Following a series of unconfirmed reports across the media this morning, we're delighted to officially confirm that Billie Piper will return as Rose Tyler in Series Four of Doctor Who.
Anything you may read elsewhere about when, how or for how long Rose returns to Doctor Who should be treated as pure speculation at this point.
Originally Posted By: Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
question: Tom Baker is saying he's 760. But I'm certain that the current Doctor said he was 900.
So is there a "relative present" on the show that matches our own time (where his companions come from) and then we're to assume that between episodes and series he has had many travels and adventures that have built up 150 years or so of unseen stories? I like that idea a bit more than assuming he had centuries of dicking around and then had to regenerate 8 times in 40 years. It also leaves open the option of untold stories. Like maybe the Fourth Doctor wasn't around for 7 years, he was around for 50 we just only saw 7 of those years.
Yes, there is a lot of each incarnations life that we never see. The 5th Doctor, Davison, had a lot of the episodes (like Hartnell) bookend into each other. But, there are a few gaps in there. And, given the nature of time travel, all it takes is a single gap.
For example, the 9th Doctor asks Rose to come with him. She says no, and he dematerializes. He reappears again only a minute later, however, he could have been gone a hundred years, and had a hundred adventurers, before coming back to that moment after he left. It's the same with every Doctor, and the main reasoning how Big Finish Audios creates new adventures with past Doctors and companions.
So, it's undoubted that many, many years pass for each incarnation.
Originally Posted By: Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
I wonder what you longterm fans feel about regeneration. I came in with Tenth as the current and am able to read about the past ones with the kind of perspective that lets me see it one way, but you guys got attached to actors and then saw the regenerations as they aired. Do you guys feel that it is the same character just from different perspectives, or do you look at each one as being distinctive?
A little of both, really. Doctor Who is brilliant when it comes to the idea of regeneration. It's the only show where the main lead can get killed off at any time. The show can still go on, but, you have to at least say goodbye to that actor.
They always say the first Doctor you watch on the show becomes "your Doctor". It's the one you start out with, and basically defines how you see the character. So, yes, watching in real time with the series, it's always pretty tough to let the one you know go in place of a new guy.
And, he is without a doubt the same character, from different perspectives. Every incarnation just shines the spotlight on a different aspect of the Doctor. And, that's part of the brilliance of the character right there. To legitimately allow ten different actors to flesh him out over forty-plus years, while at the same time retaining that air of mystery. It's a extraordinary balancing act that show pulls off.
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One thing I notice in looking at the past Doctors is that each regeneration seems to be like an update. Wherein the events in the Doctor's life shape the regeneration. For example he was an old man who became younger and more active to match his active life of exploration. The Sixth Doctor being an asshole might be because he in some way blamed his companion for the death of the Fifth. The Seventh Doctor may have been an attempt to be more likeable and friendly. the Eighth Doctor is stronger and younger than the prior ones perhaps because he was caught offguard and shot and died a slow painful death while weak and at the mercy of others. The Ninth seems harder and more basic perhaps in mourning for the loss of the Time Lords, while the Tenth has an accent closer to Rose's and seems to have adopted her joy for their adventures, whereas Ninth was a bit more reserved towards things and had a "seen it" attitude. That's just my take on it.
That's an awesome take, really. I can see where you are coming from in a lot of that. Whatever the current incarnation seems to lack, the next one makes up for or counters it.
I also find it neat that the character seems to run on a cycle of five, when it comes to matching/similar personalities, and the like. You can see what I'm talking about with the pic below. They're not exact, of course. But, the similarity is there...
Yeah, it is. I've got that entire thing on disc. It's the Confidential episode they showed right before "Rose" aired that first night. Want me to rip it and upload it to Rapidshare for you?
Jon Pertwee was the first Doctor on when I really got into the show about 24 years ago.
It was " The Time Monster " that I saw.
It was great fun! I remember seeing those adventures for the first time and going " Wow!" at the end of each episode.
Then Tom Baker's Doctor came around.
He was and still is quite awesome.
I agree with other evaluations of his seven year run: You could tell he was quite bored by season 5, but what he did for the first four years with the character was brilliant and earned him much acclaim as the favorite Doctor of many, including me.
I am not sure? but it seemed like many of those little ad libs were written by him.
