytime something new comes down the pike (or something old gets brought back out)...



That's what I'm talking about. The fans who bitch about every single nuance in every single re-interpretation. The ones who can't figure out if Superman should be hardcore invincible or a fallen Christ figure. The ones who complain if the Waynes are shown escorting their son out of the wrong movie before they reach the alley. Those guys drive every vision to the ground, and I'm thinking this will be no different.

I could be wrong. There's always that X factor, but I've stopped counting on it. I just hope I'll enjoy the issues I can get.

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Who's fighting Elseworlds?



True, though Elseworlds doesn't really sell.




Good Elseworlds do. Red Son, The Nail, Gotham by Gaslight.

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Who fought when Julie Schwartz began the Silver Age?



True, but that was a loooooong time ago.





But it began the process that we have today, and thus remains relevant to the topic.

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Who's fighting Vertigo?



Different line. Doesn't count.




Ah, contrare. Vertigo began life as multiple titles that reinterpreted several DC characters. Swamp Thing, Sandman, Animal Man, Doom Patrol, Black Orchid, Kid Eternity, Shade, the Changing Man, and many more have all been reinterpreted through the Vertigo lens. The process continues today, although it's not as prominent.

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Now, granted, there's a lot of bitching these days everytime something new comes down the pike (or something old gets brought back out)...



That's what I'm talking about. The fans who bitch about every single nuance in every single re-interpretation. The ones who can't figure out if Superman should be hardcore invincible or a fallen Christ figure. The ones who complain if the Waynes are shown escorting their son out of the wrong movie before they reach the alley. Those guys drive every vision to the ground, and I'm thinking this will be no different.





I disagree. I think this is the opening stages for DC to do exactly what many of us have suggested here before. Use the multiple franchise titles to appeal to several segments of their fanbase, rather than just one segment. The new line ensures that continuity minded fans don't have to worry with this, and thus have nothing to bitch about.

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I could be wrong. There's always that X factor, but I've stopped counting on it. I just hope I'll enjoy the issues I can get.




And that's what we should all try to do.

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The all-star lineup will bring over Ultimate fans to DC and it will also bring in fans of the Batman movie into comics.




The Spiderman movie didn't help sales of the Ultimate or regular Spiderman series. Same with the X-Men movie.


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If only MOTA was here to show us the sales figures.




The Spider-man movie got me interested in comics again. So thats at least one.
And stop pissing on my predictions.


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Stan Lee will invent the worlds first fully functioning flying car.

Because he's a fucking genius.

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Stan Lee will finally die.


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Stan Lee will invent the worlds first fully functioning flying car.

Because he's a fucking genius.





No, he'll just take the credit for inventing it.

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He'll make a general description ("it's a car that flies") and give it someone else so they can do it and he can take all the credit.

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If only MOTA was here





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HULK SAY HULK COMIC IS BEST IN 2005! HULK SAY HULK IS ALWAYS BEST COMIC!

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Who's fighting Elseworlds?



True, though Elseworlds doesn't really sell.





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The All-star line from DC will be a great success, just like the Ultimate line was.



Doubt it. DC zombies will never allow the freedom of re-interpretation Marvel zombies do.
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Brains, I smell brains! Are there truly anybody who qualifies as a DC/Marvel zombie left these days? Once it became so expensive to collect either companies entire output in a month, didn't most of the zombies have to pick & choose?

I'll do a longshot prediction & say DC actually pulls ahead in sales.


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The ALL STAR line will not be as big as the ULTIMATE line. The brains that follow DC comics, and they like to think they are the intellectual comic geeks, will find out that Batman & Superman are just as over used a Wolverine. Well maybe they are smart enough to figure this out. I'm shocked these DC nuts can find their butts with both hands. In the end Marvel will kick DC's ass not because they tell better stories, as they have over the years, but because they have better characters as well. NUFF SAID!

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I also hope the "yellow" sun does give Superman cancer. Ever since DC turned it's back on the Byrne character,,, what the hell?????


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Some of my comics predictions for 2005:
New supervillains will debut in Spider-Man and Robin late this summer
Runaways will stop publication in November
Two of Marvel's writers will be fired
Harley Quinn will try to kill the Joker in a 4-episode story arc

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I foresee myself masturbating to Michael Turner's Wonder Woman or Supergirl.....multiple times. He draws thems wimmens hot.

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More of my comic book predicions for 2005:
John Byrne will get in a major public feud with Alan Moore
Anime comics will continue to grow in popularity
Warren Ellis will be sued

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