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I completely agree with Vecsey. I can't fuckin' believe they are even talking to him, asshat Boras there or no. A-Rod is a great player, but he's fuckin' demanding baby with a ridiculously frail ego. All those HRs just aren't enough to deal with his demands and I still think the Yankees should tell him to go fuck himself.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/15/sports/baseball/15vecsey.html

Sports of The Times

Yanks Should Treat Rodriguez the Way He Treated Them

Kathy Willens/Associated Press
Scott Boras, with Alex Rodriguez in 2003, announced that Rodriguez was opting out of his contract during Game 4 of the World Series.

By GEORGE VECSEY
Published: November 15, 2007

Let’s think this through.


On Baseball: Weeks Later, Rodriguez Comes to His Senses (November 15, 2007)
Rodriguez Talks to Yankees Without Agent (November 15, 2007)

Even if Alex Rodriguez prostrates himself in front of the Yankees’ owners — which he just might have done yesterday — that does not mean they have to take him back.

Even if he fires his agent, Scott Boras, or plays him in a cage, that does not mean the Yankees should want A-Rod back.

Rodriguez had a monster season, but the Yankees could not get out of the first round of the playoffs, yet again. He is an enigmatic figure in their clubhouse, clearly not a player who improves his team.

This is the Yankees’ big chance to take whatever money they had penciled in for him and spend it on pitching and power and first base and a reasonable approximation of Scott Brosius at third base.

The Yankees’ management was cold-blooded about Joe Torre, making him twist for days, then finally forcing him to fly down to Florida to try to save his job. They should be no less cold-blooded toward Rodriguez.

He dumped on the Yankees and on his business by passively allowing Boras to drop An A-Bomb! From A-Rod! — John Sterling’s cloying call, used 54 times last season — during the final game of the World Series. The midnight bombshell was that Rodriguez was opting out of his contract with the Yankees, as was his legal right.

Fifty ways to leave your ball club — with apologies to Paul Simon. Let Scott handle it.

That’s what agents are for. I remember a beautiful evening in Seattle, when Rodriguez was dumped at second base and crumpled down, holding his knee. A few rows from the field, a clearly distraught man leapt to his feet and made his way to the railing. Why, it was Scott Boras, no doubt worried that his client’s impending free agency had just caved in.

As it turned out, A-Rod missed a few games and resumed his slippery path out of town, telling people in Seattle it wasn’t about the money, a tale he has subsequently told people in Texas and now the Bronx.

The Steinbrenners graciously allowed Rodriguez and his wife, Cynthia, to pay a social call yesterday in Florida, with Boras nowhere in sight, unless he was driving the car, to amortize his percentage.

This was the same Mrs. A-Rod who wore a profane and probably expensive little white tank top to a Yankees game last July, an eye-opener for the kiddies, telling the world off quite graphically. Presumably, she did not wear that shirt yesterday for the conservative Steinbrenners.



In his own gauche way, A-Rod has offended the Yankees, which may only now be dawning on him.

“Cynthia and I have since spoken directly with the Steinbrenner family,” Rodriguez said in a statement released on his Web site (arod.com) yesterday.

“During these healthy discussions, both sides were able to share honest feelings and hopes with one another, and we expect to continue this dialogue with the Yankees over the next few days,” he added.

The Yankees should imitate Vince Lombardi, when his Super Bowl-winning center, Jim Ringo, had the audacity to hire an agent for salary negotiations. According to legend, Lombardi left his office for a few minutes and came back and informed Ringo that he would have to negotiate with the Eagles, because he had just been traded. Ringo and Lombardi denied that scene, but Ringo did hire an agent, and he did get traded, in very short order.

Nowadays, of course, athletes have every right to hire an agent, but they need to be aware of the impact. Boras went too far, and Rodriguez did not seem to understand any of the implications of putting the squeeze on the Yankees. Whatever vision of El Dorado Boras painted, the response from other clubs has been underwhelming.



This is a good sign. It shows that even baseball owners can learn. Back in the mid-1980s, the owners openly committed collusion by not pursuing free agents, a mistake that eventually cost them money and embarrassment. This time, most of the richer clubs just shrugged — but separately — when Boras peddled his newly liberated client.

“We know there are other opportunities for us,” Rodriguez said yesterday. “But Cynthia and I have a foundation with the club that has brought us comfort, stability and happiness.”

In other words, Boras tossed and lost — with A-Rod’s image. Rodriguez has never justified himself to Yankees fans, having driven in nine runs in 24 postseason games since joining the Yankees with that huge contract in 2004. Even in the highly individualistic sport of baseball, there is a foxhole mentality. The players know Rodriguez works hard, but they also know he has not come through in the postseason.

Alex Rodriguez let his agent opt out for him, right during the World Series. Now the Yankees should opt out on him.

E-mail: geovec@nytimes.com.



Dear, sweet Harley Kwink...I'm madly in love with you. Marry me! We can go to Canadia. Or Boston or something. It'll be grand...You know the cookies are a given. They are ALWAYS a given. You could dump me tomorrow and you'd still get the cookies. Boston..shit, wherever dyke weddings were legalized. And where better to rub their little piggie noses in how bad they suck than right on their doorstep? What are they gonna do? Be jealous of you? Stare furiously at your tah-tahs? Not willingly give you cookies, but instead begrudgingly give you their cookies? Woman, time to wake up to the powers you wield - Uschi

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I agree with Harley, but would do so much more strongly if she sent me pics of herself.

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 Originally Posted By: PJP
Official statement from Alex Rodriguez


11/14/2007 3:27 PM ET
No other team can afford to pay me what the Yankees did, so on second thought, staying with the Yankees ain't such a bad idea after all.

Suckers.




Yeah...pretty much. I like A-Rod as a player but he is such a prima donna. I think both he and the Yanks would be better off parting. That way the team could find a player with lower numbers but add to team chemistry and A-Rod could find a team where he could finally get to be Derek Jeter...just without the rings.


heh. Awesome and on target.



