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Yeah, but I'm at work right this moment. Though I will be on vacation all next week.


whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

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It was perfect. Absolutely perfect. A tribute, tip-of-the-hat, homage to days gone by. It was subtle, funny, sweet, and had some quick biting commentary ("Decorative vegetables" and the Master's "beard") on both eras. Peter Davison is still, quite, The Doctor. And the last part was quite simply David Tennant and Steven Moffat paying tribute to The Doctor they grew up with.

Just perfect.

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It also put paid to accusations that Tennant is trying to piggy back the success of Harry Potter when he puts glasses on.
You tended to feel that the stuff Tennant was saying about the glasses and the shoes was something he wanted added to this Doctors character as a tribute rather than being some sort of afterthought or rip off of another franchise!

Tennants comments about the sonic screwdriver were blatantly a bit of self mocking hunour!

I did find it strange though that Davidsons Doctor was so oblivious to the fact Tennant was a future regeneration.

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was just on.

It was strange and kinda dumb.. and a bit too simple a story..I guess I am jaded with stories, the likes of which I am used to seeing in Dr Who...

I like some aspects of it...

I guess this episode was basically meant for young children.


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 Originally Posted By: Nowhereman
It also put paid to accusations that Tennant is trying to piggy back the success of Harry Potter when he puts glasses on.
You tended to feel that the stuff Tennant was saying about the glasses and the shoes was something he wanted added to this Doctors character as a tribute rather than being some sort of afterthought or rip off of another franchise!


Oh completely! Tennant and Steven Moffat have never hidden their love of the 5th Doctor and Peter Davison. This was both of them getting to thank the Doctor of their childhood.

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That was fucking awesome. That's the thing, this was a tribute to the 5th Doctor, but it had some nice asides about aspects of the modern era, as well. "The Master's Beard" joke went right over my head until the second viewing. That shit was hilarious!

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I did find it strange though that Davidsons Doctor was so oblivious to the fact Tennant was a future regeneration.


Meh, I did but I didn't. I noticed it took him longer to fathom what was happening. However, if you think about it, the 5th Doctor was always a bit slow on the uptake. He was always getting captured, or caught in a tight spot because he didn't possess Tom's "super doc" awareness of situations. I think this went pretty in hand with him. Besides, once he looked into his eyes, he knew. He just didn't want to admit this "skinny idiot" was himself. ;\)

At least, that's how I took it. Love that they finally explained the TARDIS interior "desktop theme" stuff. Pretty much what fans have always thought, but I've always wanted to know it for certain.

Moffat is a fucking genius.

I also really like how Davison's "breathless enthusiasm" is still front and center in his portrayal...even though the "breathless" part isn't acting anymore... ;\)

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Out Of Time

This has to be the best Torchwood episode I've ever seen.

I taped it the next time it came on.

There were no bug eyed monsters... just 3 people who flew an airplane through a timewarp, and into modern day England.

They were from 1953.

2 women and a man.

The man adjusted very poorly. His wife had died, and his son was in a nursing home with Alzhiemers.

He tried to kill himself by running a motor car in a garage; the fumes almost killed him, but Jack found him.. and, when the man just told Jack he would
wait till no one was around to stop him.. that was when Jack sat in the car
with him, the motor running until the man died from carbon monoxide
poisoning.. at least he did not die alone, as many of us will.

One of the two women started a love affair with one of the team..

The other, just floundered around.

The woman left the man and got back in her plane in search of the warp..

The other one took off, too.

Very touching episode.. about how 3 individuals react when they have lost verything and everyone they love and are thrust into a strange world of the future.

Fucking excellent episode.


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Just so's I can watch it over and over again...



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that was awesome, absolutely awesome!




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twas a bit wanky, but that's the nature of it these days, it seems.

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Dont you meet your right hand on a regular basis?


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 Originally Posted By: Grimm
twas a bit wanky, but that's the nature of it these days, it seems.



Oh, it was without a doubt David Tennant's 'love-letter' to his childhood Doctor. I fucking loved it...

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i got some dvds from the library. i did a quick brush up on wikipedia of the basics but i was surprised how open it was to new viewers. i like the humor and overall lightheartedness of the show.


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 Originally Posted By: Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
i got some dvds from the library. i did a quick brush up on wikipedia of the basics but i was surprised how open it was to new viewers. i like the humor and overall lightheartedness of the show.


Welcome to Doctor Who, Ray!

It's a wonderful show, and I know it will grow on you, as it has on me the past 24 years since I have been watching it.


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 Originally Posted By: Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
i got some dvds from the library. i did a quick brush up on wikipedia of the basics but i was surprised how open it was to new viewers. i like the humor and overall lightheartedness of the show.


Awesome, man. Which Doctor did you start with?

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you left out Dr. Suess...


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yeah I'm really liking it. I had to do a lot of wikipedia reading to get a grasp on the basics but it's so far been pretty easy to get in to. I like the concept of time and space travel. so many possibilities.
The regeneration idea is philosophically complex, which i love. I try and see it as being like Dax on DS9 mixed with reincarnation ideas. Very interesting. I like how with each regeneration he changes style and personality. what a clever idea that leaves so much flexibility. I can already understand how this show lasted for 30 years.
I'm now up to New Earth, having just finished the Christmas Invasion episode.


