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 Originally Posted By: Grimm

well, one thing's consistent so far, great creature designs and effects. the spiderbitch is suitably creepy and I dig the hooded robot drones.


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I don't like the Rhino head dudes.. with their helmets on, they look like Sontarans, whom I liked... but, the Rhino head dudes just plain look silly.

If they had dinosaur heads, now that would have been pretty cool.


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 Originally Posted By: Prometheus


Cunty, I'm not sure what the Tate season will be like. But, I sincerely doubt they'll play the entire thing for laughs.



She is currently the "big thing" in comedy, which is obviously the reason they picked her, to try and bring in more fans.
They wont be able to help themselves, and I bet she will make sure she gets to be "funny".......her definition, not mine!

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Who is the greatest Doctor?

If its anyone other than THE Baker, then this vote is rigged!

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Okay so how does this Time War thing work anyway? I've noticed that it's been referenced by various characters on the show beyond the Doctor. So it was somehow a recordable historical event yet there appears to be no chance of the Doctor bumping into anyone else time travelling from his planet. Whatever happened in the Time War also seems to have erased all these Time Lords. Is there anything that explains this parodox or is it one of those just don't think about things?


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 Originally Posted By: Beardguy57
I don't like the Rhino head dudes.. with their helmets on, they look like Sontarans, whom I liked... but, the Rhino head dudes just plain look silly.

If they had dinosaur heads, now that would have been pretty cool.




they were too small. big heads, small bodies looks silly. they should have been massively huge. similar to the way Mcfarlane used to draw the Hulk.

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The Judoon action figures have been just released btw. Also released: Jones, Doc with glasses, witch from the Shakespeare episode plus the very first wave seems to have been rereleased: Cassandra, Moxx, regeration 2 pack & Sycorax. Fun stuff & the first wave was near impossable to find.


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The episode where the Doctor fights the Daleks on a space station where bizarre game shows are filmed was on PBS tonight.. have to wait till next Sunday to see the end.. already saw it, but my boyfriend hadn't.. he wants to see how the Doctor regenerated into the current Doctor.. I thought it was a very cool transformation, myself.


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 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
Okay so how does this Time War thing work anyway? I've noticed that it's been referenced by various characters on the show beyond the Doctor. So it was somehow a recordable historical event yet there appears to be no chance of the Doctor bumping into anyone else time travelling from his planet. Whatever happened in the Time War also seems to have erased all these Time Lords. Is there anything that explains this parodox or is it one of those just don't think about things?


Well, the beauty of The Time War from a creative standpoint is you don't really have to explain or justify the changes or inconsistencies between this new series and the old one. That's probably why it's never been fully explored. However, from what I've gathered from it, the battle between the Time Lords and the Daleks was so fierce, it was beginning to rupture time itself. When The Doctor did whatever the Doctor did to stop it...the result destroyed Gallifrey, the Dalek Empire, and practically erased every Time Lord from having ever been. Except The Doctor. Yet, the paradox of them being remembered as having existed remains. Kind of messed up, I know.

I found this a couple of weeks back. It's the original proposal Russel T Davies turned in for the new Doctor Who...

  • "Meet The Doctor" © Russell T Davies

    When the Doctor came to Earth – to track down the Nestene Consciousness and its plastic servants, the Autons – he had no intention of finding a human companion. He’d had fellow travellers alongside him before, of course, and most of them human. His favourite species! But that was in the old days, when the universe seemed young and fresh and more inclined to friendly gestures.

    The universe, since then, had changed. At least for the Doctor.

    There had been a War, the Great Time War between the Daleks and the Time Lords. There had been two Time Wars before this – the skirmish between the Halldons and the Eternals, and then the brutal slaughter of the Omnicraven Uprising – and on both occasions, the Doctor’s people had stepped in to settle the matter. The Time Lords had a policy of nin-interference in the affairs of the universe, but on a higher level, in affairs of the Time Vortex, they assumed discreetly the role of protectors. They were the self-appointed keepers of the peace. Until forced to fight.