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 Originally Posted By: Joe Mama
I agree with Harley, but would do so much more strongly if she sent me pics of herself.


Hey! Isn't it enough that I have disowned ARod? Seriously, that shit he pulled by making his announcement during the WS was too much. You know I have no love for the Red Sox, but he couldn't wait 24 hours to make his announcement? He just had to do it during the Series... Ridiculous.

He gambled and lost and now he's back with his tail between his legs. I seriously cannot believe that the Yanks are still talking to him.

All that should be enough for you to agree with me, boobies or no.



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 Originally Posted By: Joe Mama
I agree with Harley, but would do so much more strongly if she sent me pics of herself.


Hey! Isn't it enough that I have disowned ARod?


No, because we both know that you're disowning him because he fucked over the Yankees after underachieving for them in every postseason since Game 4, 2004. That's a natural reaction, of course, but not one that'll earn you pookie points.

Sexy pics would, though. Hell, I'd probably never refer to you as "Harley" again, and I'd even throw in those lovey faces for the O's in the word.


 Originally Posted By: harleykwin
Seriously, that shit he pulled by making his announcement during the WS was too much. You know I have no love for the Red Sox, but he couldn't wait 24 hours to make his announcement? He just had to do it during the Series... Ridiculous.


I'm sorry, but this basically read to me as "Blah blah blah, blah blah-blah-blah, blah Red Sox blah blah blah, blah...blah."

 Originally Posted By: harleykwin
He gambled and lost and now he's back with his tail between his legs. I seriously cannot believe that the Yanks are still talking to him.


But they are, to the tune of 10 years, $275 Million. Be proud, Yankees fans, your ownership has no balls. I bet ol' Puddin'head Georgie wouldn't put up with this shit.

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All that should be enough for you to agree with me, boobies or no.


Oh, I agree with you. 100%. I'd just agree more strongly and enthusiastically if sexy pics were involved. If'n you're shy, send some of Southie. That works, too. Confidential;ity agreements would still apply.


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I agree with Harley, but would do so much more strongly if she sent me pics of herself.


Hey! Isn't it enough that I have disowned ARod?


No, because we both know that you're disowning him because he fucked over the Yankees after underachieving for them in every postseason since Game 4, 2004. That's a natural reaction, of course, but not one that'll earn you pookie points.

Sexy pics would, though. Hell, I'd probably never refer to you as "Harley" again, and I'd even throw in those lovey faces for the O's in the word.


"p kie"?



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Seriously, that shit he pulled by making his announcement during the WS was too much. You know I have no love for the Red Sox, but he couldn't wait 24 hours to make his announcement? He just had to do it during the Series... Ridiculous.


I'm sorry, but this basically read to me as "Blah blah blah, blah blah-blah-blah, blah Red Sox blah blah blah, blah...blah."


I lost you with "no love for the Red Sox" didn't I?

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He gambled and lost and now he's back with his tail between his legs. I seriously cannot believe that the Yanks are still talking to him.


But they are, to the tune of 10 years, $275 Million. Be proud, Yankees fans, your ownership has no balls. I bet ol' Puddin'head Georgie wouldn't put up with this shit.


Oh, shut up, you...

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All that should be enough for you to agree with me, boobies or no.


Oh, I agree with you. 100%. I'd just agree more strongly and enthusiastically if sexy pics were involved. If'n you're shy, send some of Southie. That works, too. Confidential;ity agreements would still apply.


You just want to see her tattoo...



Dear, sweet Harley Kwink...I'm madly in love with you. Marry me! We can go to Canadia. Or Boston or something. It'll be grand...You know the cookies are a given. They are ALWAYS a given. You could dump me tomorrow and you'd still get the cookies. Boston..shit, wherever dyke weddings were legalized. And where better to rub their little piggie noses in how bad they suck than right on their doorstep? What are they gonna do? Be jealous of you? Stare furiously at your tah-tahs? Not willingly give you cookies, but instead begrudgingly give you their cookies? Woman, time to wake up to the powers you wield - Uschi

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but he's still an amazing player with 10+ healthy years left, barring griffeyism, and he's currently baseball's best hitter (and pretty good at defense, baserunning, etc) so he's a good asset to have.


But there's the key term: "barring Griffeyism." Just because he's been amazing to this point in his career - and no one, not even me, will argue otherwise - doesn't mean that he'll be able to stay completely healthy for the next 10 years. Shit happens, injuries happen, and talent declines. So the question becomes, are the Yankees (or any team) willing to take the risk and sign A-Rod for ten years at $30 Million per? The answer so far has been "not really."

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I think if he truly is sincere about this and signs a contract for less money just to stay with the Yanks and embarasses Boras in the process he will be loved by all of baseball. I won't ever truly embrace the guy till he wins a championship wearing pinstripes (I've already given away my A Rod shirts and jersey to good will) but he certainly seems to be on his way to repairing his reputation. Furthermore, I believe he will remove all presure whatsoever from himself if he has a long contract with the Yanks and shows he is more interested about the team than the money.


At this point I could go either way. It's tough to replace him and you don't want to trade for a third baseman 'cause that might mean getting rid of Hughes or Kennedy. Lowell is the greatest clubhouse prescence in all of baseball but his numbers aren't as good as they seem (this year he batted .370 at Fenway and .280 elsewhere) but he would be a helluva first baseman for the Yanks if they get him and A Rod.


Y'know, this post is exactly why I hope he signs with the Angels or White Sox and then comes back to Yankee Stadium and rapes them in every game. Did he and Boras fuck the Yankees out of the $27 Million they're supposed to get from Texas? Yup. And the Yankees did an admirable thing by trying to negotiate in good faith but then saying "if he opts out, we're done with him." But now they're willing to negotiate "as long as Boras isn't around"??? It's amazing how quickly the Yankees became backpedalling pussies. Here's the reality of the situation: Boras IS involved, whether or not the Yankees pretend otherwise. Will he be in the negotiations? Maybe not, but you can be damned sure that whoever does negotiate will be reporting back to him. And you can be damned sure that he'll use those negotiations to work on other teams directly. Maybe A-Rod will sign with the Yankees, maybe he won't. But y'know that bidding war the Yankees said they won't participate in? Congratulations, you're participating in it. So you keep flip-flopping on him and know this: whether he decides to sign with the Yankees (and deal with ten years of you assclowns prattling about "true Yankees" and booing him), or he signs elsewhere (and comes back to haunt the Yankees), the Yankees just gave A-Rod and Boras the last laugh. Be proud.

