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Posted By: Wonder Boy The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-06-25 12:17 PM



Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-06-25 12:31 PM







Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-10-24 8:53 AM



The numbers will no doubt change in 2 weeks, but for now these are the numbers for the Democrats and Republicans in the Senate and Congress:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/115th_United_States_Congress


Democrats have been losing their lead in the last 2 weeks, because:

1) the Kavanaugh slanders and confirmation in spite of it,

2) Project Veritas exposing the lies within the campaigns of McCaskill, Hietkamp and Bredeson, where they say one thing to moderate voters, and then are exposed of lying in each case, saying they will govern moderately, but in truth will be "super liberal" if re-elected, doing the opposite in each case of what they campaigned on.

McCaskill:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPFE9jTByBE

Bredesen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9bjb46FtG0

Heitkamp:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQMP-l8eB6s

and

3) the "Caravan" of Central American refugees, that is lawlessly marauding toward our border, that has increased in size from 1,500 to 4,000 to 7,000 in just the last 2 or 3 days. The Democrat policies haave encouraged these Visigoths to try and break into our country. And have been completely silent about it. They are the party of lawlessness, sanctuary cities, and even welcoming MS-13. Not a word of compassion for the families of those killed and raped by illegals. Many of them illegals who have been repeatedly deported, who just defiantly break back into the U.S. again.


In each case, the Democrats are exposed as the corrupt liars they are. Except for Trump, the opposition to Democrats in the mid-terms has been pretty milquetoast. But rather than just campaign rhetoric, in each of these 3 cases, Democrats are simply exposed for the liars chaos-unleashing opportunists they are. The American people have seen this, and they are angered and repulsed.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-10-24 9:00 AM








Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-10-27 6:30 PM
I'm hopeful that the Dems can take the House. The senate would be really be nice but because of the seats in play it was always a long shot and it doesn't look like it's getting any closer.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-10-27 11:35 PM


I hope they lose, because at every stage they've demonstrated themselves to be malicious and ruthless, to fit the definition of evil.
1) Smearing Brett Kavanaugh and attempting to destroy his life just to block his nomination,
2) stoking violence and militant intolerance at every turn (and then incredibly blaming Trump for the toxic rhetoric),
3) Democrats' endorsement of illegal immigration and sanctuary cities for years, that has led to the mob of 14,000 illegals marching up to our border through Mexico, that if successful will be followed by wave after wave of similar mobs of illegals, in the tens of thousands.

4) Literally hundreds of incidents of Democrat violence against Republicans, mixed with plenty of other Democrat imtimidation and uncivility toward Republicans, that the Democrat leadership openly stokes and encourages.

5)Through George Soros and other elements of the radical Democrat/Left, literally trying to overthrow our constitutional democracy, to reign us into a North American Union and global government, where we cease to have contol of our own sovereignty and ability to militarily defend ourselves. As I've seen best laid out in THE SHADOW PARTY by David Horowitz and Richard Poe. Groups like Occupy Wall Street, Black Lives Matter, Antifa and the Open Borders movement perfectly mirror previous Soros-funded pseudo "grassroots" insurrections in countries like Hungary, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Ukraine, former-soviet Georgia, Kyrzygstan, Poland, Belorussia, Croatia and other eastern bloc and former soviet nations. The insideous revolutionary techniques Soros refined and used to overthrow these nations, he is now unleashing on the United States. And the Democrats are his eager and willing partners, his instrument of choice.

6) as I cited above, Project Veritas' exposure of multiple Democrat candidates' openly lying to their voters, intending to do the opposite of what they campaign they will do. And the staffers for these Democrats are (as caught on video) not only very aware of it, but gleefully proud of the deception by their party.

The Democrats deserve to lose. Your party is run by destructive maniacs and leftist radicals. Your party needs to lose, and lose badly, so that the current leadership is humiliated and burned to the ground, and from the ashes hopefully replaced by saner heads. It has the militant radicalism of the Bolshevik party, and it absolutely has to be destroyed.


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Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-10-28 5:26 AM
 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy


I hope they lose, because at every stage they've demonstrated themselves to be malicious and ruthless, to fit the definition of evil.
1) Smearing Brett Kavanaugh and attempting to destroy his life just to block his nomination,
2) stoking violence and militant intolerance at every turn (and then incredibly blaming Trump for the toxic rhetoric),
3) Democrats' endorsement of illegal immigration and sanctuary cities for years, that has led to the mob of 14,000 illegals marching up to our border through Mexico, that if successful will be followed by wave after wave of similar mobs of illegals, in the tens of thousands.

4) Literally hundreds of incidents of Democrat violence against Republicans, mixed with plenty of other Democrat imtimidation and uncivility toward Republicans, that the Democrat leadership openly stokes and encourages.

5)Through George Soros and other elements of the radical Democrat/Left, literally trying to overthrow our constitutional democracy, to reign us into a North American Union and global government, where we cease to have contol of our own sovereignty and ability to militarily defend ourselves. As I've seen best laid out in THE SHADOW PARTY by David Horowitz and Richard Poe. Groups like Occupy Wall Street, Black Lives Matter, Antifa and the Open Borders movement perfectly mirror previous Soros-funded pseudo "grassroots" insurrections in countries like Hungary, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Ukraine, former-soviet Georgia, Kyrzygstan, Poland, Belorussia, Croatia and other eastern bloc and former soviet nations. The insideous revolutionary techniques Soros refined and used to overthrow these nations, he is now unleashing on the United States. And the Democrats are his eager and willing partners, his instrument of choice.

6) as I cited above, Project Veritas' exposure of multiple Democrat candidates' openly lying to their voters, intending to do the opposite of what they campaign they will do. And the staffers for these Democrats are (as caught on video) not only very aware of it, but gleefully proud of the deception by their party.

The Democrats deserve to lose. Your party is run by destructive maniacs and leftist radicals. Your party needs to lose, and lose badly, so that the current leadership is humiliated and burned to the ground, and from the ashes hopefully replaced by saner heads. It has the militant radicalism of the Bolshevik party, and it absolutely has to be destroyed.




My side got those with medical preconditions protection they never had before. They also pushed and changed things so that I now have the legal right to marry the one I love. My side is not evil, that is your partisanship speaking. Bad eggs exist on both sides and Trump is unfortunately one of them. He is truly unfit for the office imho. And when you cast the other side as evil as Trump does he really can't be taken seriously when he calls for unity. Never mind that he attacked the media right after calling for unity.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-10-28 9:10 AM


 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy


I hope they lose, because at every stage they've demonstrated themselves to be malicious and ruthless, to fit the definition of evil.
1) Smearing Brett Kavanaugh and attempting to destroy his life just to block his nomination,
2) stoking violence and militant intolerance at every turn (and then incredibly blaming Trump for the toxic rhetoric),
3) Democrats' endorsement of illegal immigration and sanctuary cities for years, that has led to the mob of 14,000 illegals marching up to our border through Mexico, that if successful will be followed by wave after wave of similar mobs of illegals, in the tens of thousands.

4) Literally hundreds of incidents of Democrat violence against Republicans, mixed with plenty of other Democrat imtimidation and uncivility toward Republicans, that the Democrat leadership openly stokes and encourages.

5)Through George Soros and other elements of the radical Democrat/Left, literally trying to overthrow our constitutional democracy, to reign us into a North American Union and global government, where we cease to have contol of our own sovereignty and ability to militarily defend ourselves. As I've seen best laid out in THE SHADOW PARTY by David Horowitz and Richard Poe. Groups like Occupy Wall Street, Black Lives Matter, Antifa and the Open Borders movement perfectly mirror previous Soros-funded pseudo "grassroots" insurrections in countries like Hungary, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Ukraine, former-soviet Georgia, Kyrzygstan, Poland, Belorussia, Croatia and other eastern bloc and former soviet nations. The insideous revolutionary techniques Soros refined and used to overthrow these nations, he is now unleashing on the United States. And the Democrats are his eager and willing partners, his instrument of choice.

6) as I cited above, Project Veritas' exposure of multiple Democrat candidates' openly lying to their voters, intending to do the opposite of what they campaign they will do. And the staffers for these Democrats are (as caught on video) not only very aware of it, but gleefully proud of the deception by their party.

The Democrats deserve to lose. Your party is run by destructive maniacs and leftist radicals. Your party needs to lose, and lose badly, so that the current leadership is humiliated and burned to the ground, and from the ashes hopefully replaced by saner heads. It has the militant radicalism of the Bolshevik party, and it absolutely has to be destroyed.




My side got those with medical preconditions protection they never had before.


No. The Democrats snuck Obamacare through by changing all the rules and slipping it by, despite that 53% of voters polled said they didn't want it passed, but they rammed it through anyway. And that unpopularity rose to 56% a year after it was passed. Particularly the launch of Obamacare in 2013 was a disaster.

And beyond that, whatever people were helped, millions more who were promised they could keep their healthcare plan had their policies cancelled out from under them. I've watched countless stories of people who were receiving treatment for cancer and other diseases, and then suddenly lost their coverage. And the promise that they could keep their previous healthcare was a deliberate deception. As one of its chief architects Jonathan Gruber said, it "relied on the stupidity of the American voter" to get snuck past them.

Obamacare doesn't work, and it has doubled the cost, and raised the deductible to the point where most pay a high cost and yet never get any coverage or reimbursement. That kind of deceit is not the fruit of good people. It is just smoke and mirrors that allows the Democrats to say they passed a healthcare plan. But not one that actually helps people. It hurts more people than it helps.

 Originally Posted By: M E M
They also pushed and changed things so that I now have the legal right to marry the one I love.


Just pointing out...

GENESIS 18-19 (Sodom and Gommorah)
LEVITICUS 20:13 (Mosaic law: "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; Their blood will be on their own heads." )
ROMANS 1:18-32 ( 21: "Therefore God gave them over in sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another...")
1 CORINTHIANS 6:9-11 ( "...the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God. Neither the sexually immoral nor idolators nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders...)

...the Bible holds a different perspective of gay relationships than you do. And when codifying gay marriage in state/federal law is bought by persecution of Christian bakers and photographers, driving them out of business for not catering gay weddings, forcing others to endorse what their Bible tells them is immoral, and with gays acting as a political force to drive Christianity out of every aspect of American life, that is again the definition of evil, aligning with secularist/globalist forces that are the side of the Antichrist. You buy your gay marriage at a high price.


 Originally Posted By: M E M
My side is not evil, that is your partisanship speaking.


See my previous post and what I said above. Your side aligns with Antichristian forces, globalism, insurrection against the United States, lawlessness, slander, intimidation and violence. What could be more evil thsan that?

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 Originally Posted By: M E M
Bad eggs exist on both sides and Trump is unfortunately one of them.


All men are imperfect, and I'm less than thrilled with a lot of the establishment and never-Trumper Republicans who are also financed and loyal to lobbyist/globalist forces. But Trump for whatever flaws is pushing them every step of the way to do the right thing, for restoration of our sovereign government and Constitutional freedoms.

 Originally Posted By: M E M

He is truly unfit for the office imho.


Trump is the most accomplished president of my lifetime. He achieved 64% of his agenda in just his first year. (Next closest, Reagan at 53% in his first year.)
Lou Dobbs and several others routinely say Trump is the most accomplished president since FDR. He has rebuilt our economy, brought factories and jobs back to the United States, is rebuilding our military, securing better trade deals with all our major trading partners, and despite Democrat obstruction, is trying to secure our borders and keep out illegal immigrant invaders. Democrats would let the Vandals and Visigoths overwhelm us.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_c...ingly_long_list



 Originally Posted By: M E M
And when you cast the other side as evil as Trump does he really can't be taken seriously when he calls for unity. Never mind that he attacked the media right after calling for unity.