    Now, the story of the Great (and final) Time War is hard to piece together, because so little survived. Certainly, both had been testing each others strength for many, many years. The Daleks had threatened the Time Lord High Council before, by trying to replace its members with Dalek duplicates. And one of the Dalek Puppet Emperors had openly declared his hostility. Though perhaps the Daleks’ wrath was justifiable – they had been provoked! At one point in their history, the Time Lords had actually sent the Doctor back in time, to prevent the creation of the Daleks. An act of genocide! The Time Lords fired the first shot – though in their defence, they took this course of action because they had foreseen a time when the Daleks would overrun all civilized life and become the dominant life-form in the universe.

    Some tried to find a peaceful solution. While it’s hard to find precise records of these events, it’s said that under the Act of Master Restitution, President Romana opened a peace treaty with the Daleks. Others claim that the Etra Prime Incident began the escalation of events. But whatever the cause – and its almost certain that the full story has yet to be uncovered – the terrible War began. The Time Lords reached back into their own history, to assemble a fleet of Bowships, Black Hole Carriers and N-Forms; the Daleks unleashed the full might of the Deathsmiths of Goth, and launched an awesome fleet into the Vortex, led by the Emperor himself.

    The War raged, but for most species in the universe, life continued as normal. The War was fought in the Vortex, and beyond that, in the Ultimate Void, beyond the eyes and ears of ordinary creatures. The Lesser Species lived in ignorance. If a planet found its history subtle changing – perhaps distorting and rewriting itself under the pressures of the rupturing Vortex – then its people were part of that change, and perceived nothing to be wrong. Only the Higher Species – those further up the evolutionary ladder – saw what was happening. The Forest of Cheem gazed upon the bloodshed, and wept. The Nestene Consciousness lost all of its planets, and found itself mutating under temporal stress. The Greater Animus perished and its Carsenome Walls fell into dust. And it is said that the Eternals themselves watched, and despaired of this reality, and fled their hallowed halls, never to be seen again…

    Years passed, as the mighty armies clashed. And then, silence. No one knows exactly what happened in the final battle. And no one knows how it came to end. All that is known is that one man strode from the wreckage, one man walked free from the ruins of Gallifrey and Skaro. The Time Lord called the Doctor. And his hearts were heavy as he boarded his ship once more, and took to the skies, to escape everything he had just seen; everything he had just done…

    He is alone and thinks, somehow, that he deserves this. And as he wanders on, he decides that no one should stand beside him. He’s got no room, on board his TARDIS. He is a traveler, and needs no other.

    But then he finds himself in the cellar of a London shop at closing time, and he grabs the hand of an Earthling called Rose Tyler, and looks into her eyes, and all those resolutions go out of the window! The journey goes on, with a human at his side, and who knows where it will end…

    And far away, across the universe, on the planet Crafe Tec Heydra, one side of a mountain carries carvings and hieroglyphs, crude representations of an invisible War. The artwork shows two races clashing, one metal, one flesh; a fearsome explosion; and a solitary survivor walking from the wreckage. Solitary? Perhaps not. Under this figure, a phrase has been scratched in the stone, which translates as: you are not alone…

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 Originally Posted By: Beardguy57
I thought it was a very cool transformation, myself.


Agreed, Jerry. One of the best regenerations ever, in terms of effects, pacing, setting, and pathos. \:noice\:


Actually, the size of the Judoon didn't bother me. I thought it was pretty damn good, overall...

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Thanks for posting that proposal Prometheus. That actually works for me as to how some know about it & some don't.


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The Satin Pit playset is a preorder item but the other figures are out now. What an odd choice for a playset btw, I really like how Character Options is handling the new series. It's not just a bunch of Daleks & maybe whoever the current Doc is.


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The Satin Pit playset


I prefer the Velvet Planet playset.

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Why is it, after almost forty-five years, I still don't have the ability to go out and buy all ten Doctors as figures or statues? Why? I mean, fuck me...there's GOT to be a market for that shit by now...

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You could have.

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 Originally Posted By: Prometheus
Why is it, after almost forty-five years, I still don't have the ability to go out and buy all ten Doctors as figures or statues? Why? I mean, fuck me...there's GOT to be a market for that shit by now...