Fourth Doctor: " Your name.. it's too long. What is it again? "
Romana: " Romandervratalunda."
Fourth Doctor: " It's too long. If you were in danger, by the time I called out your name to warn you, you would be dead! How about if we shorten it to " Romana" ? "
Romana: " I don't like that."
Fourth Doctor: " It's either that or I call you Fred."
Yeah, it is. I've got that entire thing on disc. It's the Confidential episode they showed right before "Rose" aired that first night. Want me to rip it and upload it to Rapidshare for you?
Fourth Doctor: " Your name.. it's too long. What is it again? "
Romana: " Romandervratalunda."
Fourth Doctor: " It's too long. If you were in danger, by the time I called out your name to warn you, you would be dead! How about if we shorten it to " Romana" ? "
Romana: " I don't like that."
Fourth Doctor: " It's either that or I call you Fred."
Romana: " Okay, Fred it is, then."
Fourth Doctor: " Alright, follow me, Romana."
That was a quote from " The Ribos Operation."
i loved that exchange. in fact that particular bit kept me watching because i got such a laugh out of it.
this is a nicely done video. they took the song from the sequence where the Tenth Doctor tries on a new look and put it with video from various Doctors doing the same. It has some funny stuff, especially Baker's outfits.
Originally Posted By: Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
this is a nicely done video. they took the song from the sequence where the Tenth Doctor tries on a new look and put it with video from various Doctors doing the same. It has some funny stuff, especially Baker's outfits.
That's teh first time I've ever seen that...very cool.
Originally Posted By: Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
Cybermen vs. Daleks. And I loved the Doctor's 3D glasses (hence my current avatar)
Doctor Who avatars rock!
The Tardis in my avatar has a Christmas wreath on it...
there are a lot of us with Doctor Who avatars now.
I'm giving Torchwood a chance, it's actually decent. Nowhere near as good as the main show but it's been ok. Anyone watch the Sarah Jane adventures? Is that any good?
I've never watched Sarah Jane Adventures, it looks to be for very young children.
It's definitley aimed at kids though I wouldn't say very young. The Slitheen were in the first two parter & while they didn't get into the whole business of how they kill people & then wear their skins to look human, well it's not exactly Sesame Street. Sarah at one point decides to let a Slitheen child die begging for it's life because she knows it will just do more hunting & killing.
I find the show watchable but not anything I'm really enthuised about personally. The character of Sarah Jane is a mom now & also fills the role of the Doctor character. She doesn't really get to have any fun like the Doctor does.
I'm watching Planet of the Spiders, John Pertwee's final episode of his reign as The Doctor.
I haven't seen that many Pertwee episodes and was quite surprised when The Doctor fought like six guys at a time.
Did this happen often?
There has been a few times I've seen other Doctors whoop some ass too. Starting with Hartnell.
Pertwee is, essentially, the James Bond Doctor. He fights. He creates/uses gadgets. He drives really fast.
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet."
I'm watching Planet of the Spiders, John Pertwee's final episode of his reign as The Doctor.
I haven't seen that many Pertwee episodes and was quite surprised when The Doctor fought like six guys at a time.
Did this happen often?
There has been a few times I've seen other Doctors whoop some ass too. Starting with Hartnell.
Pertwee is, essentially, the James Bond Doctor. He fights. He creates/uses gadgets. He drives really fast.
Pertwee was the ass-kicker of The Doctor's. Many incarnations have fought with swords, and/or had to resort to a gun at some point. But, Pertwee is, generally, the only one to get his hands dirty.
Unless, of course, you count Eccleston tossing that guard into a wall in Bad Wolf...
When did this happen? I watch it on BBC America. Is there some other network it's on??
BBC America is always at least one season behind the "current" season we get on the Sci-Fi channel (which is usually at least three-to-six months behind the actual airing in the UK).
While it's off right now, since season four hasn't even started in England yet, the show normally runs every Friday night on the Sci-Fi channel...
Blink is a very good episode if you go to the official doctor Who website (Blink story) you can read the story that the episode is based on...it has the 9th doctor in it and its more comical.
By the way...I was just watching the 2nd season "Army of Ghost"....did anyone else notice that Freema Agyeman (Martha Jones) is one of the cybermen controlled Torchwood people!