\:lol\:

Irony alert. Your side, and you personally, demonize Trump EVERY DAY!

The demagoguery begins on your side (and the liberal media) and Trump just responds to it.
Trump has repeatedly made offers to the Democrats on immigration and other issues, and your side slaps him away every time he tries to negotiate, because they don't want to give Trump any political victory. They choose partisanship over the American people.

It frankly pissed me off that Trump made a new call for civility just yesterday in the wake of the mail-bomber, and Schumer and Pelosi slapped him away, passing up yet another opportunity for both sides to turn down the rhetoric.

But if you're going to make the charge that Trump is a liar and a deceiver, the overwhelming evidence is that it is YOUR side that is deceitful and liars, and evil. See what I cited above.

Trump is a guy who has made promises and kept them.

Your side repeatedly tells the people one thing and then does the opposite, and then gloatingly laughs (caught on camera) about having deceived them to advance their hidden political goals.

Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-10-28 6:20 PM
You shovel a lot of crap about Obamacare but your side made a choice repeatedly to oppose it in every way possible instead of trying to to work with Dems to improve it. Note after so many years of trying to increase the number of uninsured by getting rid of Obamacare your side hasn't come up with a better plan to replace it with. We're coming up on 2 years of control and now we get the lies from Trump and toadies they are the party to protect people with pre-existing conditions and the Dems want to take them out. The Dems put that protection into the very law your party has a considerable historical record of voting against. And how many years does it take to come up with something better to replace it with btw? It's been almost 2 years where your party has had the power to do it. After all the lies and cries about overturning Obamacare it doesn't seem to be something the GOP is running on for this election.
As for the Bible quotes, the book has a lot more of them about adultery, lying, masturbation and not judging others to name a few. If a serial adulter like Trump can use marriage like toilet paper I certainly should be able to marry someone I actually will love and cherish. That is priceless to me. For all those that supported gay rights and made that possible even though they were not gay, to me that is America at it's greatest.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-10-30 4:32 AM



 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
You shovel a lot of crap about Obamacare but your side made a choice repeatedly to oppose it in every way possible instead of trying to to work with Dems to improve it. Note after so many years of trying to increase the number of uninsured by getting rid of Obamacare your side hasn't come up with a better plan to replace it with. We're coming up on 2 years of control and now we get the lies from Trump and toadies they are the party to protect people with pre-existing conditions and the Dems want to take them out. The Dems put that protection into the very law your party has a considerable historical record of voting against. And how many years does it take to come up with something better to replace it with btw? It's been almost 2 years where your party has had the power to do it. After all the lies and cries about overturning Obamacare it doesn't seem to be something the GOP is running on for this election.
As for the Bible quotes, the book has a lot more of them about adultery, lying, masturbation and not judging others to name a few. If a serial adulter like Trump can use marriage like toilet paper I certainly should be able to marry someone I actually will love and cherish. That is priceless to me. For all those that supported gay rights and made that possible even though they were not gay, to me that is America at it's greatest.



You try to hide the truth under lying DNC/MediaMatters propaganda, M E M.

Obamacare was collapsing under its own weight from the day it launched, without any Republican opposition to it.

More than that, OBAMACARE WAS DESIGNED IN ITS PLANNING TO COLLAPSE. Obama supported single payer but knew the American public would never support single payer, so they designed a system that would slowly collapse, and then when Hillary Clinton became president in Jan 2017 (didnt' quite work out that way, did it?) Hillary would bail out Obamacare with a single payer system, what Obama and the lying Democrats had planned all along.

I'll remind you of Jonathan Gruber's words, relying on "the stupidity of the American voter", for him and Obamacare's other planners. And by the American voter, they don't mean me who always opposed it, they mean YOU, M E M.

Even liberal Politifact rated Obama's assurances about being able to keep your healthcare plan, the "Lie of the Year".

It is you who is lying and "shoveling a lot of crap", M E M, not me or my side. You are at best delusional.

Your side, not mine, consistently relies on deceiving the American public to advance their agenda. And now beyond that, resorts to slander, intimidation and violence. You, the Bolshevik party, there is no difference.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-10-30 4:38 AM

AZ Sen Candidate Sinema "can't be talking about" Gun Bans; Says Arizonans Will "actually shoot you"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eH6ZSLvsak


Yet another Democrat candidate and her campaign staffers caught on video saying one thing to voters, and then behind the scenes openly gloating about how they will pursue ultra-liberal policy, the polar opposite of what they promise.

Democrats once again exposed as the party of deceit.
The party of evil.
The Bolshevik party.

Along with multiple incidents nationwide violent attacks on grassroots campaigns, on Republican candidates, and vandalism to Republican offices.
Slander, intimidation, violence whatever serves the Democrat revolution.
In every way, no separation, the Bolshevik party.

Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-10-30 4:39 AM
Trump lies about preexisting conditions

Explain that WB
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-10-30 4:53 AM



 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man


First off, I notice you didn't even TRY to dispute what I said about the foundation of lies and deception that Obamacare is built on. You ignore that the entire structure is built on lies, to find one tiny piece of that lie that Trump was perhaps innacurate on.

Millions more have lost their healthcare plan because of Obamacare and are uninsured, than there are insured and could even potentially lose insurance for a pre-existing condition.

And Trump's plan (he has had much else that he had to restore that Obama has destroyed) was always to develop a replacement for Obamacare, that DOES cover pre-existing conditions. There is only so much he can accomplish in less than 2 years. And Trump has achieved an incredible amount, 64% of his agenda in just his first year (next closest, Reagan at 53% his first year). No other president in my lifetime has fulfilled their campaign promises as thoroughly as Trump has.

And lastly, Politifact is part of the Tampa Tribune, a rabidly Left/Democrat paper. It is no surprise they would sling something like that, particularly right before an election. The surprise is not when they attack Trump, the surprise is the rare exception when truth compels them to hold Democrats accountable. Such as Obama saying "you can keep your healthcare plan" reported by Politifact as "Lie of the Year."



Posted By: Captain Sammitch Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-10-31 1:30 AM
 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy

Just pointing out...

GENESIS 18-19 (Sodom and Gommorah)
LEVITICUS 20:13 (Mosaic law: "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; Their blood will be on their own heads." )
ROMANS 1:18-32 ( 21: "Therefore God gave them over in sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another...")
1 CORINTHIANS 6:9-11 ( "...the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God. Neither the sexually immoral nor idolators nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders...)

...the Bible holds a different perspective of gay relationships than you do.




I took you off ignore for this? The amusement value of seeing such an amateurish attempt at theology would be worth it if it didn't involve yet another embarrassment to my faith clumsily wielding decontextualized verses to spew hate. Seriously, fuck off.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-10-31 6:49 AM

Those are the verses from the Bible. Despite your condescending theological snobbery, those are what the verses clearly say. Every Christian with a concordance in their Bible does the same thing I just did to understand the Biblical view on any issue, whether confession or faith or forgiveness. Or homosexuality.

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GENESIS 18-19 (Sodom and Gommorah)


There may be additional contexts, but that is unmistakeably a condemnation of sodomy and the killing of homosexuals by God for their extreme depravity.

 Quote:

LEVITICUS 20:13 (Mosaic law: "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; Their blood will be on their own heads." )


Again, an unmistakeable condemnation of homosexuality.

 Quote:

ROMANS 1:18-32 ( 21: "Therefore God gave them over in sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another...")


Again, no further explanation needed.

 Quote:

1 CORINTHIANS 6:9-11 ( "...the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God. Neither the sexually immoral nor idolators nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders...)


Again, while other transgressions are listed, the condemnation of homosexuality among them is unmistakeable.


Aside from taking shots and trollishly \:lol\:-ing me with no lucid point... what is your point?
MY point is that M E M is part of a political group of gay activist liberals who side against Christianity and the Christian foundations of our nation at every turn, and then has the audacity to talk about his Republican/conservative political opposition being "evil".
My point is that if the term "evil" is going to be slung around, it's pretty clear that his side, secularist Democrat/liberals, chooses to be in Satan's army and advance an anti-Christian culture. Which is the very definition of "evil".





I also think it's infantile that you felt a need to put me on Ignore.
The only three people I ever put on Ignore (in roughly 17 years here) were Rex, Pro and Iggy, and for clearly stated reasons, that they antagonized me on pretty much every post I made for months, and in Rex's case, years before I felt the need.
You come out of the woodwork once a year or so to hurl insults at me, and generally never make a lucid point beyond the insults. You vaguely express a dislike for my posts, but never seem able to articulate what it is I do you dislike. I quote statistical facts and cite sources, and you basically say I'm a racist, despite that I cite facts to support my views and you don't. I recall I sent you a private message to reasonably work things out 7 or 8 years ago when you first started lashing out at me, and you started topics and posted my PM to \:lol\: me for trying to be reasonable with you.

Ironically, YOU'RE the troll, and yet you put me on "Ignore".

Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-10-31 7:08 AM



Life, Liberty & Levin, 10-28-2018 Sunday Levin inteviews Newt Gingrich for the hour. On the recent history of Republican conservatism, and the stakes in the current Nov 2018 election
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9V8T7TFOfs

I don't think there's anyone Levin could have interviewed whose opinion would interest me more.
Well, maybe Pat Buchanan.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-03 2:03 AM



"The word 'racist' is being used by Democrats on every Republican candidate who is winning."
--Donald Trump, on the mid-term campaign
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-03 3:31 AM



Gillum Staffer Says Voters "not for them to know” [that Gillum's] promises won’t happen; [and] FL [is a] “f***ed" cracker state”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di3WRRHRWlE


Among all these Project Veritas videos, the Democrats display:
1) a consistent pattern of lying and deceiving their voters, campaigning on one thing, while actually pursuing a secret agenda.
2) not just the candidates, but their entire staff are aware of and completely supportive of the deception, and are laughing at those constituents stupid enough to vote for them.


Beyond that, the media is largely not covering these project Veritas exposures of Democrat candidates, and are therefore part of their deception, and an active part of the DNC disguised as journalists. Or as a certain billionaire president terms it, "fake news".


Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-03 3:47 PM

"I'm all for it...just win, baby" - Pelosi on Dem candidates who oppose her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smtHzfFXrtE


I know Pelosi has said this several other times, that any deception by her fellow Dems of not supporting her is OK with her, whatever will get them elected to do whatever serves the party (even though they will support Pelosi and Schumer regardless, whatever it takes, "Just win, baby." )

Lying to voters and pursuing an agenda once elected that is polar opposite what they campaigned on, the Democrat way.
Score another "win" for the party of Evil.



Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-03 8:23 PM



IS THIS WORSE THAN 1968?

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Saturday, in Pittsburgh, a Sabbath celebration at the Tree of Life synagogue became the site of the largest mass murder of Jews in U.S. history. Eleven worshippers were killed by a racist gunman.

Friday, we learned the identity of the crazed criminal who mailed pipe bombs to a dozen leaders of the Democratic Party, including Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden.

From restaurants to Capitol corridors, this campaign season we have seen ugly face-offs between leftist radicals and Republican senators.