I highly recommend the talking Tom Baker as 4 th Doctor figure with talking K- 9.

The Doctor says about 4 phrases when you push the button on his back, and K - 9 says 2 phrases when you push the button on his back. I posted a photo of the two with my Star Trek figures a while back......


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 Originally Posted By: Prometheus
Why is it, after almost forty-five years, I still don't have the ability to go out and buy all ten Doctors as figures or statues? Why? I mean, fuck me...there's GOT to be a market for that shit by now...

Being that America/Canada still doesnt have what is viewed as a big enough audience, merchandise will always be sparse.

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Wow, thanks for posting that Pro. I was unaware of much of that. \:noice\:

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Well, thanks guys. But, I KNOW about the entire current line of merchandise. I'm talking about a single company (i.e. Four Horsemen, DC Direct, Bowen, etc.) putting out a line dedicated to the entire history of the series....not just ANOTHER variation on Eccleston and bloody Tennant.

And, that $150 Hartnell statue looks nothing like him, and somewehat zombified. They must be out of their fucking minds to charge that much.

Jerry, I have the talking Tom Baker and K-9, still in its box in my closet. My wife gave it to me when we were still dating.

I also have an old Dapol 7th Doctor "figure" (and I use that loosely, as it resembles a slim chunk of plastic, seemingly painted by a five-year-old on a caffeine rush), as well as a 9th Doctor figure.

I just thought with the success of this new series, I could finally have my wish... \:\(

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 Originally Posted By: Glacier16
Wow, thanks for posting that Pro. I was unaware of much of that. \:noice\:


You talking about the RTD pitch on the Time War and The Doctor? No prob, man. Hell, I didn't even know you kept up with the show... \:noice\:

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Indeed, just not to the extent that you all do. Pretty much only what they have shown on Sci-Fi.

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Ahhh, gotcha.

Well, if you want to know more, simply go read the first post in this thread... \:noice\:

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 Originally Posted By: Prometheus
Well, thanks guys. But, I KNOW about the entire current line of merchandise. I'm talking about a single company (i.e. Four Horsemen, DC Direct, Bowen, etc.) putting out a line dedicated to the entire history of the series....not just ANOTHER variation on Eccleston and bloody Tennant.

And, that $150 Hartnell statue looks nothing like him, and somewehat zombified. They must be out of their fucking minds to charge that much.

Jerry, I have the talking Tom Baker and K-9, still in its box in my closet. My wife gave it to me when we were still dating.

I also have an old Dapol 7th Doctor "figure" (and I use that loosely, as it resembles a slim chunk of plastic, seemingly painted by a five-year-old on a caffeine rush), as well as a 9th Doctor figure.

I just thought with the success of this new series, I could finally have my wish... \:\(


Glad you got the talking Doctor and K- 9! It's easily the best Dr. Who toy ever!

I do not like anything Dapol except the TARDIS I got from them. It's about 7 or 8 inches tall. Detail is very good!

The Dapol figures themselves look more like those tiny HO railroad figures.. you know, the ones with almost no facial details!

The Hartnell statue is very disappointing. I would not want it even if I could have it for free. Detail on it is as you said.

If someone could manufacture 8" or 9" Dr Who figures that were at least as good as the 9" Star Trek figures, I would buy them.


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The first pic from the upcoming 2007 Christmas episode, Tennant and Kylie Minogue...


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The Shakespeare Code was on tonight.. it was okay. Kinda dumb in some places, though.

Noted were several references to Harry Potter in tonight's episode.

Cute.


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I like Martha, though. Hot!!

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Been catching up on Who this weekend. I've had the whole series downloaded but couldn't get interested enough to watch them. The Lazarus Experiment was pretty good. Humans trying to regenerate like Timelords. 42 was good too. Nothing to get too worked up over, but enjoyable.

I just got through watching Human Nature and The Family of Blood and have to say that these two impressed me the most. It's solid, classic Sci-Fi about human nature. It really reminded me of Alan Moore's For the Man Who Has Everything. I also like that they're bringing out the darker elements of the Doctor as shown by his 'punishment' for the family at the end.