 Originally Posted By: PJP
Either way we will make the Sox overpay for Lowell or force them to give up Bucholz and Elsbury to get Cabrera.....HA HA!


Considering they didn't overpay Martinez (but the Mets did), Lowe (but the Dodgers did), or Damon (but the Yankees did)...and considering they had a shot at Oswalt and/or Andruw Jones in 2006 but wouldn't give up those guys...and considering they have Youkilis to play third so they can sign or trade for a first baseman...I don't see either scenario happening.

Yes, "HA HA!" indeed.

PS: Someone from one of the New York papers (I believe) figured out what A-Rod would "really" cost the Yankees if he'd signed the extension deal versus what he'll cost them as a free agent. I'll find that and post it here. The short version is, it's a $203 Million difference...



Wow.

For a guy who's team just won the Series you sure sound bitter. First off you can sign a player without the agent being involved....in fact the Braves did it with Andruw Jones when they told him to leave Boras at home.

Secondly.....Gagne.

You have no right to criticize anyone after that move.

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oh and Martinez and Lowe have been better than Matt Clement and whatever other unnotable loser (I can't remember) they signed to replace them. In fact they took many steps backwards instead of keeping their championship team together. Losing Lowell will hurt you guys.....just like losing Gabbard for Gagne will too!

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And centerfield for you guys has been unsettled since Damon left. Crisp and Pena weren't good fits.....it looks like Elsbury will be though until you give him up to get fat ass Cabrera to play third!

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Wow.

For a guy who's team just won the Series you sure sound bitter. First off you can sign a player without the agent being involved....in fact the Braves did it with Andruw Jones when they told him to leave Boras at home.

Secondly.....Gagne.

You have no right to criticize anyone after that move.


Not at all. It's just depressing to me that the Yankees went from making a very bold, courageous move to back-pedaling and looking like a bunch of pussies. If they really wanted to show some balls they'd either tell A-Rod "Thanks, but no thanks" or (if they absolutely needed to have him) have offered him a contract for a yearly rate of $20 Million, just to show him and Boras who had the power. I guess I overestimated them, shame on me.

I'm well aware that a player can sign without an agent. My point was that there's no way Boras didn't know that this was going down, and there was definitely a possibility/probability that he'd try to swing this into something more to his liking. Sorry you didn't catch onto that.

As for Gagne, did it prove to be a bad move? Yup. But there were multiple teams that were playoff contenders (like Detroit and the Yankees...sorry, but it's true) that were after him because of the numbers he was starting to put together in Texas. So you're welcome in hindsight for him not coming to New York - if he couldn't thrive in Boston, he sure as shit wouldn't have lasted there.

PS: As for bad bullpen moves, paging Kyles Farnsworth...paging Kyle Farnsworth...

 Originally Posted By: PJP
oh and Martinez and Lowe have been better than Matt Clement and whatever other unnotable loser (I can't remember) they signed to replace them. In fact they took many steps backwards instead of keeping their championship team together. Losing Lowell will hurt you guys.....just like losing Gabbard for Gagne will too!


Martinez and Lowe, over the course of their current contracts, weren't and aren't worth the money they were paid. If either were re-signed by the Red Sox, they wouldn't have been able to trade for Josh Beckett or Lowell (the other "unnotable losers" they picked up post-Martinez/Lowe). So, again, your argument fails. Was Clement a good signing? Nope, but signing him hurt less than if they'd succeeded in signing Carl Pavano. You remember Carl Pavano, right? Yankees and Sox wanted him. Yankees won the Pavano sweepstakes. How'd that deal work out? Oh yeah...

Murphy had a bright future as a fourth outfielder and Gabbard wasn't going to be much more than a fifth starter - so I think we'll be okay without them (we managed to survive this year, you'll notice). And I suspect we'll manage without Gagne, whom the Red Sox aren't going after. Feel free to grab him; I'm sure he could be had for cheaper than Rivera will cost. By the way, $45 Million for three years of Rivera? When Francisco Cordero is available for younger and cheaper?

I want Lowell back. I'd offer him three years plus an option for $13 Million per, or a guaranteed four years at $44 Million. But I don't get to make those offers. If he signs with us, I'll be very happy. If he doesn't, I'll miss him but I'll survive with Youkilis at third and whoever they grab for first.

 Originally Posted By: PJP
And centerfield for you guys has been unsettled since Damon left. Crisp and Pena weren't good fits.....it looks like Elsbury will be though until you give him up to get fat ass Cabrera to play third!


Are you saying you'd rather have Damon, with his declining skill set and $52 Million contract (to now play left field, if you hadn't heard), over Crisp's better speed and defense for a fraction of the cost? Okay, good luck with that, too.

Ellsbury is slotted to play center next year and for the next few years. Crisp will be traded for whatever the Sox need (believe it or not, not every team wants to pay $15 - $20 Million for Hunter or Jones) and the Sox will continue to mix free agent pick-ups with young, home-grown players. Can't see them getting Cabrera - frankly, I see Cabrera's fat ass in pinstripes, waddling into the next double play, as the Yankees mortgage away more good young pitching in hopes of having the best fantasy team ever. Damn shame he won't make anyone forget that the Yankees could've had David Ortiz in 2003 but decided to stick with Jason Giambi through 2008.

Let me remind you. Two Championships in four years versus none in seven. You can yammer on about the 26 in the 20th century, but we both know that not even your owners care about that. They're too busy trying to live down the greatest choke in MLB history while building the greatest set of overpaid underachievers since...well, since the Yankees of the 80s and early 90s.