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 Originally Posted By: Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
yeah I'm really liking it. I had to do a lot of wikipedia reading to get a grasp on the basics but it's so far been pretty easy to get in to. I like the concept of time and space travel. so many possibilities.
The regeneration idea is philosophically complex, which i love. I try and see it as being like Dax on DS9 mixed with reincarnation ideas. Very interesting.


I'd still like to know which Doctor's episode's you had seen...


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yeah I'm really liking it. I had to do a lot of wikipedia reading to get a grasp on the basics but it's so far been pretty easy to get in to. I like the concept of time and space travel. so many possibilities.
The regeneration idea is philosophically complex, which i love. I try and see it as being like Dax on DS9 mixed with reincarnation ideas. Very interesting.


I'd still like to know which Doctor's episode's you had seen...

i saw the first 3 and last 3 of season 1 due to the availability of the DVDs at the library. I downloaded the christmas special with the tenth doctor and am now watching the second season premiere "New Earth."
I also watched some youtube clips of the doctor who confidential special to get some background.


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yeah I'm really liking it. I had to do a lot of wikipedia reading to get a grasp on the basics but it's so far been pretty easy to get in to. I like the concept of time and space travel. so many possibilities.
The regeneration idea is philosophically complex, which i love. I try and see it as being like Dax on DS9 mixed with reincarnation ideas. Very interesting.


I'd still like to know which Doctor's episode's you had seen...

i saw the first 3 and last 3 of season 1 due to the availability of the DVDs at the library. I downloaded the christmas special with the tenth doctor and am now watching the second season premiere "New Earth."
I also watched some youtube clips of the doctor who confidential special to get some background.



ahh, excellent!

Wait till you get to Tom Baker's run - 1974 - 1981.

He was the fourth, and IMO, the best Doctor.


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 Originally Posted By: Beardguy57

ahh, excellent!

Wait till you get to Tom Baker's run - 1974 - 1981.

He was the fourth, and IMO, the best Doctor.

i'm just watching the sci-fi series. i might go back and check out the original run after i'm done with the current stories.


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As much as I love the Baker run, I don't know if I could watch it again after the 9th and 10th Docs. Only because it'll look so antiquated compared to the current series...

Like classic Trek to TNG. I wish they renew the effects for old-school Who like they're doing with classic Trek...


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Actually, they are. They've put out a few old-school episodes with alternate video tracks of CGI-ed effects. I am not sure if it's just a 'testing-the-waters' phase, or whether they're tight on budget, but it hasn't happened to every release. The best part about it is the option of having either versions to watch.

I don't have a problem with watching old Bakers. Mainly due to Tom Baker's charisma and delivery in the part, and also due to the witty dialogue in most all of his scripts. And, then there's the whole Douglas Adams era. Watch City of Death again sometime. Sure, the guy's wearing a rubber mask, and all. But the Adams/Baker combo will remind you why the 4th Doctor is considered to be the iconic incarnation...

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Actually, they are. They've put out a few old-school episodes with alternate video tracks of CGI-ed effects. I am not sure if it's just a 'testing-the-waters' phase, or whether they're tight on budget, but it hasn't happened to every release. The best part about it is the option of having either versions to watch.

I don't have a problem with watching old Bakers. Mainly due to Tom Baker's charisma and delivery in the part, and also due to the witty dialogue in most all of his scripts. And, then there's the whole Douglas Adams era. Watch City of Death again sometime. Sure, the guy's wearing a rubber mask, and all. But the Adams/Baker combo will remind you why the 4th Doctor is considered to be the iconic incarnation...


I have no trouble watching any era of Doctor Who.

It's all good!


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so I'm now finishing up the middle of the first season and also watching season 2. Very good. the transition between Doctors 9 and 10 was surprisingly smooth. After the stuff I've read about Torchwood I don't think I'd like it but it's cool how they tied it to the Doctor and Queen Victoria.
Really enjoyed the Dalek episode where it was evolving human feelings.


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 Originally Posted By: Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
so I'm now finishing up the middle of the first season and also watching season 2. Very good. the transition between Doctors 9 and 10 was surprisingly smooth. After the stuff I've read about Torchwood I don't think I'd like it but it's cool how they tied it to the Doctor and Queen Victoria.
Really enjoyed the Dalek episode where it was evolving human feelings.


I saw that one online on YouTube.

It is an awesome episode.

Glad you got into this show.

Doctor Who is to science fiction, what Packard, Duesenberg, Cadillac and Lincoln were to cars in the 1930's.

Outstanding!


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I remember when they CGI'd Red Dwarf.
Everyone hated it, hence when its shown on tv or when they finally released the DVDs, they went back to the original!

While I personally thought it worked well (for the most part) with Star Wars, it really does not work with low budget shows.
Doctor Who would look fucking stupid if they CGI'd the early episodes!

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And anyway, one of the key elements of Who is how cheap it looked!

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