The show seems to have picked up. Hopefully the rest of the season doesn't take a nose dive. If they can keep this going, I might actually have to buy this DVD set when it comes out.


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Blink just proves that Steven Moffat understands Doctor Who and the possibilities it opens up a million times more than Davies.


whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

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Okay, just watched the last three episodes. I was actually enjoying them. The different take on the Master was good, but not what I'd want as a permanent counter-point to this Doctor. But I was actually digging the story until.............

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT GODDAMN PETER PAN CLIMAX?! Clap real hard if you want the Doctor to live. Bullshit! Davies, how about reading a fucking book to understand how stories are supposed to work? For fuck's sake, all he can ever do is overload a story so much that he has to pull some deus ex machina bullshit to clean up his own mess. For fuck sake, it's the series one finale all over again. I'll be glad when that douche bag is off the show.


whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

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Just wanted to show off my new avatar in this thread..


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Yes, cause of course it wouldnt be on the posts you have already made in this thread now would it!

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SPOILERS/Season Three Discussion (still upcoming on Sci-Fi)











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I just got through watching Human Nature and The Family of Blood and have to say that these two impressed me the most. It's solid, classic Sci-Fi about human nature. It really reminded me of Alan Moore's For the Man Who Has Everything.


Nice! I never thought of that. It's actually based off of a Doctor Who novel by the same name. In the book, it's McCoy instead of Tennant. But, you're right. It was a great, old-school Who.

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I also like that they're bringing out the darker elements of the Doctor as shown by his 'punishment' for the family at the end.


Fucking chills. Loved it.

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Blink just proves that Steven Moffat understands Doctor Who and the possibilities it opens up a million times more than Davies.


Undeniably. \:noice\:

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Okay, just watched the last three episodes. I was actually enjoying them. The different take on the Master was good, but not what I'd want as a permanent counter-point to this Doctor.


Actually, I dug the shit out of him (as you can see by my avatar). I don't know. I don't want to discuss the details too much until it's aired on Sci-Fi. No reason to spoil anything.

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WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT GODDAMN PETER PAN CLIMAX?! Clap real hard if you want the Doctor to live. Bullshit! Davies, how about reading a fucking book to understand how stories are supposed to work? For fuck's sake, all he can ever do is overload a story so much that he has to pull some deus ex machina bullshit to clean up his own mess. For fuck sake, it's the series one finale all over again. I'll be glad when that douche bag is off the show.


Yeah, it burns, doesn't it? Every single thing EXCEPT 'Jesus Doctor' was fucking awesome. That one part didn't ruin anything for me, but it certainly stuck out like a sore thumb... \:nono\:







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I wonder if we'll see more of the spheres (chocglafane?). To me that made the series 3 finale very unsettling. Got to admit that I really enjoyed the build up & liked how it all panned out in the end. (except the whole fate of the spheres deal) Yeah it was deus ex machina time but the characters had to go through so much to get there. Rose only had to look into the heart of the Tardis while poor Martha had to travel around on her own for a year after averything goes kablewey.

It was neat & fitting to hear the Scissors Sister's "I can't decide" in the finale btw. There was also a song in the second part that sounded familiar but I couldn't place it.


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Okay, just watched the last three episodes. I was actually enjoying them. The different take on the Master was good, but not what I'd want as a permanent counter-point to this Doctor.


Actually, I dug the shit out of him (as you can see by my avatar). I don't know. I don't want to discuss the details too much until it's aired on Sci-Fi. No reason to spoil anything.


I didn't dislike it. I just thought that you didn't need an over-the-top Master for and over-the-top Doctor. He'd been perfect against Colin Baker or Peter Davidson.


whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
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 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
Rose only had to look into the heart of the Tardis while poor Martha had to travel around on her own for a year after averything goes kablewey.


That's another thing that pissed me off about that. Why the hell did they have to go through all that bullshit when, in the end, all Jack did was shoot the damn paradox machine with a fucking machine gun? They couldn't have done that to begin with?


whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
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