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Posted By: Wonder Boy Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-02-08 10:40 AM


A favorable news piece on her life up to entering politics:

https://heavy.com/news/2018/06/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-family-boyfriend/

Interesting to see a favorable POV of her, and why people see her positively as a native of the Bronx, and who certainly sacrificed to help out her family.


They kind of leave out the part about her being a marxist and a member of the Democrat Socialists of America.



Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-02-08 10:51 AM


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jul/18/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-slammed-by-democrats-her-/

A little counter-perspective from the Washington Times. Her critics include Joseph Lieberman, Chris Coons, and local for me, Alcee Hastings. All express concerns about her socialist lurch to the far-Left that alienates Democrat moderates, and it goes without saying, the rest of America.

I think she gets a lot of media attention just because she's young and pretty. Despite that she's an airhead who proposes dangerous policy and doesn't understand the issues. But over time, she will increasingly surround herself with competent advisors, who will help her to increasingly appear more competent and moderate than she truly is.



Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-03-07 10:26 PM

Ocasio-Cortez denies dark-money allegations in FEC complaint: ‘There is no violation’

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The FEC complaint asserts that Chakrabarti [Ocasio-Cortez's campaign manager] established two PACs, the Brand New Congress PAC and Justice Democrats PAC, and then systematically transferred more than $885,000 in contributions received by those PACs to the Brand New Campaign LLC and the Brand New Congress LLC -- companies that, unlike PACs, are exempt from reporting all of their significant expenditures. The PACs claimed the payments were for "strategic consulting."

Although large financial transfers from PACs to LLCs are not necessarily improper, the complaint argues that the goal of the "extensive" scheme was seemingly to illegally dodge detailed legal reporting requirements of the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971, which are designed to track campaign expenditures.

Critics said the arrangement appears unusual and should be probed.

"It sounds to a lot of people like that’s a way to skirt the campaign finance laws in this country," former Utah GOP Rep. Jason Chaffetz said on Fox News' "America's Newsroom." "And the FEC and the other regulators need to get in there and find out where was this money going – was it going to people’s pockets? Was it legitimate or not?”



In a nutshell, Ocasio-Cortez took funds (about $885,000) from one PAC she controlled, and put the funds in another LLC she owns. Both of which she has total control of. Apparently the only reason to move the funds is because she can use the funds in the new account without as much disclosure of how she spends it.

In many ways similar to how Hillary illegally set up a private e-mail server, rather than the far more secure SteteDepartment.gove website, so that she could avoid having her e-mail communications (i.e., Hillary's secret selling of State Department access to foreign governments, in exchange for hundreds of millions of dollars to the Clinton Foundation) subject to disclosure in state records.

Ocasio-Cortes at the least has a lot of days in court ahead of her, and potentially some jail time. It's amazing how Democrats always posture about open government and accountability, and then turn out to be the most evasive of open government for themselves, with the most to hide. And when you're a constitutional republic-wrecking Bolshevik posing as a champion of freedom, you have a lot to hide. Some animals are more equal than others.

Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-03-07 11:10 PM



Complaint alleging massive campaign finance violations prompts a denial from Ocasio-Cortez (Washington Examiner)


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by Becket Adams, 3-5-2019


Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., has some explaining to do, and I don't think a simple denial will cut it.


The freshman congresswoman’s top aide, Saikat Chakrabarti, reportedly funneled more than $1 million through political action committees he founded into two private companies he owns, according to a new investigative report by the Washington Examiner’s Alana Goodman.

“Chakrabarti's companies appear to have been set up for the sole purpose of obscuring how the political donations were used,” Goodman reports, citing a complaint filed with the Federal Election Commission by the watchdog group the National Legal and Policy Center. The “arrangement skirted reporting requirements and may have violated the $5,000 limit on contributions from federal PACs to candidates.”

“PACs are required to disclose how and when funds are spent, including for expenditures such as advertisements, fundraising emails, donations to candidates, and payments for events and to vendors,” Goodman wrote. “The private companies to which Chakrabarti transferred the money from the PACs are not subject to these requirements.”

Ocasio-Cortez responded to the report Tuesday by asserting simply that “ there is no violation.” For a lawmaker whose path to Congress was paved with a promise to elevate the ethics of Washington, D.C., she’s going to have to do better than that to explain how it’s kosher for her campaign-manager-turned-chief-of-staff to shuffle money through his PACs into his own private companies, whence it allegedly benefited other campaigns.

The Campaign Legal Center’s director, Adav Noti, himself a former FEC lawyer, told the Examiner that Chakrabarti's arrangement is definitely unusual. He also suggested that it might have been done with an eye toward obscuring how the money changes hands.

"None of that makes any sense," said Noti. "I can't even begin to disentangle that. They're either confused, or they're trying to conceal something."

