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It seems that people who own dogs like control. They want an animal who will basically be a servant to them. Dogs are basically animals that can easily kill you, but the owner ("master") gets to dominate and train to be "obedient."

On the flipside, cats can't really be controlled or trained. Having a cat is like having a kid. You have to learn their personality, mood, and they develop their own habits. If you don't want them doing something, you have to discourage them by removing the temptation. If you don't want them getting into something you have to put up a barrier.

Do you think that the type of animal reflects on the owner?


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I've always seen it as dogs being more of a companion animal. They are much more dependant on their owners and need more attention than cats. Cats are less of a companion. They like to be by themselves and usually don't like people. They are also evil allergy causing spawns of satan.


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I just wanna say I hate cats, they are lazy, only want to do something when they feel like it, wail worse than dogs (in my opinion), and don't care about anyone but themselves...just like my high school kids!

Dogs are always happy to see you, demand attention but ever so sweetly, love to cuddle and play, work hard to learn tricks and stuff, and still love ya no matter what. It's not about control...its about preference.


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I fucking hate dogs! Needy, filthy bastards. Seriously, who the fuck wants a slobering creature around that runs at you when you walk through the door and follows you about the house? I hate them to the point that if I go to a dog owner's house and they don't either lock the mutt up or put it out I will leave immediately.


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I fucking hate dogs! Needy, filthy bastards. Seriously, who the fuck wants a slobering creature around that runs at you when you walk through the door and follows you about the house? I hate them to the point that if I go to a dog owner's house and they don't either lock the mutt up or put it out I will leave immediately.


I only do that if they shed alot or if they are huge beasts. Little dogs don't bother me.

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but if you're getting a little dog, why not just get a cat.
I can't stand little yapping dogs.


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My dog is 80 pounds and I have to brush him every couple of days to keep the shedding to a minimum.

Another thing I like about dogs. You can do things with them. When was the last time you say someone walk a cat or play catch with it?


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rex....what kind of dog do you have?

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My mother-in-law has the most obnoxious hell-beast ever to walk the earth. The thing is fucking enormous (at only 6 months) and insists on jumping on you and licking you (and getting so fucking excited that it pisses all over you). Of course, being that she is my boyfriend's mom, I get subjected to this creature on a regular basis (and she refuses to put it away when we're over...'Missy jus t loves Dan! She gets so exited when he comes over! Awwww, just look at her!).


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What about people who have both?

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I fucking hate dogs! Needy, filthy bastards. Seriously, who the fuck wants a slobering creature around that runs at you when you walk through the door and follows you about the house? I hate them to the point that if I go to a dog owner's house and they don't either lock the mutt up or put it out I will leave immediately.




That's an owner problem, not the dog's problem. If you ever visited my house (and you'd be welcome anytime) my dogs leave people alone unless they want them to. If you don't want them to pay atten they'll got lay down or go in the other room.


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I fucking HATE dogs.

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Jake you ever hear the myth about how cats like to suffocate newborn babies.

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That is a myth.

We can't be bothered with newborn babies.

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rex....what kind of dog do you have?




He's half rottweiler half something I can't remember.

He looks like full rottweiler but almost all black.


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I've had both cats and dogs throughout my life, but I've been a cat person since I moved out on my own. That's mainly a space and maintenance issue, tho all the leases I've ever had have forbidden dogs.

I love dogs... they love back. Their devotion is their best trait. The biggest negative in my book for dogs is the attention they need. I just housesat my Mom's place for two days, and my sister's 110lb. Pit Bull mix thinks he's a lapdog. Seriously, I almost had to crate him to get a decent night's sleep. By way of comparison, my two cats were perfectly fine with only seeing me a half hour each of the last two days... their water and food was filled, their litter dredged, what else do they need ME for.

One of these days I'll have a big fenced yard and time to devote to a dog, but for now my boyz are the feline variety.

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Jake you ever hear the myth about how cats like to suffocate newborn babies.




No, it turns out it's little trolls who are trying to quit smoking and make wagers on whether or not people can navagate the ledges of tall buildings.

Ask Drew Barrymore.

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Oh and the Ultimate Jaburg's cat guy may b my cat cause it ain't me.

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Jake you ever hear the myth about how cats like to suffocate newborn babies.




No, it turns out it's little trolls who are trying to quit smoking and make wagers on whether or not people can navagate the ledges of tall buildings.

Ask Drew Barrymore.




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That was funny.

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I don't care for dogs, I'm a cat person. In fact, we were kind of talking about this yesterday. One of the women on the stage team (at my church) has this HUGE Great Dane and the thing's gentle, despite his deep bark and growl. He's a trained and certified therapy dog and can easily bowl any of you guys over. I'm 5' 6" and the thing came up past my waist.

Anyway, he just had surgury so she had to bring him to church yesterday and today because of the stiches. He kept to himself and behaved well. She left food in the car (while he went along for a ride with us) and he didn't touch it. He didn't try to lick me, although he did try and get his face really close to mine.

