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My point, as made above, is that whomod is claiming to have based his opinion largely, if not exclusively, on his viewing of a video (in this case on youtube) and ignoring that the news organizations have already debunked his theory, despite the fact that this would have been a great story for them to break if it were true.

Now, with that being said, if you really, really, want to argue that anything posted on YouTube, even if edited, dubbed or devoid of context, makes it automatically more accurate than the written word, let me know and I can consider whether or not I want to spend some time finding videos that make Hillary, Ted Kennedy, et al, look like morons.

Mitt Romney offers his outlook for Super Tuesday.

American Spectator:

• LIKE PATS FANS late in the fourth quarter, Romney isn't letting go of the dream and neither were his supporters at the Boston Convention and Exhibition Center. Never has this writer attended a more upbeat gathering for a candidate who was mostly losing (or, to use Romney's favorite metaphor, at least getting more silvers and bronzes than golds).
  
  With the televisions flip-flopping between CNN, Fox News, and MSNBC, the crowd first burst into applause when it was reported that Romney had won overwhelmingly among Bay State primary voters who described themselves as conservatives. They continued to cheer and applaud every time the results in Massachusetts and Utah flashed on the screen -- Romney's only victories until the contests moved West to Colorado, North Dakota, Montana, and Minnesota.
  
  Hours before the polls closed on the West Coast, Romney supporters settled into party. "Hey, is that Dr. John playing?" one reveler asked a bewildered older lady about the music blasting on the sound system. As McCain and Huckabee piled up wins, they cheered each other up with promising poll results in California.
  
  Only a few Sam Adams-sipping College Republicans went slightly off message. "I'm scared," one confessed. "I don't think I could vote for John McCain." "We bet on the wrong guy in the Huckabee-Brownback feud," another said after Huckabee was projected the winner in another Southern state. "Wait, you're not a reporter, are you?"
  
  
  YET BY AND LARGE, the crowd remained enthusiastic in the face of daunting news. They waved large red foam "Mitt mitts" and signs saying "Change." They chanted "We love Mitt" whenever they saw that the gathering was being shown on TV. And they saved the best for their candidate.
  
  Former Massachusetts Gov. William Weld, joined by former Lt. Gov. Kerry Healey and Romney's brother and sons, made it clear in his introduction that Romney was staying in the race. Romney made it even clearer. "We're going to keep on battling," he assured the crowd. "We're going to go all the way to the convention. We're going to win this thing, and we're going to get to the White House."
  
  The Romney supporters cheered his applause lines on illegal immigration and the broken system in Washington as lustily as if he had just clinched the nomination. The candidate emphasized his private-sector experience and said, "It's time for the politicians to leave Washington and for we the people to take over!" Romney's only false note was when he invoked the "values of Ronald Reagan and George Herbert Walker Bush and Teddy Roosevelt." George Herbert Walker Bush?
  
  At the conclusion of his speech, Romney jumped off the platform to shake hands with his supporters. People in the crowd surged forward to greet him. Others filed out, again reassuring each other that it wasn't over yet. California would give them their fourth quarter game-changing touchdown.
  
  Indeed, it may not be over yet. Nevertheless, as this is being written, the networks are already projecting that California won't save Team Romney. Romney and his backers have a lot of heart. But his campaign is starting to look like the Patriots' desperate final 29 seconds of the Super Bowl. Only without a Tom Brady.

How do American Indians feel about him? Don't Mormons believe that American Indians were a lost tribe of Israel whose skin was turned dark because they were evil?

I would assume that they would base their vote less on the tenets of Mormonism and more on whether or not he supports lucrative casino gaming deals.

originally, but they have probably erased or at least deeply buried that little detail in recent years.

they were able to control the weather with their dances.....

I just read yesterday that he was in it for the long haul, because he was rich and could afford to keep going.

He can probably "afford" to keep going but it was all but mathmatically imposible for him to win at this point.

He was always supposed to be a smart businessman. One of the first rules of smart business is not throwing good money after bad.

Thank God.

did Joseph Smith quit when the golden plates were returned to Moroni?

Roman Moroni?

you fargin icehole.

FARGIN' ICEHOLES!

damn I post too slow...

Heh.

THIS IS FARGIN' WAR!!!