"It does seem like there's something amiss. I can only think of really two likely possibilities for this sort of pattern of disbursements," he added. "One is the scam PAC possibility — they're really just paying themselves, and they’re concealing it by using the LLC. The other is that there’s actually another recipient, that the money is going to the LLC and then being disbursed in some other way that they want to conceal."

The thing that gets me is that Ocasio-Cortez was sworn into office only 61 days ago. Yet, her office already looks like a black hole of ethically dubious behavior. Remember: This FEC complaint isn’t even the first shoe to drop. During the 2018 election, her campaign made several payments to Brand New Congress LLC for “strategic consulting,” and then Brand New Congress PAC made payouts to her boyfriend, Riley Roberts, who was billed as a “marketing consultant,” according to Federal Election Commission filings compiled by GOP operative Luke Thompson.

As if that weren’t already strange enough, both the LLC and the PAC were co-founded by Chakrabarti. These are the same organizations that he reportedly used to funnel cash into his private companies. Then, there's the questionable issue of the congresswoman giving her boyfriend a dot-gov email address. These addresses are reserved only for House staff, though they are given out on occasion to the spouses of elected members of Congress. Roberts is neither.

For a candidate who came to Washington on the promise of transparency and a high standard of ethical behavior, Ocasio-Cortez has wasted no time falling far from that ideal.



From the perspective of a former FEC lawyer who now works for the political watchdog group who exposed the irregularities of Ocasio-Cortez's campaign finances, this editorial clarifies the irregularities of the case in question.



Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-03-11 9:30 PM


The Brains Behind Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez [AOC]




Holy shit....



Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-03-16 12:00 AM


Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez (Mr Reagan again)




Man, I love this guy!
With humor, he intelligently deconstructs Ocasio-Cortez's insane rhetoric. Many Republican pundits say they welcome her comments, because they are so destructive within the Democrat party.
And alienate and drive away any moderate support for the Democrats.



Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-06-20 12:19 AM


The latest is Ocasio-Cortez comparing Border Patrol detention areas to Nazi concentration camps.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc-con...nternment-in-us


Gee, why do I hate Democrats?

1) These illegals (i.e. people who entered out country ILLEGALLY) are often treated better than U.S. citizens.

2) These illegals were not taken in the middle of the night by storm troopers against their will. They chose to enter this country, illegally, and are remarkably well provided for under the circumstances.

3) They are held for a maximum of about 21 days before being released into the United States, where they are free to kill, rob, rape and engage in other crimes with no vetting. And to spread diseases that have become epidemic across the United States, after previously being eradicated for decades.


It's all about hating America, and destroying what we've been for over 200 years, to radically transform us into something else: A non-white marxist utopia that crushes U.S. sovereignty and welcomes globalism.

Posted By: Lothar of The Hill People Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-06-20 11:36 AM
Goddamn Democrats!
Posted By: the G-man Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-06-20 2:48 PM

Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-06-21 6:01 AM



She's a hired actress, with two political strategists writing all her material, and she still sounds like an airhead.
Just imagine how vapid she would sound without them scripting her.

G-man, that cartoon you posted makes me imagine Lloyd Bentsen on a debate stage with her saying "I knew Jack Kennedy, Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. And believe me Alexandra O-C, you're no Jack Kennedy." The hammer and sicle in her acronym was a nice touch.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-07-03 10:34 PM


Newt Gingrich, Ocasio-Cortez's toilet drinking allegations "viciously dishonest"



Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-07-14 11:27 PM


God, I love it!


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-t...ady-tweet-storm


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TRUMP TARGETS FOUR DEMOCRAT HOUSE FRESHMAN AND PELOSI IN SUNDAY TWEET STORM


President Trump squared off with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and four of her progressive freshman members on Twitter Sunday, and told them to go back to their countries of origin to fix the corruption plaguing those nations before they lecture the United States.

In the tweet, Trump referred to them as "progressive Democratic Congresswomen" whose home countries are collapsing from corruption and said they should return home to aid those who are suffering.

He also said their departure would please Nancy Pelosi and suggested she would even cover the cost of their travel.

Trump's tweets prompted a backlash from several members of Congress, including Pelosi and Michigan's Rep. Rashida Tlaib.


The Speaker of the House responded to Trump's tweet shortly thereafter and said the issue was not about policy but about race, claiming the president wants to "make America white again."
She also called Trump's comments xenophobic and asked for an end to all ICE raids, in favor of bipartisan immigration reform.


New York congresswoman, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez flipped the script on Trump in her Twitter reply and blamed him for the corruption and lawlessness at the southern border and accused him of purposely instilling fear while being driven by anger.


Meanwhile, Tlaib tweeted out a call for impeachment in response to Trump's comments and said he represents the real crisis, not the immigration issues on the southern border.