That's what I dont' like. I don't like it when dogs lick, nor do I like the fact that they'll jump on you. I'm comfortable around the things, as long as their not known fighters/killers like pitbuls, rotwilers, etc. A friend of mine has 3 pitbuls and they are HUGE. Not as big as the Dane, but very close in size. They were running around the house while we were over there, after dinner, and this is a small house. One of them put her head on my leg when she came over to me. I didn't make it a point to pet them, due to being uncomfortable around them.

Cats, on the other hand, will follow you around if you play with them when their kittens. They'll snuggle up to you and they'll curl up on your lap, sleep and purr for you. You can play with a cat. We used to have 2 cats, got them when they were kittens. For some reason one of them hated everyone but my older brother, where as the other was loved us all. My mom wouldn't let us keep them in our apartment so they stayed in the room in the basement and I'd go down there and sit with them, watch tv, for a bit. I could hold Fluffy in my arms, on her back like a baby, and she'd fall asleep; she loved it. It was so cute.

Today when I got to church, I saw the dog was back, but downstairs with his owner. I knelt down to tie my shoes (after they came in) and he kept sticking his face up to me, getting too close for my comfort. I finaly had to stand up and put my foot up on the edge of the table in order to tie it, to keep the dog from trying to kiss me, or whatever he was doing.


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That was funny.


Uschi could post a blank screen and you would think it's great cause you are so blindly in Love.









not that I blame you.......I hear Uschi likes to play with her puschi.

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shouldn't atheism have been "i don't believe this shit?"


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I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to speaking IM or Text Messaging

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Well, I've been to the local sci-fi con round these parts more than a few times.

Ya tend to pick up a little nerd here and there after awile.

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I'm comfortable around the things, as long as their not known fighters/killers like pitbuls, rotwilers, etc. A friend of mine has 3 pitbuls and they are HUGE. Not as big as the Dane, but very close in size.




Actually, rotwilers are pretty docile. They're trained to be mean for guard duties and such. My brother has one as well as three kids. The youngest is only 1, so she can't really be allowed near him, but the five year old can ride the dog like a pony (it's a big dog, even for rotwilers). The only thing my brother has to worry about is the knocking the kids over. But that can be taken care of in training.

Honestly, I'm an animal person, period. Mostly had dogs and fish growing up. Also have had hampsters, a parakeet, a turtle, and a couple of frogs as a kid. My mom was not a cat person, but we wound up with one when a stray had kittens under our house when I was in high school. My mother totally changed her outlook on cats and treated it a helluva lot better than my brother and me. (She actually took back cat food that the cat didn't like. My mom never did any shit like that before) But I've always had friends and relatives with cats.

I've found that many of the personality traits that people associate with only one species has been displayed in the other as well. For example, my aunt had the needest fucking cats ever. The were always in your face if you wouldn't pet them, the would knock over water bowls and only drink from water running from a fawcet (which meant that you had to stop whatever it was that you were doing to turn it on and off for them), and demanded 100% of your attention. At the same time, she owned a dog who all you had to do for him was fill his food and water bowls and let him in and out of the house. He took care of himself beyond that. He'd come when you called to pet him, but didn't demand that attention. Truthfully, he was a very solitary, independent animal.

The intelligence of an animal also seems to vary based on each individual. For instance, the pet my family had the longest was a mutt named Rambo ('cuz that's what the people who owned him first had already named him, and my brother wasn't smart enough to give him another name). He was a yard dog that we originally had tied up with a rope (no fence). He hated cats with a passion. They would climb on my mother's car (probably a good reason why she wasn't a cat fan) and get to just the edge of his rope and sit while he went crazy trying to figure out how to get to them. Well, a guy who lived two houses over was a jackass that apparenlty didn't like dogs as he tried to poison one of our neighbor's dogs and kept cutting our dog's rope and calling the pound. My brother and I came home several times with a city pound truck parked all "Stake-out" like next to our house. But our dog, who hadn't been trained beyond the "sit" command, wouldn't leave the yard or go far enough for the dog catcher to tell that the line was cut. We wound up getting a chain that happened to be twice as long as the ropes we'd been using. The cats of another neighbor (who was also a serious jackass, by the way) came around and sat in their usual places. They then proceeded to get their asses thoroughly whooped by a pissed off dog with a longer chain. They never climbed up on my mom's car after that.


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Rottweilers are not that hard to train, you just have to be persistent. Like I said earlier, my dog is half rottweiler. What we did was keep it in a kennel every night for the first two years. Now its extremely tame and is very good around my 4 and 5 year old nephews. He is also very protective of them. If someone has an out of control dog, its the owners fault.


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Oddly enough, I've noticed that some of the most protective dogs (at least in my experience) are the smaller, indoor dogs. My mom had a daschund when I was really young that drew blood from my uncle because he made an unexpected, quick move to pick me up that the dog took as an attack against me. Of course, this was the same dog that my mom hid in her oversized purse when she went to the grocery store.


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I also have a small dog that is very protective. If she gets nervous and their are people she doesn't know around, she will bite who ever gets between me and her. I usually have to put her in a bedroom when some one is over. She has even bitten me a couple times when she gets really nervous.


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If a dog bit me and it drew blood....big or small....I would have to either kill it....or at the very least bite it back and draw blood to even up the score.

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