Are we more divided than we have ever been? Are our politics more poisoned? Are we living in what Charles Dickens called “the worst of times” in America? Is today worse than 1968?

Certainly, the hatred and hostility, the bile and bitterness of our discourse, seem greater now than 50 years ago. But are the times really worse?

1968 began with one of the greatest humiliations in the history of the American Navy. The U.S. spy ship Pueblo was hijacked in international waters and its crew interned by North Korea.

A week later came the Tet Offensive, where every provincial capital in South Vietnam was attacked. A thousand U.S. troops died in February, 10,000 more through 1968.

On March 14, anti-war Senator Gene McCarthy captured 42 percent of the vote in New Hampshire against President Johnson.

With LBJ wounded, Robert Kennedy leapt into the race, accusing the president who had enacted civil rights of “dividing the country” and removing himself from “the enduring and generous impulses that are the soul of this nation.” Lyndon Johnson, said Kennedy, is “calling upon the darker impulses of the American spirit.”

Today, RFK is remembered as a “uniter.”

With Gov. George Wallace tearing at Johnson from the right and Kennedy and McCarthy attacking from the left — and Nixon having cleared the Republican field with a landslide in New Hampshire — LBJ announced on March 31 he would not run again.

Four days later, Martin Luther King, leading a strike of garbage workers, was assassinated in Memphis. One hundred U.S. cities exploded in looting, arson and riots. The National Guard was called up everywhere and federal troops rushed to protect Washington, D.C., long corridors of which were gutted, not to be rebuilt for a generation.

Before April’s end, Columbia University had exploded in the worst student uprising of the decade. It was put down only after the NYPD was unleashed on the campus.

Nixon called the Columbia takeover by black and white radicals “the first major skirmish in a revolutionary struggle to seize the universities of this country and transform them into sanctuaries for radicals and vehicles for revolutionary political and social goals.” Which many have since become.

In June, Kennedy, after defeating McCarthy in the crucial primary of California, was mortally wounded in the kitchen of the hotel where he had declared victory. He was buried in Arlington beside JFK.

Nixon, who had swept every primary, was nominated on the first ballot in Miami Beach, and the Democratic Convention was set for late August.

Between the conventions, Soviet Premier Leonid Brezhnev sent his Warsaw Pact armies and hundreds of tanks into Czechoslovakia to crush the peaceful uprising known as “Prague Spring.”

With this bloodiest of military crackdowns since the Hungarian Revolution of 1956, Moscow sent a message to the West: There will be no going back in Europe. Once a Communist state, always a Communist state!

At the Democratic convention in Chicago, the thousands of radicals who had come to raise hell congregated nightly in Grant Park, across from the Hilton where the candidates and this writer were staying.

Baited day and night, the Chicago cops defending the hotel, by late in the week, had had enough. Early one evening, platoons of fresh police arrived and charged into the park clubbing and arresting scores of radicals as the TV cameras rolled. It would be called a “police riot.”

When Sen. Abe Ribicoff took the podium that night, he directed his glare at Mayor Richard J. Daley, accusing him of using “Gestapo tactics in the streets of Chicago.” Daley’s reply from the floor was unprintable.

Through September, Democratic candidate Hubert Humphrey could not speak at a rally without being cursed and shouted down.

Describing the radicals disrupting his every event, Humphrey said, these people “aren’t just hecklers,” but “highly disciplined, well-organized agitators. … Some are anarchists and some of these groups are dedicated to destroying the Democratic Party and destroying the country.”

After his slim victory, Nixon declared that his government would take as its theme the words on a girl’s placard that he had seen in the Ohio town of Deshler: “Bring us together.”

Nixon tried in his first months, but it was not to be.

According to Bryan Burrough, author of “Days of Rage, America’s Radical Underground, the FBI, and the Forgotten Age of Revolutionary Violence,” “During an eighteen month period in 1971 and 1972, the FBI reported more than 2,500 bombings on U.S. soil, nearly 5 a day.”

No, 2018 is not 1968, at least not yet.

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Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-06 4:25 AM


intern Shelby Shoup, for governor candidate Andrew Gillum (D-FL), arrested for throwing milk at College Republicans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3up0u_PPDAw




More uncivility of the left, in such a hissy-fit rage she was throwing stuff at grassroots Republicans campaigning for their candidate. Which is assault.

More violent intolerance, although she's so whiny I don't really consider her dangerous. As opposed to the over 600 incidents of actual violence by Democrats, including beating up Republicans just for wearing "make America great again" hats, and two weeks ago sucker-punching a Republican candidate so hard it gave him a concussion.
The whiny intern is unhinged with hatred of Republicans, calling them across the board Nazis. Despite that hers is the party of anti-semitism and not supporting Israel.

It perfectly sets the tone for the mid-term election tomorrow. Democrats, the party of uncivility, mob violence, socialism/marxism, open borders and chaos.

Posted By: the G-man Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-06 5:51 AM
The party in the White House typically loses seats in a midterm election.

I figure it's more likely than not the D's eke a win in the House but the GOP holds a narrow lead in the Senate.

I guess we'll know tomorrow.
Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-06 7:40 AM
That is the popular prediction. Lots of big turn out in the early voting so there is a good chance for some big surprises breaking either way. I don't talk politics at work but already had one person inform me that she voted for America. I told her I did too. Than told her we were not going to change the other person's mind so let's just keep working.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-06 9:05 AM


I was going to write a closing argument, but I said it well enough earlier:

 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy


I hope they lose, because at every stage they've demonstrated themselves to be malicious and ruthless, to fit the definition of evil.
1) Smearing Brett Kavanaugh and attempting to destroy his life just to block his nomination,
2) stoking violence and militant intolerance at every turn (and then incredibly blaming Trump for the toxic rhetoric),
3) Democrats' endorsement of illegal immigration and sanctuary cities for years, that has led to the mob of 14,000 illegals marching up to our border through Mexico, that if successful will be followed by wave after wave of similar mobs of illegals, in the tens of thousands.

4) Literally hundreds of incidents of Democrat violence against Republicans, mixed with plenty of other Democrat imtimidation and uncivility toward Republicans, that the Democrat leadership openly stokes and encourages.

5)Through George Soros and other elements of the radical Democrat/Left, literally trying to overthrow our constitutional democracy, to reign us into a North American Union and global government, where we cease to have contol of our own sovereignty and ability to militarily defend ourselves. As I've seen best laid out in THE SHADOW PARTY by David Horowitz and Richard Poe. Groups like Occupy Wall Street, Black Lives Matter, Antifa and the Open Borders movement perfectly mirror previous Soros-funded pseudo "grassroots" insurrections in countries like Hungary, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Ukraine, former-soviet Georgia, Kyrzygstan, Poland, Belorussia, Croatia and other eastern bloc and former soviet nations. The insideous revolutionary techniques Soros refined and used to overthrow these nations, he is now unleashing on the United States. And the Democrats are his eager and willing partners, his instrument of choice.

6) as I cited above, Project Veritas' exposure of multiple Democrat candidates' openly lying to their voters, intending to do the opposite of what they campaign they will do. And the staffers for these Democrats are (as caught on video) not only very aware of it, but gleefully proud of the deception by their party.

The Democrats deserve to lose. Your party is run by destructive maniacs and leftist radicals. Your party needs to lose, and lose badly, so that the current leadership is humiliated and burned to the ground, and from the ashes hopefully replaced by saner heads. It has the militant radicalism of the Bolshevik party, and it absolutely has to be destroyed.




The Democrats might squeak out a narrow victory in the House and in other races, based on effective smear tactics and demagoguery. But they richly deserve to lose.

I know the polls favor the Democrats to win the House, but it's almost inconceivable to me they could win, their lies so much on display (the Brett Kavanaugh nomination, and Project Veritas exposures of multiple candidates reveaaled to be lying to voters and planning to do the opposite of what they promise campaigning, to name just two examples).
Especially with how miraculously Trump is handling the economy, the best in roughly 50 years now. Better now than under Obama, W. Bush, or Clinton. Better now even than Reagan! I'd find it quite odd for Republicans to lose based on that record.

I hope the Democrats don't just lose tomorrow, but are humiliated, destroyed.
They deserve to lose. The country needs them to lose.

Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-06 4:10 PM



Tucker Carlson, 11-5-2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO4xXs35GPo


Carlson's entire show last night was outstanding, but especcially about what the real issues are. 1) Immigration is the most important issue because it determines what our nation will be in 5, 10, 20, or 40 years. Or if Democrats and their globalist masters will be successful in importing a foreign electorate to vote against our national interests. 2) The stock market for the weaalthiest have grown over the last 15 years, while the middle class and poor have declined economically. That in spite of establishment corporate/globalist maajorities in both parties, Trump is the first in at least 2 decades to advance the best interests, and incomes, of the middle class and poor. 3) Nationalism vs. globalism. Slandered as nativist and nazi, Trump's focus is simply defending U.S. national interests over globalist interests that Trump's four predecessors were selling us out to.

Ann Coulter's commentary after was both insightful and hilarious.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-07 4:41 PM


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dems-to...ment-talks-loom

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/battleg...midterm-defeats




Despite Democrats winning a narrow majority in the House, I'm immensely pleased overall with the mid-term outcome.

Rick Scott unseated Bill Nelson.

Ron Desantis beat Andrew Gillum as Florida governor.
Kemp beat Abrams as Georgia governor.
(The last two unsuccessful Democrats among the most corrupt and race-baiting since Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Barack Obama. Wonderfully, their political futures were just killed in the womb.)

Beto O'Rourke defeated by Ted Cruz, despite the Democrats pouring over $80 million into the effort to defeat Cruz, the most expensive Senate race in U.S. history.

McSally beat Sinema for the Arizona Senate.
Heitkamp.
McCaskill.
Bredeson.

All the most far-Left Democrat candidates, all the race-baiters, all the Democrat slanderers who went after Kavanaugh, all the most unprincipled Democrats who (and their staff) knowingly lied to their voters about intending to do the opposite of what they campaigned promising and gloating about it, laughing at their own voters (on video, thank you Project Veritas!) and were exposed, ALL of them lost yesterday.

Right now, the final count not quite done, it looks like the Dems have the narrowest of House majorities at 219, while the Republicans appear to have gained a 54-seat Senate majority (52 confirmed, plus 2 leading but "too close to call").

And all the governors and then some that I hoped would win.
With a modest victory in the House, the Democrats can pull off some harassing of Trump, but still have no real power. And if they go as crazy-Left with impeachment and other caampaign-vowed House investigations of Trump, they will just play right into Trump's hand for the 2020 election.



Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-07 5:02 PM


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-new...d-in-the-senate

 Quote:

In an election reflecting the country’s deep partisan divide, voters across America handed the keys to the House of Representatives to the Democrats, while Republicans took advantage of a favorable Senate map to expand on their majority in the Senate.

It was an unusual but not unprecedented outcome for a midterm election. The House and Senate have moved in opposite directions in a midterm just three times since World War II. The last time was 1982, when Democrats gained 27 seats in the House and Republicans picked up one in the Senate.

Democrats picked up more than 30 House seats, gaining control of the lower chamber for the first time since the party’s self-described “shellacking” in 2010. The vote – at least for the House – served as a rebuke to President Donald Trump, as more said their vote was intended to express opposition to Trump than support for him.

The battle for the Senate was largely fought in states Trump won in 2016 and where voters still have a favorable opinion of the president. Those tailwinds were critical for the GOP, which expanded on its majority in the upper chamber.

