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Posted By: First Amongst Daves Stormwatch tpb - 2013-09-05 9:08 AM
Stormwatch/The Authority has been integrated into the standard DCU. I was a huge fan of Millar's The Authority and I was interested to see how the title had changed in accordance with the general creative re-vamp strategy DC have been running under "the New 52".

The immediate changes:

a. Martian Manhunter seems to have replaced the Doctor as a member of the team.
b. Jenny Quantum is still around, but Midnighter and Apollo are not her foster fathers - indeed, Midnighter has a real apprehension about her and tries to strand her in an interdimensional limbo at one stage.
c. Midnighter and Apollo do not seem to be a couple, although the writer is clearly moving it in that direction.
d. The Engineer is in charge, and is considerably more bad ass than she was in the old continuity (its not a pleasant change - it comes across as very stereotyped).
e. Hawksmoor now literally talks to cities - they manifest as people on some other plane that he moves in. This was very intriguing, particularly when we meet the scarred manifestations of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
f. The Ship is now some sort of Daemonite creation, entirely antithetical to the superheroes on board and is basically coerced into assisting. the intelligent core of the ship is a very unpleasant thing which The Engineer calls "Charlie". The ship itself is called "Eye of the Storm". It looks like a giant hairdryer. The cool Bryan Hitch design of the Ship is gone.
g. The Bleed is now "hyperspace".
h. Back in the day, Stormwatch reported to some sort of mysterious cabal. This new Stormwatch reports to "the Dark Lords" - three humanoids who live on an island called Avalon and who remind me of the Nebulaman from Grant Morrison's Seven Soldiers of Victory. Its a bit crap.
i. Stormwatch has existed for centuries and has been composed of different characters over those years. I quite liked this new additina to the concept. The reader gets glimpses of these other Stormwatches from times passed (including the Crusades). It reminded me a bit of the Minutemen from 100 Bullets.

The team still fight world-threatening things - some Neanderthals who use some sort of technology to periodically set humanity's evolution back in some sort of race war; the Red Lanterns (this was the first time I'd read about the Red Lanterns, and aren't they an enormously dreary concept); some other interworld snots who are out to mine the Earth for gravity.

But a lot of the appeal of the book is gone. There's no witty repartee, no leftie "we want to make the world better" politics, and no standing up to authority which was the underpinning of The Authority. The main villain - The Engineer's old boyfriend - is entirely unsympathetic.

One other superficial thing annoys me. The costumes have been changed, for no apparent reason. Midnighter used to look like a leatherboy - slightly perverse and dangerous, a pretty simple design of black with a long leather jacket. In order, I assume, to steer the costume design away from Batman, the artist has got ride of the cape-like jacket, and covered the character in big spikes, including a very ridiculous looking one on his chin. For some reason it reminds me of a sex toy.

Anyway, I doubt I'll buy another tpb.
Posted By: Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk Re: Stormwatch tpb - 2013-09-05 10:10 AM
If you didn't like that definitely don't get the next one. I thought the Paul Cornell issues were decent (#1-6). After that Peter Milligan took over and I really wanted to like it, but got bored really fast. Jim Starlin is writing it now and it looks like a standard superhero book.
Posted By: klinton Re: Stormwatch tpb - 2013-09-08 4:30 AM
I had no exposure to the original team, so this was my entry point. I started reading because of Martian Manhunter.

They lost me with the bit about him being on Stormwatch to 'be a badass' or some stupid shit like that. I lasted until issue #4 before giving up.

Everyone else was entirely forgettable. There was a guy who talked to cities or some shit...and other people doing stuff.

It was truly awful stuff.
Posted By: First Amongst Daves Re: Stormwatch tpb - 2013-09-09 7:57 AM
 Originally Posted By: Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk
If you didn't like that definitely don't get the next one. I thought the Paul Cornell issues were decent (#1-6). After that Peter Milligan took over and I really wanted to like it, but got bored really fast. Jim Starlin is writing it now and it looks like a standard superhero book.


Sorry, I should have said it was tpb #2 I bought.

Jim Starlin is still working? Shit. Milligan is a good writer and can be a lot of fun, so that's a shame.

I'm seeing a lot of the same sort of crap permeating DC's New 52. I hate to say it, because the observation is such a cliche, but the repeated vibe of these books is very 1990s Image Comics.
Posted By: Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk Re: Stormwatch tpb - 2013-09-09 9:23 AM
At least '90s Image treated the artists more decently, since that was the whole idea of the company at the beginning. The books were very uneven because the artists were fickle motherfuckers; DC's books are uneven because editorial keeps kicking people out and changing directions.
Posted By: Pig Iran Re: Stormwatch tpb - 2013-09-27 12:11 AM
i stopped liking Stormwatch when it became the Authority really..that was ages ago....
Posted By: Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk Re: Stormwatch tpb - 2013-09-28 8:27 PM
Insensitive piggie.
Posted By: Pig Iran Re: Stormwatch tpb - 2013-09-29 5:15 PM
It's true!
Posted By: Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk Re: Stormwatch tpb - 2013-09-30 9:55 PM
everything I do
Posted By: Pig Iran Re: Stormwatch tpb - 2013-10-04 6:43 AM
I do it for...
Posted By: klinton Re: Stormwatch tpb - 2013-10-04 1:00 PM
Poo.
Posted By: Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk Re: Stormwatch tpb - 2013-10-04 8:52 PM
D:
Posted By: First Amongst Daves Re: Stormwatch tpb - 2013-10-05 5:53 PM
I re-read it. Reads worse second time around. Peter Milligan, you can do better.
Posted By: klinton Re: Stormwatch tpb - 2013-10-05 5:59 PM
 Originally Posted By: First Amongst Daves
I re-read it. Reads worse second time around. Peter Milligan, you can do better.


Why would you do this to yourself? It was painful reading just the once.
Posted By: First Amongst Daves Re: Stormwatch tpb - 2013-10-05 6:01 PM
It was in the toilet and at hand.
Posted By: the G-man Re: Stormwatch tpb - 2013-10-05 7:18 PM
 Originally Posted By: First Amongst Daves
It was in the toilet and at hand.


Are we talking about the book or your dinner?
Posted By: First Amongst Daves Re: Stormwatch tpb - 2013-10-06 5:24 PM
Photos of you naked.


Sweetheart.
Posted By: Joey From Friends Re: Stormwatch tpb - 2013-10-06 11:35 PM
Big deal. G,sends everyone photos of him naked.
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