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Uschi said:
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MisterJLA: RACKS so hard, he called Jim Rome "Chris Everett." In Him, all porn is possible. He is far above mentions in so-called "blogs." RACK him, lest ye be lost!

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Uschi said:
I won't rape you, I'll just fuck you 'till it hurts and then not stop and you'll cry.

MisterJLA: RACKS so hard, he called Jim Rome "Chris Everett." In Him, all porn is possible. He is far above mentions in so-called "blogs." RACK him, lest ye be lost!

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Uschi said:
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MisterJLA: RACKS so hard, he called Jim Rome "Chris Everett." In Him, all porn is possible. He is far above mentions in so-called "blogs." RACK him, lest ye be lost!

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MisterJLA: RACKS so hard, he called Jim Rome "Chris Everett." In Him, all porn is possible. He is far above mentions in so-called "blogs." RACK him, lest ye be lost!

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 Originally Posted By: Joe Mama
First off.....I give this guy credit for the clutch playoff performances all the time.....with that said he is an average pitcher against the Yanks.

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He actually looks pretty decent without that stupid ass van dyke.

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Wow.

For a guy who's team just won the Series you sure sound bitter. First off you can sign a player without the agent being involved....in fact the Braves did it with Andruw Jones when they told him to leave Boras at home.

Secondly.....Gagne.

You have no right to criticize anyone after that move.


Not at all. It's just depressing to me that the Yankees went from making a very bold, courageous move to back-pedaling and looking like a bunch of pussies. If they really wanted to show some balls they'd either tell A-Rod "Thanks, but no thanks" or (if they absolutely needed to have him) have offered him a contract for a yearly rate of $20 Million, just to show him and Boras who had the power. I guess I overestimated them, shame on me.

I'm well aware that a player can sign without an agent. My point was that there's no way Boras didn't know that this was going down, and there was definitely a possibility/probability that he'd try to swing this into something more to his liking. Sorry you didn't catch onto that.

As for Gagne, did it prove to be a bad move? Yup. But there were multiple teams that were playoff contenders (like Detroit and the Yankees...sorry, but it's true) that were after him because of the numbers he was starting to put together in Texas. So you're welcome in hindsight for him not coming to New York - if he couldn't thrive in Boston, he sure as shit wouldn't have lasted there.

PS: As for bad bullpen moves, paging Kyles Farnsworth...paging Kyle Farnsworth...

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oh and Martinez and Lowe have been better than Matt Clement and whatever other unnotable loser (I can't remember) they signed to replace them. In fact they took many steps backwards instead of keeping their championship team together. Losing Lowell will hurt you guys.....just like losing Gabbard for Gagne will too!


Martinez and Lowe, over the course of their current contracts, weren't and aren't worth the money they were paid. If either were re-signed by the Red Sox, they wouldn't have been able to trade for Josh Beckett or Lowell (the other "unnotable losers" they picked up post-Martinez/Lowe). So, again, your argument fails. Was Clement a good signing? Nope, but signing him hurt less than if they'd succeeded in signing Carl Pavano. You remember Carl Pavano, right? Yankees and Sox wanted him. Yankees won the Pavano sweepstakes. How'd that deal work out? Oh yeah...

Murphy had a bright future as a fourth outfielder and Gabbard wasn't going to be much more than a fifth starter - so I think we'll be okay without them (we managed to survive this year, you'll notice). And I suspect we'll manage without Gagne, whom the Red Sox aren't going after. Feel free to grab him; I'm sure he could be had for cheaper than Rivera will cost. By the way, $45 Million for three years of Rivera? When Francisco Cordero is available for younger and cheaper?

I want Lowell back. I'd offer him three years plus an option for $13 Million per, or a guaranteed four years at $44 Million. But I don't get to make those offers. If he signs with us, I'll be very happy. If he doesn't, I'll miss him but I'll survive with Youkilis at third and whoever they grab for first.

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And centerfield for you guys has been unsettled since Damon left. Crisp and Pena weren't good fits.....it looks like Elsbury will be though until you give him up to get fat ass Cabrera to play third!


Are you saying you'd rather have Damon, with his declining skill set and $52 Million contract (to now play left field, if you hadn't heard), over Crisp's better speed and defense for a fraction of the cost? Okay, good luck with that, too.

Ellsbury is slotted to play center next year and for the next few years. Crisp will be traded for whatever the Sox need (believe it or not, not every team wants to pay $15 - $20 Million for Hunter or Jones) and the Sox will continue to mix free agent pick-ups with young, home-grown players. Can't see them getting Cabrera - frankly, I see Cabrera's fat ass in pinstripes, waddling into the next double play, as the Yankees mortgage away more good young pitching in hopes of having the best fantasy team ever. Damn shame he won't make anyone forget that the Yankees could've had David Ortiz in 2003 but decided to stick with Jason Giambi through 2008.

Let me remind you. Two Championships in four years versus none in seven. You can yammer on about the 26 in the 20th century, but we both know that not even your owners care about that. They're too busy trying to live down the greatest choke in MLB history while building the greatest set of overpaid underachievers since...well, since the Yankees of the 80s and early 90s.
wow. you really sound bitter. I'm not messing with you. relax a little....like you said you just won 2 out of the past 4 world series....chill. Why does it bother you that Yankees fans and the Yankess themselves aren't in panic mode and are quite happy with the way the team is shaping up for this year and the coming years. Keep in mind we spotted you a 14 game lead 'cause of injuries and you still almost choked away the divison. yup.


and keeping Martinez and Lowe wouldn't have stopped you from getting Beckett....that is a pretty weak thing to say.