The gender gap – a prominent feature of the last several elections – was a notable factor in this year’s House races as well. Women preferred Democratic candidates by a 14-point margin, while men picked Republicans by six points.


College-educated women (+26 points) and suburban women (+17 points) both went strongly for Democrats, but white women backed Republicans by a four-point margin.

The urban-rural divide was even more notable, as city dwellers backed Democrats by 34 points, while rural voters went for Republicans (+16 points).

A strong showing from younger voters and nonwhites also helped tip the scales to the left. Voters under age 30 made up 12 percent of the electorate, and they backed Democrats by 25 points.

Democratic candidates also racked up large margins among black voters (+79 points) and Hispanics (+29 points).

White voters broke for Republicans, 53-42 percent. In particular, the GOP held double-digit advantages with white working-class voters (+21 points), white men (+19 points), and whites over age 45 (+17 points).

Republican candidates also chalked up wide wins among gun owner households (+22 points), white evangelicals (+61 points), and conservatives (+72 points). But strong base support was not enough for Republicans to hold the House, as moderates favored Democrats, 57-35 percent.

Nearly all Democrats (95 percent) voted blue, while Republicans went red at a slightly lower clip (91 percent). That difference in party loyalty, combined with a 9-point Democratic edge among independents, proved decisive.



THE KEY ISSUES

The top issues in voters’ minds this election were health care (26 percent) and immigration (23 percent). The economy placed third at 19 percent.

Health care voters favored House Democratic candidates by a 50-point margin, and Democrats also had sizable advantages among those most concerned with gun policy (+61 points) and the environment (+72 points). Republicans won immigration voters by a wide margin (+58 points) and economy voters by a narrower 58-36 percent spread.

Just over half of voters (52 percent) would repeal all or part of the Affordable Care Act, and these voters broke for Republicans by 56 points. Nearly as many would either leave the law as is (13 percent) or expand it (34 percent). They backed Democrats by an even wider margin (+73 points).

Overall, more voters said it should be the government’s responsibility to provide health care for all Americans (58 percent) than said it should not (41 percent).

The president focused on immigration down the home stretch of the campaign, and immigration voters broke for Republicans. But overall, voters were more likely to think immigrants help the country (59 percent) than hurt it (39 percent), and more opposed Trump’s signature border wall proposal (47 percent favor vs. 52 percent oppose).

By a 39-point margin, voters believed immigrants living in the U.S. illegally should be offered a chance to apply for legal status, not deported.

The focus on immigration may have shifted attention away from the economy. Strong October jobs numbers brought unemployment to its lowest level in nearly 50 years, and voters were more likely to give positive ratings on the economy than negative ones.

Those who gave a positive grade to the economy opted for Republicans (+24 points), while voters with a negative view broke for Democrats (+56 points).

Despite the strong economy, a majority of voters – 63 percent – said they are holding steady financially, far more than the 20 percent who are getting ahead.

Seven-in-ten voters (70 percent) said the country’s economic system favors the wealthy too much. A similar number said the economy does not do enough to favor the middle class (69 percent) or the poor (63 percent).

Reactions to Trump’s economic accomplishments were mixed. The 2017 tax reform law were evenly split (48 percent approve and 48 percent disapprove), but more voters thought Trump’s policies on trade have hurt the national economy (48 percent) than helped it (40 percent).

The bitter battle over Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination to the Supreme Court was, without a doubt, a motivating factor for voters. Three-quarters (74 percent) said the debate was important to their decision to vote. Nationally, these voters backed Democrats by a 52-43 percent spread – but broke for the Republican in several hotly contested Senate races.

The dramatic nomination hearings amplified the national conversation about sexual misconduct. In the aftermath, voters expressed concern about women not being believed when making allegations of misconduct (43 percent very concerned) and about men not having the opportunity to defend themselves (38 percent).


OPINIONS OF DONALD TRUMP

Midterm elections are often seen as referendums on the sitting president, and fully 63 percent said Trump was a factor to their vote this year. By an eleven-point margin, more said they voted to express opposition to Trump than support for him.

That tracks with views of Trump nationally, as a 54-45 percent majority disapproved of the job he is doing as president.

The vast majority of Trump approvers voted for Republican House candidates (86 percent), and a similar number of disapprovers went for Democrats (83 percent).

Trump’s midterm report card on the issues might not be one to pin on the fridge. Voters gave net negative ratings on his handling of health care (-16 points), immigration (-8 points), international trade (-7 points), and Supreme Court nominations (-1 points). He was in positive territory on the economy (+8 points) and border security (+1 point).

On the list of positives for the Commander-in-Chief, an overwhelming majority said he stands up for what he believes in (72 percent). However, majorities also indicated he lacks the temperament for the job (64 percent), is not honest and trustworthy (62 percent), and does not care about people like them (58 percent).

What does all that mean for his reelection prospects? With two full years before the next presidential election, more voters said they would back a Democrat (41 percent) than would back Trump (34 percent). But a sizable bloc said it would depend (24 percent), and those voters broke for Republican House candidates 50-35 percent.



MOOD OF THE COUNTRY

Democrats’ win in the House came as large numbers of voters expressed concern about the future. A majority (56 percent) said the country is headed in the wrong direction, and voters thought life for the next generation would be worse rather than better by 25 points.

Pre-election violence and disorder likely contributed to the feeling that things are off the rails. Voters said the way partisans on both sides talk about politics is leading to an increase in violence. However, 37 percent only blamed Republicans, compared to 30 percent who only blamed Democrats.

The depths of the partisan divide go even deeper. Just 13 percent of Republicans thought Democrats mostly try to do what’s right for the country instead of what’s best for their party. Democrats took a similar view of Republicans (11 percent). Independents gave Democrats slightly more credit than Republicans for trying to do the right thing (39-35 percent) – but did not have a particularly charitable view of either side.

One area of bipartisan agreement: only two-in-ten voters (19 percent) said they trust the government to do what’s right most of the time. That explains why more than seven-in-ten (71 percent) were either dissatisfied or angry about the way the federal government is working.



NONVOTERS

The election outcome depends on who turns out, as well as who stays home. So what about those who didn’t cast a ballot this year? Unlike a traditional exit poll, the Fox News Voter Analysis surveyed nonvoters as well, and provides a window into who decided not to vote, why not, and how they would have voted if they had turned out.

Demographically, nonvoters were more likely to be younger, nonwhite, without a college education, and politically independent.

Nonvoters were also more likely to have voted for Trump in 2016 (47 percent for the president and 33 percent for Clinton), suggesting that Trump voters were more likely to stay home this year than Clinton voters.

If they had made it to the ballot box, the overall group of nonvoters said they would have opted for the Democratic candidate in their district by a 36-32 percent margin.

As for why they didn’t vote, the top reasons were not knowing enough about the candidates (30 percent), not liking politics (30 percent), and the feeling that their vote did not matter (14 percent).

While voter identification laws became a flash point in several campaigns, most notably in the contest for governor in Georgia, just three percent of nonvoters said they did not vote because they lacked the proper identification.



FLORIDA

The Sunshine State – also known as the home of close contests. Trump won in 2016 by a little over 1 percentage point. In 2012, Obama won by slightly less than 1 percentage point. And who could forget 2000, when George W. Bush won by a hanging chad?

Tonight, Republicans eked out two close wins. In the race for governor, former U.S. Representative Ron DeSantis edged out Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillum. And in the Senate, former Governor Rick Scott unseated incumbent Bill Nelson.


President Trump was not on the ballot, but voters used their votes to send a message. Two-thirds (65 percent) said the president was a factor in the race for Senate, but he may not like the effect he had on it, as more voted in opposition to Trump than in support of him (36 percent to 29 percent). Nine-in-ten voters (91 percent) had the eventual control of the senate on their minds.

Florida voters differed on the top issue facing the country. Roughly a quarter said immigration (26 percent) was the top issue, and another quarter cited health care (24 percent). The economy came in third, at 17 percent. Health care voters broke three-to-one for Nelson; 80% of immigration voters went for Scott; economy voters went two-to-one for Scott.



GUN POLICY SELECTED BY 10 PERCENT OF VOTERS

Gun violence has rocked Florida repeatedly, including the Pulse nightclub shooting, Parkland, and most recently a shooting at a yoga studio. Fully 68 percent want stricter gun laws. These voters must feel Governor Scott did not do enough here, as 68 percent of them went for Nelson.

Both candidates had a record on healthcare: Nelson voted against repealing ObamaCare, while Scott declined to expand Medicaid as governor. Like the candidates, voters differed on repealing the Affordable Care Act: 54 percent favored repeal and 45 percent wanted to leave it as is or expand the law.

Most Florida voters (67 percent) felt immigrants living in the U.S. should be given a path to citizenship. Far fewer (31 percent) said illegal immigrants should be deported back to the country them came from. A majority also said immigrants do more to help the country; few felt they hurt.

Hispanic voters, a sizeable group whose support was sought by both parties, went narrowly for Nelson (51-44 percent). Seniors broke for Scott. Young people, a smaller percentage of the electorate than seniors, sided with Nelson.



INDIANA

In Indiana, Republican challenger Mike Braun flipped the Senate seat held by Democrat Joe Donnelly in a state President Trump carried by 19 points in 2016.

Women voters were expected to have an impact in these midterm elections, but for Braun it was men who made a difference. Men and women each made up half of the Indiana electorate, but men went for Braun 55 percent to 40 percent.

Women went narrowly for Braun as well, with 49 percent to Donnelly’s 46 percent.

Independents were also expected to play a key role in tight races like Indiana’s, but in this case they went for the losing candidate. Republicans, however, made up a larger share of the electorate – 54 percent, compared to 33 percent for Democrats and 13 percent for Independents. And those voters went for Braun.

The debate over the Kavanaugh nomination to the Supreme Court was important to 77 percent of Indiana voters, and among those voters 54 percent went for Braun over 44 percent for Donnelly.



MISSOURI

Democrat Claire McCaskill lost her Senate seat to Republican challenger Josh Hawley. In a state President Trump carried by 18 points in 2016, McCaskill’s attempts to distance herself from far-left elements of the Democratic party in the final weeks of the campaign turned out not to be enough.

President Trump told voters to act as though he were on the ballot, and Missouri voters took that to heart. Fifty-four percent of them approve of the job he is doing – and they broke big for Hawley, 87 percent of them.

Among the top issues for Missouri voters was the economy, and more than two-thirds of them are feeling pretty good about it. Those voters broke for Hawley 65 percent to 31 percent for McCaskill.

The Kavanaugh Supreme Court nomination was also an important issue to 74 percent of Missouri voters. Those voters broke for Hawley by a five point margin.



TEXAS

Incumbent Republican senator Ted Cruz held his seat after a bruising battle with Democrat Beto O’Rourke. The two men represented opposite ends of the political spectrum. Fully half said O’Rourke’s positions on the issues were too liberal.

O’Rourke was for expanding ObamaCare; Cruz staged the infamous 2013 filibuster during the Senate debate on the Affordable Care Act, and voted to repeal it. Texas voters agreed with Cruz: a strong majority, 57 percent, favor repealing all or parts of that law and they gave Cruz 78 percent of their votes.

A narrow majority of Texans backed the president’s plan for a border wall, and these voters gave Cruz 90 percent of their votes. Ten percent of anti-wall voters backed Cruz as well. Fifty-five percent approve of the job Trump has done on border security.