I was disappointed to see Romney end his candidacy yesterday:

• http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics/jan-june08/conservatives_02-07.html

I still believe that Romney is the most proven and capable of the Republican candidates, and despite criticism of his wealth and paying 20 million out-of-pocket for his own campaign, I liked that he was a candidate who couldn't be bought and didn't need to pander to special interests to keep his campaign going.

I felt he didn't sell this enough, or argue his other strengths, as a proven business owner, as a proven organizer with the 2002 Utah Winter Olympics, and as a proven political leader as governor of Massachusetts who turned the state's deficit into a 2 billion dollar surplus, and despite relatively low job creation, set the state on the course for long-term growth. And after that, when his former corporation he'd left was becoming insolvent, he once again took it over and again made it a strong and profitable company.

Alone among the candidates, Romney not only has a solid resume of past experience, but has repeatedly proven himself an effective leader in the public and private sector, with undisputable results.

Romney left the race at this point for the good of his party and the nation. While I admire that, it saddens me that he's no longer a candidate, because despite initially being put off by his Mormon faith, I grew to see him as the most capable and proven candidate.

If McCain loses in November, I think Romney is saving his resources for a 2012 campaign.

Check. And. Mate.

Romney Assaulted on Flight Leaving Olympics: A passenger became "physically violent" when the former Massachusetts governor asked him to move his seat upright for take-off.

I didn't realize that whomod had been to the Olympics

Romney takes biggest lead yet against Obama in national poll:

• WASHINGTON – GOP presidential hopeful Mitt Romney has rocketed ahead of President Obama and taken his biggest lead yet in a national head-to-head matchup, a new poll showed today.
  
  Romney topped Obama 45 percent to 39 percent in the Rasmussen Reports survey.
  
  “It’s also the biggest lead a named Republican candidate has held over the incumbent in Rasmussen Reports surveying to date,” said the pollsters.
  
  Obama’s 39 percent share of the vote in today’s poll also represents a new low for the president, whose support previously ranged from 40 percent to 46 percent in matchups with Romney.
  
  Obama leads all the other named GOP candidates by as little as seven and as much as 15 percentage points.

As I've said before, these polls are too early to put much faith in so this is posted for discussion purposes only.

(Well, that and the fact that MEM loves polls )

I actually think Obama is in even worse shape than the poll numbers indicate. This is in a crowded Republican primary race where Republicans are still divided in their fluctuating whims of who they think might be the best candidate.
But once the primary ends and Republicans/Independents are able to coalesce around one candidate, I think whoever the Republican is will surpass Obama in popularity.

And even Democrat pundits and pollsters have acknowledged that the "undecided" vote overwhelmingly goes for the challenger and not the incumbent consistently in elections.

I like Romney, but there are many other very capable Republicans I'd be happy with too. As would most of the nation at this point. Two guys who I think are as good as any of the front-runners are Gary Johnson and John Huntsman. But as we know from the 2008 campaign... it ain't near over yet.

I think Romney has potential to be '12s John Kerry.

Gary Johnson? You mean the republican Nader? The guy trying to run as a libertarian? That Gary Johnson?

Last I heard, he was just considering a Libertarian run. I liked him better as a Republican. If he actually has turned on Republicans and become a thorn in their side, that makes him far less appealing.

I like the idea of a Republican who can reach out to Democrats, without being a RINO.
Johnson has a good record as governor of cutting budgets in his own state, and standing up to budget waste, whether it comes from the Republican or Democrat side of the aisle.
Like Romney, Johnson's ability to be elected and retain popularity in an overwhelmingly Democrat state speaks well of his ability to unite unite the nation and get bipartisan support.

I still feel Gingrich is the most capable. And maybe we need a Republican who will just assertively and unapologetically be a Republican conservative and get things done. I really think Perry, Bachmann, Santorum or Huntsman would all fill that bill as well.

Romney is less reliably conservative, and could be too conciliatory toward Democrats to push through the needed changes that a Gingrich or some other solid conservative would. But Romney would arguably be less bombastic and more diplomatically advance conservative ideals in a way that would be more uniting and less partisan.

In the cases of both G.W. Bush and Obama, both campaigned as uniters and then were more divisive and then governed more partisanly and divisively than their predecessors.
Bush in particular was a very bipartisan guy when he was Texas governor, and I would argue the partisan forces unleashed on him forced him to be more partisan himself in retaliation. By comparison, Obama has gotten a relative free ride, and has never been nearly as hated and bashed by the media as Bush, or even from his conservative opposition.

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