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And for the record....I believe the Yanks and Sox are both investing alot of time into young studs and will reap the benefits from them unless they do something stupid like trade them. I think the rivalry will be very healthy and strong for the next few years for sure. I know you yankee haters like to use the tired old argument about the Yanks signing high priced veterans blah blah but in case you haven't noticed for the past two years Cashman has been doing business differently. I don't get this venom from you Joe....you hate A Rod I get it....but the Yanks aren't idiots either. They need a third baseman and A Rod is the best out there. By signing him we don't have to give up Kennedy or Hughes. How is that a bad thing? He came to them and apologized. Boras is the asshole here not A Rod. A Rod knows he fucked up. If anything I actually have alot of respect for him now.....but I'll hold off on gushing over him until he actually signs and subtracts the 21.3 million he cost the team. If you can't get over that so be it. But I bet you anything Theo Epstein and any other baseball expert would tell you the Yanks are doing the right thing.

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It's official now....275 million contract!

ESPN.com: Baseball

Thursday, November 15, 2007
Report: A-Rod, Yankees agree on outline of $275 million, 10-year contract

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NEW YORK -- Alex Rodriguez and the New York Yankees have agreed to the outline of a
$275 million, 10-year contract, a deal that potentially would allow him to earn millions more if he sets the career home run record.


The amount of the guaranteed money was revealed by a person familiar with the negotiations who spoke Thursday on condition of anonymity because the deal hasn't been finalized. A-Rod met Wednesday in Tampa, Fla., with the Steinbrenner brothers but the parameters of the deal were set in place last weekend.


"Yeah, I could say that," Yankees senior vice president Hank Steinbrenner said. "The meeting was a final get-together. He wanted to make sure myself and my brother knew that he was sincere and serious."


The Yankees still must draft the agreement with Rodriguez's agent, Scott Boras.



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wow. you really sound bitter. I'm not messing with you. relax a little....like you said you just won 2 out of the past 4 world series....chill.


Nah. Not bitter. It's been a long season of keeping my mouth shut. I haven't sparred with you in how long? Jes' making up for lost time...

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Why does it bother you that Yankees fans and the Yankess themselves aren't in panic mode and are quite happy with the way the team is shaping up for this year and the coming years.


It's not about perceived panic mode. I never used the term. It's the fact that the Yankees are lightning quick to bend over for A-Rod and (by extension) Boras. I thought naming Girardi manager was a good thing. I like that they're keeping Posada and Rivera (though I think they're overpaying for Rivera). It's just a shame that they'd rather go back to a guy who screwed them over to the tune of about $27 Million and was never considered a "true Yankee" than use the money to shore up more needs (starting and relief pitching and first base, for example) and have more financial flexibility to go after a better free agent class down the road.

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Keep in mind we spotted you a 14 game lead 'cause of injuries and you still almost choked away the divison. yup.


Great spin. The key word is "almost."

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and keeping Martinez and Lowe wouldn't have stopped you from getting Beckett....that is a pretty weak thing to say.


Um, yeah it would've. Keeping the two of them would've cost (conservatively) $21 Million each year for four years. That money keeps them from being willing or able (depending on your view) to soak up Lowell's contract which, at the time, was considered an albatross. Which would've killed the deal (taking on Lowell was a condition the Marlins were firm on). Also, $13 Million of that gets flushed down the toilet in year three when Pedro's shoulder blew out, requiring surgery...just like the Red Sox predicted it would.


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ESPN.com: Buster Olney

Thursday, November 15, 2007
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Imagine that Alex Rodriguez was running for president against Hillary Clinton and John McCain and Barack Obama, and then ask yourself this: How much would they have paid for the negative publicity he got over the last 18 days?

Ten million dollars? Twenty? Fifty million? Because for 18 days Rodriguez got hammered by everyone, everywhere. By our respected colleague Peter Gammons, who wondered forcefully whether this sort of gauche hubris explained why Rodriguez hadn't yet played in the World Series. A-Rod got hammered by print columnists, by Mike and Mike, by Mike and the Mad Dog, by Michael Kay in New York and Mike Felger in Boston and the Mad Dog in Lansing and Softy in Seattle. A-Rod got hammered from sea to shining sea, after word of his decision to opt out of his record-setting contract leaked out in the middle of Game 4 of the World Series -- an act that his agent, Scott Boras, first blamed on the Yankees, then blamed on a mistake and, then, probably cajoled by his All-Star client, finally blamed on himself, acknowledging what everybody in the game thought anyway.

A-Rod continued to get hammered last week, after word came out that Boras had demanded an initial offer of $350 million from the Yankees, and as the Players Association -- in a you-can't-make-this-up moment -- raised the question of whether there was collusion against a player whom the Yankees had been prepared to offer the highest salary in the history of sports. If Rodriguez had taken their call.

We know now for certain that none of it was necessary, because in the end, Rodriguez is going to sign for precisely the contract offer he would've gotten from the Yankees had he sat down to negotiate with them during the World Series.

Well, not exactly the same offer. The Yankees have insisted, in their face-to-face negotiations with Rodriguez, on deducting about $21.3 million from the final amount -- the number of dollars in subsidy that the Yankees lost from the Texas Rangers when Rodriguez opted out of his current contract. Call it the Boras Tax, if you will.

Rodriguez is going to get the largest contract ever in sports, when the I's are dotted and the T's crossed. He'll survive. But Boras' reputation as a savvy negotiator will not. He somehow managed to badly overplay the perfect hand.

Boras represented the best player coming off one of the greatest seasons ever, in the midst of a Hall of Fame career, a 54-homer, 156-RBI monster season played out in sports' biggest market, for the richest team. Boras held four aces, in a sense, and yet his client's contract will be somewhat lighter, by about 7 or 8 percent, and his client's reputation -- which had just begun to heal, through his remarkable 2007 season -- was trashed.


Nobody should ever doubt that Boras was largely responsible for Rodriguez's $252 million contract in the winter of 2000-2001, at that time a deal twice as large as any contract in professional sports. Boras pushed the buttons of Texas owner Tom Hicks and wound up with a landmark agreement.