Half the households in Texas reported owning guns. Cruz, a gun-rights supporter, garnered support from 58 percent of gun households. O’Rourke, who ran on universal background checks, was supported by 39 percent.

Party control of the senate was very important to three-quarters of Texans. These voters broke slightly for Cruz.

Hispanics were almost one-quarter of the electorate. They strongly favored O’Rourke, 67 percent to 29 percent. White men, about one-third of the voters, went for Cruz 70 percent to 28 percent. Voters in small towns and rural areas favored Cruz, too, 61 percent to 36 percent.



METHODOLOGY

The FNVA is a survey of the American electorate conducted in all 50 states by NORC at the University of Chicago for Fox News and The Associated Press. The survey of 116,789 voters and 22,137 nonvoters was conducted Oct. 29 to Nov. 6, concluding at the end of voting on Election Day. It combines interviews in English and Spanish with a probability sample of registered voters drawn from state voter files, samples of self-identified registered voters from a probability-based national panel, and samples of self-identified registered voters from opt-in online panels. Participants selected from state voter files were contacted by phone and mail and had the opportunity to take the survey by phone or online.



Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-11 4:25 PM


God, unbeleivable.

Since Tuesday when the results were clear and Republicans had beaten Democrats:

1) Stacey Abrams (after unsuccessfully trying every other dirty trick and race-baiting slander during the election) is challlenging governor-elect Brian Kemp's victory in Georgia alleging election fraud. When you can't win legitimately, burn public confidence in the election process to the ground.

2) In the two Florida races:
Incumbent Sen Bill Nelson, who was narrowly but soundly beaten by Rick Scott in the Senator race, and Andrew Gillum who was beaten by an even larger margin by Ron Desantis for governor, suddenly days after the election see their margins threatened or possibly overturned by fraudulent ballots appearing out of nowhere, with no legal chain of custody, all in Broward and Palm Beach counties, under a supervisor of elections with 18 years of known vote-tampering schemes. Rick Scott, who won with a margin of 60,000 votes on Tuesday, has seen his margin drop to a 15,000 vote margin. With more manufactured "newly discovered' ballots emerging to be counted.
How any Democrat could endorse this as legitimate is a beyond belief.

3) In Arizona, where Martha McSally had narrowly beaten leftist nutjob Kyrsten Sinema, suddenly a few days after the election, "uncounted" ballots have again come out of nowhere, and in this case the margin was narrow enough that Sinema is now has a 30,000 vote lead, with more newly-emerged uncounted votes left to be counted.


Mighty suspicious, that after-the-fact in ALL these close battleground states, ballots after the fact have surfaced to reverse the election result, and in each of these 3 the result is to overturn the election in the Democrat candidate's favor. And in each case, the votes have an unclear chain of legal custody that reeks of vote-tampering.

I also just saw an interview of Andrew Pollack, the father of one of the girls killed at Stoneman Douglas High school, who was protesting outside the Supervisor of Elections' office in Fort Lauderdale (OAN, One America News). Pollack said this just manifests another spectacle of the Democrat corruption that has a stranglehold over Broward county (schoolboard commission, sherrif's office, supervisor of elections, county commissioners). He said that he spoke to prison officials, and they told him that for the first time Democrat activists had come into the prisons to do voter drives, allowing incarcerated criminals to vote from prison, and signed their address as the penitentiary. And that one of the prisoners who just registered and voted was the guy who killed his daughter. Just obscene.

Democrats once again proving they are the party of corruption. Score another victory in sheer audacity for the Bolsheviks of the Democrat party.


Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-11 6:09 PM


I was doing a bit of additional reading on Stacey Abrams. A long puff piece in the NY Times praising her brilliance in Georgia government before running for governor. In sharp contrast to black-centric radicalism I've seen throughout her campaign. Like Andrew Gillum in Florida, she seems to be a black politician who, far from rallying all sides together with moderate rhetoric, pulls the race card at every opportunity, and stokes division along racial lines to rally her base.

Tucker Carlson pointed this out in a two-minute clip:

Tucker Carlson, Oct 25, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA3-pmibbC0


In the cases of both Gillum and Abrams, they are leaders who would further damage race relations, and they are burning down the house on their way out after losing. And attempting to damage public faith in our election system in the process.

Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-11 6:13 PM
Do some reading and the lag is in mail in ballots and provisional ballots. I'm guessing it's not going to change the results in Florida but we'll see where the vote totals are after the counting is done in razor thin election. Love seeing Trump lose his shit vs the initial sad spin the fat piece of shit always spews.
Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-11 6:24 PM
It was nice seeing some gay people win btw. Walker losing in Wisconsin felt good! And Trump is going to have to deal with actual oversight.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-12 8:29 PM
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
Do some reading and the lag is in mail in ballots and provisional ballots. I'm guessing it's not going to change the results in Florida but we'll see where the vote totals are after the counting is done in razor thin election. Love seeing Trump lose his shit vs the initial sad spin the fat piece of shit always spews.


If the votes were following a legitimate legal "path of custody" I'd believe that. But witnesses who attemtped to videotape it saw a truck appear in the dead of night with no legal escort from the Sheriff's office to assure the votes were not tampered with. and thugs told those videotaping they were violating security by videotaping it. It appeared to be a rental truck and not a legitimate state election vehicle (i.e., Democrat vote tampering, delivering fraudulent votes to be counted in the thousands).

Add to that the multiple rigged previous elections in the Broward and Palm Beach country supervisor of elections office. Or at best, highly questionable and muddied by incompetence. But I lean toward rigged, since the "incompetence" always favors the Democrat side.

Add to that the lawyer representing the Democrats is the same lawyer who helped Al Franken cheat to win in Minnesota. Where Coleman had beaten Franken by several hundred votes, and Dems just whipped votes out of thin air to hand the election to Franken.


Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-12 8:38 PM


My favorite commentary on the election was Greg Gutfeld's show on Saturday.

Greg Gutfeld, 11-10-2018, Saturday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Pkv5lvW-xs


Especially the contrast in the opening 10 minutes of what happens when Democrats lose elections (rage, violence, riots, smashing windows), as compared to when Republicans (at least partially) lost the House in the midterm (sleeping kitties and dogs cuddling).

With humor, it speaks a lot of truth.


Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-12 8:46 PM


And remember when Democrats all said they wouldn't support Pelosi as leader before the election? They're all voting for Pelosi as speaker after the election.
THE DEMOCRAT WAY: lie, say whatever it takes to get elected, then pursue your true agenda, the opposite of what you camaigned on, after winning. There's a reason none of the liberal media networks covered Project Veritas' exposures of Bredeson, Heitkamp, Sinema, McCaskill and Gillum. But most of those candidates lost anyway. But wider exposure of the universal practice of Democrat deception probably would have resulted in other Democrats losing. But since they weren't, they got to deceive the public and get elected.


Pelosi was asked by a liberal reporter what she thought her chances are of being re-elected Speaker. With a cynical griun she said "100%".
So much for that oppossition!

Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-12 8:53 PM



Another populist show on Fox that almost no one watches, I think has good commentary on the midterm election.


The Next Revolution, 11-11-2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOFT8e66hmU



And on Maxine Waters' corrupt history. I can't believe this woman, who almost singlehandedly stoked the L.A. riots after the Rodney King verdict, is still permitted to stay in politics and move up the ranks. In a party of race-baiting demagogues, sshe is the absolute worst of them.
Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-13 3:44 AM
 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
Do some reading and the lag is in mail in ballots and provisional ballots. I'm guessing it's not going to change the results in Florida but we'll see where the vote totals are after the counting is done in razor thin election. Love seeing Trump lose his shit vs the initial sad spin the fat piece of shit always spews.


If the votes were following a legitimate legal "path of custody" I'd believe that. But witnesses who attemtped to videotape it saw a truck appear in the dead of night with no legal escort from the Sheriff's office to assure the votes were not tampered with. and thugs told those videotaping they were violating security by videotaping it. It appeared to be a rental truck and not a legitimate state election vehicle (i.e., Democrat vote tampering, delivering fraudulent votes to be counted in the thousands).

Add to that the multiple rigged previous elections in the Broward and Palm Beach country supervisor of elections office. Or at best, highly questionable and muddied by incompetence. But I lean toward rigged, since the "incompetence" always favors the Democrat side.

Add to that the lawyer representing the Democrats is the same lawyer who helped Al Franken cheat to win in Minnesota. Where Coleman had beaten Franken by several hundred votes, and Dems just whipped votes out of thin air to hand the election to Franken.




I'll pass on all the partisan accusations and stick to following the evidence and the law. Our pile of crap President is calling for the legal process to end in Florida and just declare the republicans winners. The state law clearly calls for a machine recount when the margins are this close. They than go to hand counts iat a certain margin. That is the law.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-13 10:07 AM

As Hannity pointed out, the supervisor of elections in Broward County, Brenda Snipes, has irreversibly corrupted the ballots, mixing legitimate and corrupted votes.
And there iss a consistent pattern of this kind of corruption in Broward in virtualy every election since 2002.

Governor Desantis and Senator Rick Scott were the clear winners 6 days ago on election day. Then 100,000 votes just magically appeared out of nowhere, with no legal chain of custody (i.e., fake manufactured ballots to corrupt the election in favor of the Democrats) were poured in to change the result.

Rep. Rick Gaetz was outside the Broward elections office when a truck pulled up unloading boxes of ballots. Armed thugs prevented him from even filming the unloading of ballots. He is a U.S. Representative! They didn't want it filmed because it was not legitimate. Hannity tonight showed the footage taken of the thugs guarding the truck before Gaetz and his associates were forced to leave.
If what the armed thugs were doing was legitimate, they wouldn't fear footage that could incriminate them.


Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-14 6:37 AM
I don't care what Hannity makes up. He has no credibility. The GOP wind machine making accusations so far hasn't translated to criminal charges that I know of. That's how good your evidence is, lol
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-14 4:57 PM
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
I don't care what Hannity makes up. He has no credibility. The GOP wind machine making accusations so far hasn't translated to criminal charges that I know of. That's how good your evidence is, lol


You're ridiculous, M E M. Hannity is a commentator, but he has journalists and legal professionals on his show that cite the facts. Hannity doesn't "make up" stuff, he comments on the facts. And ofen exposes where the liberal media DID make up the facts. I was watching CNN's 12 noon show yesterday, and while Fox was talking about the unresolved election, CNN was selectively ignoring it, and obsessing endlessly in unconfirmed rumors about John Kelly, Kirstjen Nielssen and Wilbur Ross allegedly leaving. Which in Kelly's case they've been obsessing over for 2 years. Where are the "facts" in that reporting. I'm increasingly disgusted with CNN and MSNBC because so much of what they "report" is just opinion bashing Trump, or unconfirmed rumors likewise discussed to make Trump look bad, based on absolutely no facts.

When I watch Hannity or any other Fox program, I see actual facts and statistics, and even hear liberal counter-perspective, that 10 or 20% of the time I agree with. I miss Alan Colmes and Kirsten Powers. Other liberals I respect on Fox are pulitzer-winning former New York Times writer Judith Miller, and Marie Harf.

Another story the liberal media is completely ignoring or at best distorting is the "caravans" of illegals headed for our border up through Mexico, many of whom are criminals and gang members, who have violently broken down gates and beaten up Mexican police who gotin their way, and 60 to 80% of the girls in these groups are sexually abused. This is an army of invaders, marching under foreign flags toward our border, but CNN and the other liberal media act like anyone is just "Mean" or "racist" for not wanting to let these people in, and selectively don't cover the crimes of these people in their home countries, or more committed on their way here.

You tell me, between Fox and CNN, which is the "made up" news?
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-14 5:06 PM


Man, it just doesn't end:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Commissioner_of_Agriculture_election,_2018

Hidden from coverage by the larger news of Rick Scott and Ron Destantis being cheated by the Supervissor of Elections, this story has largely been hidden from even Florida residents. Republican candidate for Agriculture Commissioner Matt Caldwell won on election night 8 days ago and went to sleep. When he woke up, the elections commissioner had "found" 77,000 votes and decclared his Democrat opponent the winner.

He is legally challenging this, saying that at most there could have only been 40,000 possible votes.

Isn't it interesting how every time votes magically appear after the election, they always favor the Democrat, and turn the tide to make the Democrat win. Just the wildest of coincidences. Every single time.

I'M hearing increasing concern that Democrats are perfecting their deception tactics to manipulate an even larger orchestrated ballot-stuffing to turn elections in 2020.



Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-14 5:19 PM

More "made up" news for you, M E M: Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC said that it's ridiculous to say Broward supervisor of elections is a Democrat operative, that she was appointed by Jeb Bush and is actually a Republican.
In truth Brenda Snipes is a Democrat, a former teacher (NEA) and administrator in black inner-city Broward schools. And after being appointed by Jeb Bush in 2003 to fill a supervisor of elections vacancy, she was repeatedly re-elected, running as a Democrat.

If Andrea Mitchell had done 5 minutes of homework, she would have known that. But then, for Democrats and the liberal media, facts don't matter, it's all about narrative. Whatever lying narrative will allow them to win.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-14 5:40 PM



WHO IS BROWARD COUNTY ELECTIONS SUPERVISOR BRENDA SNIPES (Washington Examiner)


 Quote:
The Broward County election official's career has been controversial from the outset - much like the office itself, whose previous occupant was escorted out of her office and removed from her job in 2003, three years after the notorious 2000 presidential election recount that took 37 days to be resolved by the U.S. supreme court.

Miriam Oliphant, the first black person to be elected to the post, served from January 2001 to November 2003, when [Florida governor Jeb]Bush suspended her for "grave neglect, mismanagement and incompetence" during the 2002 Democratic gubernatorial primary. She threatened to sue Bush but never did.

In 2018 alone, Snipes, originally from Talladega, Alabama, has had quite a year. A judge ruled in May that she violated state and federal laws by destroying ballots from a 2016 congressional race 10 months earlier than federal elections law requires.

The elections office was required to maintain all ballots in federal elections for 22 months, but Snipes ordered the destruction of those ballots after only 12 months. She claimed negligence, calling it a "mistake," and blamed it on her staff, who she said "have the responsibility of giving me information that's correct." In August, the office was admonished for illegally opening mail-in ballots, which Republicans are claiming as evidence of bias.

Those aren't the only instances of mishaps under Snipes' leadership. There have been consistent problems with long lines, missing ballot referendums, and voter counts since Snipes took the helm in 2003.

Under her watch, a medical marijuana referendum was left off a small number of ballots mailed out to voters, 1,000 uncounted ballots were discovered a week after the election in 2012, and roughly 58,000 mail-in ballots were not delivered to voters in 2004. In the 2016 primary, her office posted election results 30 minutes before polls closed.

Snipes currently faces a lawsuit from Florida Gov. Rick Scott that claims she violated public records laws by not providing the public regular updates about the voting tallies as the recounts continue. Florida state law requires that her office must provide regular tally updates every 45 minutes. Snipes has failed to give those regular updates, arguing that she is doing all she can to make sure that all votes are counted.

It looks like Snipes' days in office could well be numbered: she faces potential suspension or removal from office at the hands of [departing Florida governor] Scott or [Florida governor-elect] Ron DeSantis, the Republican candidate who remains favorite to become governor.

The incoming Florida state Senate President Bill Galvano has already said that if Snipes is suspended, he will have the body investigate and prepare to remove Snipes from office.

Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-14 7:07 PM

More details about Brenda Snipes history of ccorruption/incompetence:

https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/politi...ns/67-612946611




I got a kick for a while out of the fact that our Agriculture Commissioner from 2001-2011 was Charles Bronson.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_H._Bronson
Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-15 6:05 AM
 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
I don't care what Hannity makes up. He has no credibility. The GOP wind machine making accusations so far hasn't translated to criminal charges that I know of. That's how good your evidence is, lol


You're ridiculous, M E M. Hannity is a commentator, but he has journalists and legal professionals on his show that cite the facts. Hannity doesn't "make up" stuff, he comments on the facts. And ofen exposes where the liberal media DID make up the facts. I was watching CNN's 12 noon show yesterday, and while Fox was talking about the unresolved election, CNN was selectively ignoring it, and obsessing endlessly in unconfirmed rumors about John Kelly, Kirstjen Nielssen and Wilbur Ross allegedly leaving. Which in Kelly's case they've been obsessing over for 2 years. Where are the "facts" in that reporting. I'm increasingly disgusted with CNN and MSNBC because so much of what they "report" is just opinion bashing Trump, or unconfirmed rumors likewise discussed to make Trump look bad, based on absolutely no facts.

When I watch Hannity or any other Fox program, I see actual facts and statistics, and even hear liberal counter-perspective, that 10 or 20% of the time I agree with. I miss Alan Colmes and Kirsten Powers. Other liberals I respect on Fox are pulitzer-winning former New York Times writer Judith Miller, and Marie Harf.

Another story the liberal media is completely ignoring or at best distorting is the "caravans" of illegals headed for our border up through Mexico, many of whom are criminals and gang members, who have violently broken down gates and beaten up Mexican police who gotin their way, and 60 to 80% of the girls in these groups are sexually abused. This is an army of invaders, marching under foreign flags toward our border, but CNN and the other liberal media act like anyone is just "Mean" or "racist" for not wanting to let these people in, and selectively don't cover the crimes of these people in their home countries, or more committed on their way here.

You tell me, between Fox and CNN, which is the "made up" news?




I understand why you like Hannity but he lost credibility a long time ago. When Trump met Putin for example, Hannity spun it like the good old propagandist that he is. And you posted about the great commentary. The thing is our President in front of the world chose Putin's word over our intelligence agencies. Hannity was trying to spin it as a really great meeting but it wasn't flying for enough republicans. Trump the next day claimed he used a wrong word. Hannity is for the crowd that "knows" the other side is evil. Life is to short for garbage like that imho.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-15 9:14 PM


You're such a partisan liar, M E M.
Trump at the time made an inartful choice of words, but ultimately said Putin sounded sincere in his denials. Trump didn't say he believed Putin over his own intelligence, as you and the liberal 92% anti-Trump media projected way beyond what Trump actually said.

As I pointed out, George W. Bush said similar things, such as he looked into Putin's eyes and saw someone he could trust and deal with.
And in the case of lying cultural marxist America-destroying Obama, in a videotaped conference with Medvedev when Obama thought no one was listening, said "This is my last election, I can be much more flexible after the election."
MEDEVEV [Eagerly!]: "I will transmit this information to Vladimir!"

There is nothing Trump said that comes ANYWHERE NEAR that level of deceit, treason and Putin-hugging than that.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-15 9:26 PM





 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy
It makes me laugh that the "Surrender America" party of the Democrats can accuse Trump or anyone else of "collusion" or treason.

Since at least the Pentagon Papers, since the V V A W era of John Kerry throwing his medals over the fence and accusing U.S. soldiers of atrocities and war crimes, since Michael Moore and others calling the beheaders of the Iraqi resistance (led by imported Al Qaida leadership) "freedom fighters", since Senator Dick Durbin (D-MI) comparing U.S. soldiers in Iraq to Nazi storm troopers, since House Democrats in the years of George W. Bush trying to de-fund U.S. troops in Iraq, to force them to withdraw from Iraq.... THESE are the Democrats accusing Donald Trump and his administration of "collusion" or treason?!? Really?

"Collusion"? "Back channel negotiations" ?

That's not even getting into Obama telling Medvedev on a live mike that he "can be much more flexible after the election" (i.e., after he has deceived the American voters regarding his true anti-American goals and treasonous policy).
MEDVEDEV: "I will transmit this information to Vladimir." Well done, Comrade Obama.

And without getting into Obama's utterly flaccid response to Russia's aggression in Crimea, Russia's ongoing invasion of eastern Ukraine, or Russia's aggression and support of genocide in Syria, including their firing on U.S. allies in there like the Kurds.

Or Obama's treasonous back-channel negotiations with Iran, that will enable Iran to get nuclear weapons within 10 years, and ICBM missiles to carry them as well.
That never should have been negotiated, and when the infuriating Iran deal was announced, and THE EXACT SAME DAY was met by chants by a large crowd of "Death to America" with the Ayatollah at the podium, responding "Yes, death to America. Of course." Obama should have shredded that agreement the same day. Instead Obama gave them a generous reward for terrorism, while providing the weapons of destruction to kill us to a government with a ravenous bloodlust to use those weapons on us.

All in addition to the aforementioned 4 different DOCUMENTED and prosecutable kinds of treason that Hillary Clinton and her staff have engaged in, much of it involving Russia.

It is infuriating that the Democrats (with full assistance of the liberal media) can bombard Trump's administration day after day with wild speculation based on absolutely no evidence, and yet simultaneously ignore the Himalayan mountains of treason on the Democrat side, without the slightest shame or integrity.
Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-16 4:39 AM
 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy


You're such a partisan liar, M E M.
Trump at the time made an inartful choice of words, but ultimately said Putin sounded sincere in his denials. Trump didn't say he believed Putin over his own intelligence, as you and the liberal 92% anti-Trump media projected way beyond what Trump actually said.

....



The exact quote,
"My people came to me, Dan Coats came to me and some others, they said they think it's Russia. I have President Putin; he just said it's not Russia. I will say this: I don't see any reason why it would be."

That wasn't the only disturbing thing he said either but ithis was the most disturbing. Afterwards he went on Hannity and they both thought he did a wonderful job. Later on when Trump started taking heavy criticism from his own party he alleged that he meant to use a different word. I don't really believe that given the context of what else he said next to Putin but my point was Hannity was being a cheerleader prior to Trump's claim that it was a gaffe. That is just a more recent example why I don't have time for Hannity. It's fine if you like what he says but I don't have time for those types from either side.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-16 8:57 AM

It's still tea-leaf-reading, M E M.
Trump said that Putin strongly denied that Russia was responsible, not that he believed him, not that he believed Putin over his own intelligence agencies.

And Obama's remarks to Medvedev that "This is my last election, I can be much more flexible after the election" is much more clearly treasonous, and deceitful to the American people. Again an example of the Democrat way: say anything to voters to get elected, and then once you've fooled them, pursue a secret and opposite agenda once elected.

Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-17 7:59 PM
We know who Putin preferred WB.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-18 12:56 AM



Because Hillary attacked him and posed a greater chance of war with Russia.