But if Rodriguez finishes a new deal with the Yankees, of about $270 million, it will be a record-setting contract concluded in spite of his agent's missteps -- a deal built on Rodriguez's talent, his hard work and his willingness to step forward and go around Boras, with humility in hand, to reach out to the Yankees.

If Rodriguez hadn't done that, there's every indication from rival executives that he would've been forced to go door to door, to the Angels or the Dodgers or the Mets or the Red Sox, to ask for a deal even within $100 million of what the Yankees offered. "That was the thing that was so strange about this," an agent mused on Wednesday evening. "There was nobody, in this market, who could pay close to what the Yankees could pay -- because of the market, and because of how important A-Rod is to them."

Alex Rodriguez has 173 homers and 513 RBIs in four seasons with the Yankees, and very soon he will win his second Most Valuable Player Award with them. He plays hard, prepares diligently, is a much better teammate than anyone realizes, and is in the midst of an incredible career. For all that, you would think that he would be embraced, and yet, he is not. In fact, several agents agreed on Wednesday night, that the damage done to Rodriguez's image over the last 18 days may take years to repair. "The only way he comes back from this," said one agent, "is if he plays a big role in the Yankee' winning a World Series, or when he actually starts getting closer to Barry Bonds' record. Then the focus will be on his accomplishments."

Finally.

But in the years ahead, A-Rod will have to live with the consequences of his own decisions and his own actions, and will continue to get booed. Meanwhile, if Boras draws the industry's standard rate of 5 percent, he will get about $14 million of Rodriguez's new contract.

Sometime in the last 18 days, you can bet that A-Rod -- as he came to grips with the reality that he had to accept a $21 million cut in his offer from the Yankees, and as he absorbed the kind of negative publicity that can jar politicians awake at night in a cold sweat -- has wondered what, exactly, he is paying for.

Rodriguez continued to get hammered in today's papers: George Vecsey writes that the Yankees should just say no. Hank Steinbrenner's stance caught A-Rod off guard, writes John Harper, and A-Rod was so mad that he considered suing Boras. A-Rod felt the wrath of fans, writes Mike Vaccaro.

Many in baseball are thrilled that Boras blew this negotiation, writes Bill Shaikin.

A-Rod has repudiated Boras, writes Murray Chass. A-Rod realized Boras had turned him into the most reviled figure in sports, writes Bob Klapisch. The Steinbrenner sons got the best of Boras, writes Mike Lupica. All sides fumbled this, writes Ken Davidoff.

• Wallace Matthews thinks this is a negotiating ploy. Things are moving along in the negotiations, Hank Steinbrenner tells Tyler Kepner.

• Was told Wednesday night that the base salary part of the contract talks were the easiest -- the Yankees laid out the parameters of their offer, and A-Rod agreed, in general, before the conversation turned to other parts of the contract.

• The A-Rod signing does seem to clear one potential suitor from the Mike Lowell bidding, and perhaps increase the likelihood that Lowell goes back to Boston -- although the suggestion has been raised, within the Yankees' organization, to sign Lowell to play first base. The Yankees are still talking with Lowell, writes George King.

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wow. you really sound bitter. I'm not messing with you. relax a little....like you said you just won 2 out of the past 4 world series....chill.


Nah. Not bitter. It's been a long season of keeping my mouth shut. I haven't sparred with you in how long? Jes' making up for lost time...

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Why does it bother you that Yankees fans and the Yankess themselves aren't in panic mode and are quite happy with the way the team is shaping up for this year and the coming years.


It's not about perceived panic mode. I never used the term. It's the fact that the Yankees are lightning quick to bend over for A-Rod and (by extension) Boras. I thought naming Girardi manager was a good thing. I like that they're keeping Posada and Rivera (though I think they're overpaying for Rivera). It's just a shame that they'd rather go back to a guy who screwed them over to the tune of about $27 Million and was never considered a "true Yankee" than use the money to shore up more needs (starting and relief pitching and first base, for example) and have more financial flexibility to go after a better free agent class down the road.

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Keep in mind we spotted you a 14 game lead 'cause of injuries and you still almost choked away the divison. yup.


Great spin. The key word is "almost."

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and keeping Martinez and Lowe wouldn't have stopped you from getting Beckett....that is a pretty weak thing to say.


Um, yeah it would've. Keeping the two of them would've cost (conservatively) $21 Million each year for four years. That money keeps them from being willing or able (depending on your view) to soak up Lowell's contract which, at the time, was considered an albatross. Which would've killed the deal (taking on Lowell was a condition the Marlins were firm on). Also, $13 Million of that gets flushed down the toilet in year three when Pedro's shoulder blew out, requiring surgery...just like the Red Sox predicted it would.
When you see John Henry go into his personal pocket book and pay the 50 million posting fee for Dice K you can spare me how much this would have cost the team. All MLB teams have lots of cash to burn. Kudos to the Yanks and Boston for putting the money back into the teams and giving it back to the fans so to speak. This San Fran writer the other day was saying how every team could afford ARod if they wanted it's just that they don't like spending their money. They rather line their pockets instead of giving it back to the fans. Selig today announced that MLB made over 6 billion in revenues this year.

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All MLB teams have lots of cash to burn. Kudos to the Yanks and Boston for putting the money back into the teams and giving it back to the fans so to speak. This San Fran writer the other day was saying how every team could afford ARod if they wanted it's just that they don't like spending their money. They rather line their pockets instead of giving it back to the fans.


No argument here.


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"This San Fran writer the other day was saying how every team could afford ARod if they wanted it's just that they don't like spending their money."

Right. The only catch would be that A-Rod would have to pay CF, LF, RF, SS, 2B, and 3B for most teams to fit him under thier budget.


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ARod is gone....they won't even think about signing him. They will go after Lowell. Give him 4 years instead of the 2 the Sox will offer and he will take it.

I wonder if the Sox will go after A Rod? I wonder how different things would have been if you guys made that trade and gave up Manny and got A Rod and we were never stuck with him. It probably would have been us celebrating last night. The Angels Dodgers or Cubs will more than likely get him but I bet the Sox will think about it.