I think Putin is regretting now that Trump was elected, because Trump is pushing back much harder at Russia (and China, and North Korea, and Iran, and Al Qaida, and ISIS) than Hillary EVER would.
Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-18 7:35 AM
Of course you think that. You also thought that meeting with Putin went well.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-18 7:31 PM



I didn't think the meeting went perfectly, it could have gone better. But I think Trump was more successful than the media portrayed it. On that trip, Trump got European allies to pay their fair share of NATO, and exposed Gerhard Schroeder as a lobbyist for Russian oil and gas, enriching himself while treasonously undermining Germany's national security, making his country dependent on Russian oil.

The liberal media selectively ignored this and portrayed Trump as a buffoon.
Just as Trump's entire presidency has been far more successful than liberal media propaganda portrays. There is absolutely no doubt the media are aligned against Trump, just as they were against W. Bush.
Just as they were against Mitt Romney, John McCain, Bob Dole, Dan Quayle, Bush Sr Gerald Ford and Richard Nixon, all before they did aything wrong.
Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-18 7:50 PM
So my point in bringing it up was just to cite an example of why Hannity isn't worth my time. The "media" didn't portray Trump as a buffoon, that was there for everyone to see. Hannity was trying to spin it as something that went really well. The reality is there were enough conservatives who put country before party that were not willing to go with the partisan spin that the meeting went wonderfully and the media was conspiring to once again make Trump look bad. Even if you want to believe Trump misspoke, Hannity was giving Trump an A+ before he came out later saying he meant to say something completely the opposite of what he said.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-18 9:34 PM

There are plenty of buffonish gaffes by Obama, Hillary, Bill Clinton, Biden and other Democrats that the media selectively omits coverage of. The media exaggerates Trump's gaffes, and buries and hides his achievements.

Even in the example of Trump in Germany and with Putin that you cite as an example of Trump's being "exposed as a buffoon" I pointed out that the media merely portrayed it that way, as if one clumsy sentence was the sum total of what occurred there. I corrected the record, that Trump accomplished a great deal that the liberal Newspeak media will never give him credit for.

Hannity and Rush Limbaugh are actually equal time, in their montages of Demcorat gaffes that you would never see on CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS or PBS. Many times I've posted articles here of things that were reported in British media that were not reported in the U.S. [liberal] media. Although BBC, The Guardian, and so forth are likewise liberal media. Not Democrat, perhaps, but certainly anti-American, particularly on the Iraq war and other U.S. military issues.

Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-18 10:59 PM
Hannity was fine with what Trump said before he claimed he made a gaffe though. You can bitch all you want that the media isn't serving as a propaganda arm for Trump but at least they have some journalistic codes of behavior. I watch Wallace's show on Fox for example and while it's slanted for Trump even they have their standards. I missed today's show but it sounds like Wallace took a firm stance with the President and his whole the media is the enemy of the people garbage. Watching him gush over Putin and hearing Hannity call it wonderful, solid pass for me WB.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-20 2:30 AM


The liberal media (at least 80% of the media, and measured as high as 92% anti-Trump in a recent Harvard study) have been caught almost weekly purposely getting the story wrong and having to announce retractions, and even fire producers and reporters for their bias, in their eagerness to slander Trump under the guise of objective "news".

I think Mike Wallace on Sunday hit Trump with some pretty hard-hitting questions. I don't think you can honestly portray that as "Trump-biased". You can pull up the Fox News Sunday program for yesterday (11-18-2018) it was half the hour, and the panel's commentary wasn't what I'd call a Hallelujah/Amen chorus for Trump either.
And Trump's comments were overtures toward diplomacy with Putin, not "gushing" or saying he believes everything Putin says. No different from W. Bush saying he looked into his soul, or Obama/Hillary haanding the Russians a re-set button. At least in Trump's case he didn't give away the farm, such as giving away defense missiles protecting Poland and Czech Republic in secret deals with the Russians, without even telling the Czech and Polish governments he did this. Or Obama's failed "line in the sand" in Syria. Or Obama's bowing to the Saudi king. Or Obama's freeing the "board of directors" of Al Qaida in exchange for piece of shit Bo Bergdahl. Or giving the Iranians billions in cash so they can use it to sponsor terrorism, AND also a deal that would have allowed the Iranians to get nukes in 10 years, with the missiles to reach Europe and the U.S. Not to mention the invasion Crimea, and of Eastern Ukraine, the explosion of ISIS across Iraq's borders and 40 other nations, in the face of which Obama just let it haappen and gasve no pushback. Trump reverse these all in his first year!

Trump's nice-sounding words of diplomacy, promising hostile governments nothing. Vs. Obama's open treason, betraying our national security, and betraying ally nations. Neither Trump or Republicans like myself have nothing to apologize for. Your side on the other hand...


Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-20 2:43 AM

Back on point:

Andrew Gillum finally conceded a second time to Ron Desantis as Florida governor on Friday (while still implying the election was illegitimate/racist because he didn't win).

Stacey Abrams finally conceded to Brian Kemp as Georgia governor (while still implying the election was illegitimate/racist because she didn't win).

Bill Nelson finally conceded to Rick Scott as the new Florida Senator (after trying every dirty trick in the book, implying votes were not counted, and even trying to enter inadmissible votes by illegal immigrants in his attempt to win. )

In all cases, Democrats burn legitimacy and public trust in the system down on their way out, as a way to stoke their base. After themselves trying every dirty trick in the book to win these elections by fraudulent means and highly incendiary race demagoguery. Then they have the audacity to allege their Republican opposition are the ones who are deceitful and rigging the system!


Icing on the cake, Brenda Snipes resigned today as Broward County supervisor of elections, effective January 2nd. Abrams, Gillum, and Nelson need look no further than Snipes to see illegitimate manipulation of voter ballotss.. Which they all are perfectly okay with, because she was rigging it in favor of their team.
Another classic Democrat trait, use every vile deceit possible, then accuse your Republican opposition of being deceitful.


Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-20 5:39 AM
 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy


The liberal media (at least 80% of the media, and measured as high as 92% anti-Trump in a recent Harvard study) have been caught almost weekly purposely getting the story wrong and having to announce retractions, and even fire producers and reporters for their bias, in their eagerness to slander Trump under the guise of objective "news".

I think Mike Wallace on Sunday hit Trump with some pretty hard-hitting questions. I don't think you can honestly portray that as "Trump-biased". You can pull up the Fox News Sunday program for yesterday (11-18-2018) it was half the hour, and the panel's commentary wasn't what I'd call a Hallelujah/Amen chorus for Trump either.
And Trump's comments were overtures toward diplomacy with Putin, not "gushing" or saying he believes everything Putin says. No different from W. Bush saying he looked into his soul, or Obama/Hillary haanding the Russians a re-set button. At least in Trump's case he didn't give away the farm, such as giving away defense missiles protecting Poland and Czech Republic in secret deals with the Russians, without even telling the Czech and Polish governments he did this. Or Obama's failed "line in the sand" in Syria. Or Obama's bowing to the Saudi king. Or Obama's freeing the "board of directors" of Al Qaida in exchange for piece of shit Bo Bergdahl. Or giving the Iranians billions in cash so they can use it to sponsor terrorism, AND also a deal that would have allowed the Iranians to get nukes in 10 years, with the missiles to reach Europe and the U.S. Not to mention the invasion Crimea, and of Eastern Ukraine, the explosion of ISIS across Iraq's borders and 40 other nations, in the face of which Obama just let it haappen and gasve no pushback. Trump reverse these all in his first year!

Trump's nice-sounding words of diplomacy, promising hostile governments nothing. Vs. Obama's open treason, betraying our national security, and betraying ally nations. Neither Trump or Republicans like myself have nothing to apologize for. Your side on the other hand...




Don't worry WB, I wouldn't expect anything but absolute loyalty to Trump from you. Spin for a truly shitty President while spewing endless accusations for everybody else.. And yes I differentiate Mike Wallace's bias from Hannity's propaganda.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-29 7:03 AM


One last Republican victory.

The Mississippi runoff senate election last night again went against the liberal narrative of being a close race (despite CNN and other liberal media's best effort to smear Republican Cindy Hyde-Smith, attempting to racialize a non-racial remark.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_special_election_in_Mississippi,_2018

Against the liberal narrative, and of CNN and other liberal networks acting as an extension of the DNC press office, Senator Cindy Hyde-Smith won handily, roughly 54% to 46%.


And her bomb-throwing Democrat rival I'm especially pleased to see hurled into the dumpster of history, as he was another black demagogue (like Florida governor candidate Andrew Gillum, like Georgia governor candidate Stacy Abrams, like evil SOB, woman-beater and black muslim pal of Louis Farrakhan, Rep. Keith Ellison). With Barack Obama, he was elected in 2008, it was his non-threatening moderate image he was elected on, as a "post racial president" whose election would prove the nation had moved beyond racism and racial politics. Elected even by a majority of white voters for this reason.
High hopes destroyed when the Saul Alinsky-trained demagogue instead governed as a radical, and with frequent racially divisive (Alinsky tactics) rhetoric, that actually splintered and racially divided America rather than healing it.

I'm so glad that the worst of these demagogues who would gone on to be the next generation of Obama-type race baiters, were all defeated. I hope that mad-dogs like Kamala Harris, and Maxine Waters (who supplied a lot of the racial kerosine that stoked the Rodney King verdict L.A riots in 1992, testimony to how insane the voters in her district are) receive similar treatment in future elections. Unfortunately, the Democrats have plenty more leftist maniacs warming up for Nov 2020. The Bolshevik party they have become have not learned their lesson.


Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-29 3:18 PM
It's a pretty red state and the reporting I saw still kept the republican favored to win. She said some dumb things. That's not the media's fault.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-30 4:44 AM


That seems to be a recurring Democrat talking point when the Democrat loses, to say that the Republican won by a smaller margin. Which of course ignores the damage of exceptionally vicious Democrat lying propaganda, and the unprecedented additional millions Democrats have poured into these campaign races to attempt to unseat these Republicans, such as Beto O'Rourke's $100 million war chest (the most expensive in Senate campaign history!) to defeat Ted Cruz.
And Cruz still won.
In many cases, despite Republicans being outspent, being carpet-bombed with negative ads, despite corrupt elections supervisors, and despite race cards being whipped out of nowhere every whichway, the Republican still won!

Shades of Donald Trump in 2016.

I'm not even sure I can agree that Cindy Hyde-Smith said anything wrong. I forget the exact remark, but speakign of a supporter, she said something to the effect that "I'd even go with you to a hanging!" The inteneded meaning being, a hanging is a very undesireable event to go to, but I like you so much, I'd even go with you there. Any racial context has to be read into it. What Bill and Hillary Clinton said about "preserving our southern heritage", and Hillary's close association and praise for former KKK member Senator Robert Byrd. And Bill Clinton starting his career as the protege of a Democrat racist governor.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/245914-the-clintons-and-race-a-timeline


In light of all that not even getting any coverage from the liberal media, nit-picking and selective outrage about an anbiguous at best remark by Cindy Hyde-Smith seems rather vindictive and petty.

It reminds me of balck race-baiter Andrew Gillum straining to pull the race card on now-governor Ron Desantis (R-FL), where Ron Desantis simply said the economy in Florida has been going well for 10 years of pro-growth Republican rule under Jeb Bush and then Rick Scott, and that "I don't think we want to monkey around with that." Which Gillum portrayed as a veiled racist remark of Gillum being black and a monkey. I can't even beieve black voters would buy that reach, on a very common non-racial phrase. Likewise Cindy Hyde-Smith, it was an interpretation in both cases that neither Hyde-Smith or Desantis could in advance have ever imagined possible.




Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-30 4:57 AM


Also, debunking Stacey Abrams' race-baiting in the Georgia governor's race, it turns out that Georgia election turnout was 57% on Nov 2018, up 7% over the previous 50% in the previous election, and that black voter turnout was actually up 10% in the Nov 2018 election!

https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/20/brian-kemp-stacey-abrams-voter-suppression/
Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-30 5:55 AM
Do you really see Mississippi or Texas for that matter as something other than a red state? That would be like me trying to make California not blue. I do see some states becoming more competitive though for one or the other party.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-30 6:32 AM
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
Do you really see Mississippi or Texas for that matter as something other than a red state? That would be like me trying to make California not blue. I do see some states becoming more competitive though for one or the other party.


What's your point?
Trump seized several previously reliable-Democrat states.
Democrats have won (or lost at a higher ratio) traditionally Republican states. So what? It's a wash, and it cuts both ways.

Regardless, the Democrats are infuriatingly corrupt, and it's scary how people who vote Democrat can openly endorse that level of undeniable corruption:
  • IRS weaponization/Lois Lerner.
  • Weaponization of the DOJ and FBI against Trump, and to sabotage investigation of Bill and Hillary
  • blatant treason in the "Russia Dossier" for which the Hillary campaign paid $2 million, and got disinformation on Trump directly from Russian officials.
  • the Clinton Foundation's pay-to-play selling of State Department access in exchange for hundreds of millions in foreign donations to the Clinton Foundation.
  • rigging the DNC primary for Hillary Clinton, and against Bernie Sanders, for which Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and Donna Brazile were both forced to resign.
  • the Hillary Clinton campaign immediately hired Debbie Wasserma-Schultz after, and Wasserman-Schultz, despite being unquestionably guilty, and unethica, was immediately re-elected as a U.S. Representative for her Florida district.


Seriously, what does it take for you fucking morons to withdraw your support?!?
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-30 6:34 AM
And even worse, you corrupt people would still vote again for Hillary Clinton over Trump, despite everything that has been exposed in the last 2 years.

How corrupt are you?

That was rhetorical. You are shamelessly and very corrupt, obviously. The Bolshevik party.
Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-30 7:39 AM
 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
Do you really see Mississippi or Texas for that matter as something other than a red state? That would be like me trying to make California not blue. I do see some states becoming more competitive though for one or the other party.


What's your point?
Trump seized several previously reliable-Democrat states.
Democrats have won (or lost at a higher ratio) traditionally Republican states. So what? It's a wash, and it cuts both ways.
....



Well my point is that some states like California or Mississippi do more than lean one way. The GOP winning something in Mississippi really isn't a big triumph like a democrat winning in California. I'm also not paying much attention to your hysterical partisan rants WB, it's just not worth the time
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-11-30 10:10 AM


It is verifiably true, your side is incredibly corrupt. The names Bill and Hillary Clinton, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, Donna Brazile, Eric Holder, Loretta Lynch, the Clinton Foundation, James Comey, Rod Rosenstein, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page,are all synonymous with deceit and lawless abuse of power. The entire Mueller investigation (11 of the 16 lawyers being large Democrat donors and party loyalists), on and on, are incredibly corrupt. That is just a fact. And everyone knows that the only thing keeping them out of jail is their corrupt friends in high places.

If you were a sane person and not a liberal partisan, it would terrify you that these people weaponize the IRS to audit their enemies, and use FBI, DOJ and the FISA court to illegally obtain warrants to spy on and frame Trump officials, and shake them down with the threat of essentialy life sentences for crimes they didn't commit, destroying innocent people's lives just to get their political opposition by any lawless abuse of power they can deceitfully pull off.

And you endorse this lawlessness. Whatever deceit or criminal act allows them to gain power. The Bolshevik party.

Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-12-04 3:02 AM
Sore losers? Wisconsin GOP seeks to limit power
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-12-04 3:39 AM

In Wisconsin, we're talking about a Democrat attorney general who abused his power to stage a midnight raid on Scott Walker's campaign manager, then seized his campaign computer files and printed documents and handed them over to Walker's Democrat political opposition, to help the Dems win the election.



Then this evil SOB attorney general put a gag order on Walker's campaign manager, so that he couldn't even publicly discuss or protest this abuse of power.

Do the Democrats in Wisconssin need to have their power reigned in?
Oh, fuck yeah!


Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-12-04 7:17 AM
I don't think the people who voted in larger numbers for a change would agree. Hope they remember this in 2020 and clean out the rest.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-12-04 8:57 AM
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
I don't think the people who voted in larger numbers for a change would agree. Hope they remember this in 2020 and clean out the rest.


You mean the change they voted for when they expanded Trump's Senate majority from 51 senators to 53 senators? In sharp contrast to how most presidents lose seats?

Your notion that they voted "in larger numbers for change" doesn't gel with that.
Despite the Democrat Bolsheviks corruptly trying to rig elections nationwide, some of them successfully. For example in California, every single closely contested district magically found the votes to turn Democrat. Every single one. And attempted in Florida and Georgia.
Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-12-05 6:20 AM
More of the people in Wisconsin voted for democrats though so what does that have to do with the senate? What the GOP is doing in WI is undemocratic any way you want to try to spin it. The GOP lost but instead of trying to compete for votes it's changing the rules to insulate it from the will of the people.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-12-06 12:45 AM


Despite every attempt to dislodge Scott Walker, he survived several special elections and manipulations by union thugs, as well as a Democrat district attorney who staged a midnight raid on Walker's campaign manager's home, and seized computer and printed campaign strategy records, and then handed them over to Walker's Democrat opponent. And then put a gag order on the campaaign manager, threatening him with imprisonment if he spoke publicly about the midnight raid and record seizure!

So forgive me for thinking that if Walker lost, it was quite possibly not the will of the people.
Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-12-06 5:24 AM
First Wisconsin did it. Now Republicans in Michigan move to strip Democrats' power
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-12-06 10:11 AM


Aside from being a one-sided PR press release for the Democrats, what's your point? Republicans moved to implement policy to preserve checks and balances to Democrat control of Michigan government. Shocking.

Beneath the one-sided pro-Democrat headline, Republicans are using the power they have to act in the interest of their voters. Once you get past the one-sided headline, the article actually says that.

Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2018-12-08 7:11 AM
Looks like this election is going to end with some voter fraud committed by republicans down south possibly triggering a new election.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2020-11-01 12:40 AM
Originally Posted by Wonder Boy
[Linked Image from zerohedge.com]


Two years later, this one still sums it up perfectly.
Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2020-11-01 12:57 AM
If he was a lying piece of dishonorable shit he wouldn?t be so hated WB. And the GOP platform is hating democrats, republicans who don?t support Trump, scientists and doctors.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: The 2018 mid-term election - 2020-11-02 5:22 AM
Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
If he was a lying piece of dishonorable shit he wouldn't be so hated WB. And the GOP platform is hating democrats, republicans who don't support Trump, scientists and doctors.

He is only hated by rabid partisan Democrats.

The same way Democrats hated Reagan.
The same way Democrats hated Bush Sr.
The same way Democrats hated even moderate bipartisan milquetoast Republicans like George W. Bush, John McCain, and Mitt Romney. No matter how moderate and bipartisan any of these guys were, your side called them racist, out of touch, xenophobic, white supremacist, and --of course-- Hitler !

There is nothing particularly controversial or vile about Trump, other than the fact that he dared to run as a Republican, and that he has been exceptionally effective and accomplished in his first four years as president.

Lou Dobbs frequently calls the Democrats "the party of hate."
Your party's consistent tactics, and your own personal choice of words regarding the president, confirm that perfectly.

It's not Donald Trump that is the problem. It's your own vicious Bolshevik party. And it is hurting the nation.
Even as Trump attempts to unify and heal the nation. Crowds at rallies all over the country, in the thousands, often tens of thoussands, are chanting at Trump: WE-LOVE-YOU ! WE-LOVE YOU ! Even in the case of Reagan, I've never seen that level of enthusiasm and loyaly to a candidate.

Trump has brought back manufacturing jobs and factories from overseas. What Obama said was impossible without "a magic wand".
Trump has overseen the highest wage increases in over 40 years.
Trump skillfully re-negotiated trade agreements in the U.S. favor, with Canada, Mexico, South Korea, Japan, China, Europe, Central America and South America.
Trump rebuilt our military.
Gave large raises for our soldiers. Aggressive reforms of the Veterans' Administration, to care for veterans.
Up till the pandemic, the lowest unemployment in 50 years.
Since the pandemic began, Trump has overseen the lowest ratio of Covid-19 deaths of any nation, and the fastest economic recovery of any nation in the world. And as a direct result, investment is moving to the U.S. as a relative economic safe haven, as Europe, Australia, New Zealand and other nations (against the proven science at this point) re-enter crushing lockdowns.

Trump has fast-tracked and organized mass production of Personal Protection Equipment (PPE) , and ventilator machines, way beyond what any other president could have achieved. To the point that we are giving part of our surplus to other nations, to further save lives. Trump gave these supplies demanded to Governor Andrew Cuomo of New York, that Cuomo squandered, and Cuomo caused the highest ratio of Covid-19 deaths of ANYWHERE ON THE PLANET. As did the Democrat governors of New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, Michigan, Oregon and California. And then incredibly, they rail on Trump for the unnecessary deaths that THEY caused, and say Trump "could have saved lives". The incredible hypocrisy! If not for these Democrat governors, the U.S. death rate would be far lower, by far the lowest of any nation on earth.

And Trump has fast-tracked a vaccine, due out in weeks, that would have taken two years or more under any other president. And Trump in even greater forethought, has already pre-arranged organization of immediate mass production and distribution of the vaccine as soon as it''s approved, expected to reach 300 million Americans by March 2021.

Trump has secured the border as no other president has. Tom Homan, the former head of ICE, has said repeatedly that he has served under 6 presidents, and this is the first president who has fully backed ICE and is fully committed to actually secure the border. "RACIST !", say the Democrats. Yeah, they'd protect us better. rolleyes

Trump is, quite simply, the most effective president in at least 50 years. Lou Dobbs frequently says the most effective since FDR.
Possibly, President Trump is the most loved and effective president since Teddy Roosevelt.
If re-elected, I look forward to Trump vastly lowering the cost of pharmaceutical drugs, reforming healthcare and making it more truly affordable, further crushing "Critical race theory" indoctrination in government agencies, schools and universities, further reforming education, and eliminating sanctuary cities.



Pretty damn good for a president Democrats and you personally want to slander as a "piece of shit".

But, y'know, we're pretty used to that kind of slander and propaganda now. It's the same excrement your side has been slinging for at least 40 years.

I love your attempted line about "the GOP platform is hating democrats". For weeks, I've seen that at rallies, 20 to 30% of the crowds at Trump rallies ARE DEMOCRATS.
It is your side that constantly threatens and physically attacks Trump supporters, HAS KILLED Trump supporters.
None of that from the Republicans side. Your side either fires or tries to fire people who simply post on Facebook or Twitter that they support Trump or attended a Trump rally. Your side even attacks children in MAGA hats. And I've linked many articles and Youtube videos to give examples of this, a tiny sampling of the countless attacks that have occurred. An average of two a day.
Democrats: The party of hate. Democrats even threatened and intimidated the Girl Scouts!

Whereas Trump is trying to bring the nation together, with shared opportunity for everyone, and in particular has made great overtures to right past wrongs for black America.
Wow. what a hater.
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