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"This San Fran writer the other day was saying how every team could afford ARod if they wanted it's just that they don't like spending their money."

Right. The only catch would be that A-Rod would have to pay CF, LF, RF, SS, 2B, and 3B for most teams to fit him under thier budget.


most every major league team sets their budgets way lower than they need to. they have the money to spend, they just don't. the argument is then split on whether that is right or wrong. before he was hit by lightning, bsams would always post here saying how all the cinci press would berate the reds management for never spending on the team despite being worth more than steinbrenner (and/or the newly formed voltron steinbrenner)

granted, you wont read that, and will only see "rob lOVe yankEeS, thEY spENd moNeY!" (and i chose, here, leet speak versus the dollar $ign speak) but i digress.

the issue that we're in now, however...

k, so, say arod and the yanks agree to 10 years for 275 mil. 27.5 mil a season. biggest in baseball. yadda yadda. but is he worth that?

no, of course, not in the real-life, human-being context, where atheletes or entertainers should be paid far below teachers and doctors and quirky, stumpy web designers.

i mean, comparatively, in the major league sport of baseball. do arod's stats warrant 27 million per season in the year 2008? is he 150% an ichiro, beltran, or soriano -- each at 17/18 million a season? is he 20% better than manny ramirez? is he twice as valuable as a miguel tejada?


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The San Francisco Chronicle reporter was Ray Ratto so MisterJLA can write him and complain.

I have a theory that JLA was an intern for the Yankees at some point in his life and got fucked in the ass so good by Steinbrenner he is still upset that the love of his life never mentioned him in his blog. How else do you explain the venom towards the Yanks. It's that or he has a very small penis.

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Wow.

For a guy who's team just won the Series you sure sound bitter. First off you can sign a player without the agent being involved....in fact the Braves did it with Andruw Jones when they told him to leave Boras at home.

Secondly.....Gagne.

You have no right to criticize anyone after that move.


Not at all. It's just depressing to me that the Yankees went from making a very bold, courageous move to back-pedaling and looking like a bunch of pussies. If they really wanted to show some balls they'd either tell A-Rod "Thanks, but no thanks" or (if they absolutely needed to have him) have offered him a contract for a yearly rate of $20 Million, just to show him and Boras who had the power. I guess I overestimated them, shame on me.



Much as I hate da sawx and anything or anyone associated with them, I must agree with this statement.

A-Rod is arguably the best position player in the game and he will be for probably the next 5 to 7 years.

That said...WE ARE THE FUCKING NEW YORK YANKESS!!!!! We are the baseball. Hell, we are bigger than baseball. And we are damn sure bigger than a-fuckin-fraud.

The Babe.
Gehrig.
The Mick.
Yogi.
Joe D.
Reggie.
Goose.
Catfish.
Donnie Ballgame.
Jeter.
Even Bucky Fuckin' Dent.

The list is damn near endless.
Does we need him or does he need us?
Who else could pay him the coin? I mean REALLY?
WE had him with his ass bent and we still gave him what he wanted.

His ego needs for him to be the highest paid player. Didn't mean we had to make it so. Offer his punk ass $15M/year and see if he REALLY wants to be a Yankee. Add an escalator to his contract that says if you win the MVP in the same year that the team wins the World Series, your contract immmediately balloons to $30M/year. It could even be made retroactive to past years on the deal. That way you might one day do something in the playoffs.

WE need pitching, not this fuckin' prick.

Yeah....fire Torre and pay a-rod. That's how you win The Series.

Yanks are still my squad but, Goerge needs to give it up if he signed off on this shit.


Oderint, dum metuant.


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Add an escalator to his contract that says if you win the MVP in the same year that the team wins the World Series, your contract immmediately balloons to $30M/year. It could even be made retroactive to past years on the deal. That way you might one day do something in the playoffs.


as an aside, i still like the notion of making all sports contracts based on incentives.

...anyway...

i was just reading about kenny rogers also parting ways with boras.

giving arod maaaajor benefit of the doubt, its possible this whole mess wasn't really what he wanted. sure, bottom line, its arod's move, but its possible a lot of the recent assholism is attributed to boras.

i'd likely not buy that at all if this were just arod, but having rogers make similar "what the fuck, man" statements like the linked article gives some credence to the possibility. seems boras makes a lot of statements without player consent. and kenny rogers did as much "i wanna stay a tiger"ing this year in newspaper quotes as arod did for the yankees. the shock came when both seemed to want out at the end of the year... only later did we find out that neither really wanted out (according to this deeply scientific theory, at least)

its an easier pill to swallow thinking that of kenny rogers, that he actually wanted to stay, and didn't really want to look around for better deals. arod has the misfortune of being universally hated, so its difficult to imagine he actually wanted to stay and didn't immediately press the eject button for a $350 mil ride. ...but its still possible.

to note, boras said it was his decision to announce the "no more yankee" bit during game 4. could be player protection, or could be yet another part of the above speculatoryiation

article's like this add to it moreso, aided by these types o' quotes:

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When the time is right and I have a proper forum ... I think it's important for New York fans, for the New York Yankee fans, to realize exactly what happened, from A to Z.


i dunno. hard to imagine, but ...its possible.

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Offer his punk ass $15M/year and see if he REALLY wants to be a Yankee.


i do like that notion. but i offer a better one:

arod could immediately reject most negative press in a single move -- ask for a lower rate contract.

it'd be a major move on his part. fans would respect his "not all about the money" notion. yankee fans would respect his "i really do wanna be on the team" notion. it'd be a huge contract, getting him to stick around for a long time, and proving his dedication to the team for a decade plus.

meanwhile, in actual behind-the-scenes land, arod's pitch would be for $24 mil/season, for 11 seasons. with that, he'd be the highest paid in baseball. the $264 mil contract would be the largest in history. he wouldn't have to sell off his 9th country home or whatever, cuz there'd really be no difference from his previous contract. ... but the PR perk of "dropping his rate" would make him look like a hero. him, of all people, looking for less, just because he wants to be a team player.

work the politics, you dumb fuck!


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 Originally Posted By: THE Bastard
Add an escalator to his contract that says if you win the MVP in the same year that the team wins the World Series, your contract immmediately balloons to $30M/year.


The problem with this is that teams are prohibited from this sort of thing - you can't have payments hinge on personal stats. It's probably why the current offer hasn't been finalized yet - the Yankees want to add a provision that pays A-Rod X amount of dollars if he breaks the home run record...


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Wow.

For a guy who's team just won the Series you sure sound bitter. First off you can sign a player without the agent being involved....in fact the Braves did it with Andruw Jones when they told him to leave Boras at home.

Secondly.....Gagne.

You have no right to criticize anyone after that move.


Not at all. It's just depressing to me that the Yankees went from making a very bold, courageous move to back-pedaling and looking like a bunch of pussies. If they really wanted to show some balls they'd either tell A-Rod "Thanks, but no thanks" or (if they absolutely needed to have him) have offered him a contract for a yearly rate of $20 Million, just to show him and Boras who had the power. I guess I overestimated them, shame on me.



Much as I hate da sawx and anything or anyone associated with them, I must agree with this statement.

A-Rod is arguably the best position player in the game and he will be for probably the next 5 to 7 years.

That said...WE ARE THE FUCKING NEW YORK YANKESS!!!!! We are the baseball. Hell, we are bigger than baseball. And we are damn sure bigger than a-fuckin-fraud.

The Babe.
Gehrig.
The Mick.
Yogi.
Joe D.
Reggie.
Goose.
Catfish.
Donnie Ballgame.
Jeter.
Even Bucky Fuckin' Dent.

The list is damn near endless.
Does we need him or does he need us?
Who else could pay him the coin? I mean REALLY?
WE had him with his ass bent and we still gave him what he wanted.

His ego needs for him to be the highest paid player. Didn't mean we had to make it so. Offer his punk ass $15M/year and see if he REALLY wants to be a Yankee. Add an escalator to his contract that says if you win the MVP in the same year that the team wins the World Series, your contract immmediately balloons to $30M/year. It could even be made retroactive to past years on the deal. That way you might one day do something in the playoffs.

WE need pitching, not this fuckin' prick.

Yeah....fire Torre and pay a-rod. That's how you win The Series.

Yanks are still my squad but, Goerge needs to give it up if he signed off on this shit.



I agree with everything Bastie just said.



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Cano takes positives from trade talk
By Bryan Hoch / MLB.com


  • NEW YORK -- No matter which way the Johan Santana sweepstakes shake out, Robinson Cano seems ready to spot the silver lining.

    While acquiring the left-handed ace would have given the Yankees a sizable winter boost, Cano believes the club's prospects for 2008 remain strong -- though he'd rather not see Santana wind up with the Red Sox.

    "We've got some great players," Cano said. "If we don't get a deal, we've got to play with our guys. In baseball, you never know what's going to happen. You've just got to keep fighting and play hard."

    "It's a great deal if we can get Santana. We need it. We need a No. 1 guy like him. ... If [the Red Sox] got Santana, they're going to be a way better team. I hope we get him. It's not a good idea for us if they get Santana."

    Cano made an appearance on Monday at the Center Grove Elementary School in Randolph, N.J., speaking to approximately four dozen children in a gymnasium while offering a few pointers on baseball basics.

    News of the Yankees' reported withdrawal from discussions with the Twins regarding Santana should provide Cano's good friend, Melky Cabrera, with some relief. The second baseman said that continued rumors over a potential trade with the Twins had drawn Cabrera's attention over the last several weeks.

    "It's like I tell him -- don't pay attention to the rumors," Cano said of Cabrera. "If you get traded, just keep playing. He wants to be a Yankee; he said he doesn't want to leave. I told him, 'If you have to leave, keep playing hard. You never know. You might come back.'

    "I love Melky, but he [would] play every day in Minnesota. If the deal is going to be great for him, I'll be happy. That's what I told him. If you're going to play every day, you prove to yourself that you can be in the big leagues. You don't want to be sitting on the bench."

    Cano, 25, said he has spent the majority of his winter working out in the Dominican Republic. His brief run with the Orientales Estrellas of the Dominican Winter League drew attention when the Yankees instructed Cano to leave the team last month.

    Cano had been cleared to play six games in the league to test an injury suffered in September -- a pulled an abdominal muscle that no longer feels painful, he said -- and was sternly reminded of his limit when general manager Brian Cashman noticed Cano had already played in 10 games.

    "I was really surprised," Cano said. "I didn't know they were going to call. But they are my boss, so I do whatever they want me to do. I just [went] home and kept working."

    Cano, who batted .306 with 19 home runs and 97 RBIs in a career-high 160 games for the Yankees in 2007, said that he has interest in signing a deal to remain in New York for the foreseeable future.

    Both Cano, who is arbitration eligible this year, and his agent, Bobby Barad, said that no dialogue has been opened with the club regarding a new contract.

    "I would like to go long-term, but they haven't said anything yet," Cano said. "I hope it happens. If not, I'll just keep playing."

    Cano said that he was "excited" to hear news of the Yankees' reuniting with Alex Rodriguez, saying that the reigning American League Most Valuable Player has helped both Cano and Cabrera with advice on and off of the field. He also spoke briefly with new manager Joe Girardi when their paths crossed in the Dominican Republic, and he is optimistic about the team's outlook.

    "I think he's going to do the job," Cano said of Girardi. "You see the job he did with the Marlins [in 2006]. He's a great man. It's going to be different, but I think he's going to be a great manager."

    Bryan Hoch is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.


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 Originally Posted By: Rob Kamphausen

Cano made an appearance on Monday at the Center Grove Elementary School in Randolph, N.J., speaking to approximately four dozen children in a gymnasium while offering a few pointers on baseball basics.


that was my school!


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