Ocasio-Cortez, who is Puerto Rican, was born in the Bronx, New York, and raised in suburban Westchester County. [ undisclosed in the article: Puerto Rico, while a U.S. territory, is an impoverisshed and politically corrupt state, as evidenced by indictments in the last week over government officvials stealing hurricane relief funds. --WB]

Pressley, the first African-American woman elected to represent Massachusetts, was born in Cincinnati. [ undisclosed in the article: while American, she is a cultural marxist liberal-progressive America-hater in the mold of Obama, from the poorest blackest inner city districts of Chicago, and later Boston, a "community organizer", and the neighborhoods she is from are corrupt Democrat-controlled third-world hellholes within the United States --WB]

Tlaib, who along with Omar became one of the first two Muslim women ever elected to Congress, was born in Detroit. [ undisclosed in the article: Tlaib's family are recent immigrants from Palestine, and Ilhan Omar, the most loathesome of the bunch, is from a family of recent immigrants from Somalia -WB].

Omar is the first Somali native elected to the House and despite being born in Somalia, she spent much of her childhood in a Kenyan refugee camp as a civil war tore her country apart. She is the only one of the four not to be born on U.S. soil.

Omar was the third Congresswoman to reply to the controversy and said Trump has been corrupted with ineptitude. She also said he's stoking hate through white nationalism and told his opponents to fight his hate with diversity.
The Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) also condemned Trump's comments and issued a statement through their National Executive Director Nihad Awad:

"Trump's latest racist tweets echo the bigoted shouts of 'go back where you came from' heard daily by American Muslim women and children, immigrants and members of other minority communities across our nation. It is sad to see the occupant of the Oval Office transition from empowering and encouraging racist taunts to actually using them himself," Awad said. "If Trump shouted the same thing at a Muslim woman wearing hijab in a Walmart, he might be arrested."

Omar has fundraised for CAIR, the influential civil rights group for Muslims. CAIR has been condemned by conservatives, who say the group unfairly labels its critics Islamophobic.

TLAIB DOUBLES DOWN ON AOC'S CONCENTRATION CAMP COMMENTS, CLAIMS BORDER AGENTS BELIEVES IT'S A 'BROKEN SYSTEM'

Pressley was the last of the four to respond and said Trump represents racism, while she and her congressional cohort represent "democracy." She also said they won't be going anywhere anytime soon.

Michigan Rep. Justin Amash, who said he is leaving the GOP due to Trump's policies and was the only Republican to call for his impeachment, also weighed in on the debate and called the president a disgusting racist.

Matt Wolking the deputy director of communications for Trump's 2020 reelection campaign, got in on the action as well and said the media was already mischaracterizing the president's comments.

"Anyone who says the president told members of Congress to go back to where they came from is lying," he wrote on Twitter. "He told them to “Then come back and show us how it is done.”

Last week Pelosi was caught in a public feud with her four progressive freshman members: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Tlaib, Ayanna Pressley, D-Mass., and Ilhan Omar, D-Minn. Ocasio-Cortez had been publicly acrimonious in her responses to Pelosi and accused the speaker of giving her busy work to keep her quiet and out of the way.

On Sunday, the Washington Post's Global opinions editor Karen Attiah blamed Pelosi for Trump's comments and said her harsh criticism of her own members gave the president an opening to attack.





Trump is often less than eloquent while making his point, while still functionally getting his point across.
But in this Twitter post he perfectly eviscerated these four freshman congresswomen, as members who hate America and relentlessly harp on how evil, unequal and racist America is. And that if they really hate it that much, they come from the most corrupt and brutal nations on earth (Rashida Tlaib from Palestine, Ilhan Omar from Somalia, Ocasio-Cortez from a dysfunctional Puerto Rico) and since they hate America so much, they should go back to the hellhole nations they came from and reform them. And that he's sure Nancy Pelosi would be more than glad to arrange the VISAs for them!

I'm paraphrasing only slightly, but that's the gist of it.

Trump's post, of course, raised a hissy-fit among the America-hating Democrat Left, pissing off all the right people. And certainly among Trump's political base (including me) never said truer words about these vile Leftist demagogues.

Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-07-14 11:35 PM


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/stat...%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

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Donald J. Trump@RealDonaldTrump

So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly......

5:27 AM - 14 Jul 2019


 Quote:
Donald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump

....and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....



 Quote:
Donald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump

....it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!




Weird how Fox News quoted word for word, every last bit of vitriol, in all the angry Democrat/Left responses to President Trump, but didn't quote what Trump initially said.

Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-07-15 1:08 AM
I think Trump is very good at choosing the right words that excite a chunk of his base. I'm all to familiar with racist pieces of shits telling non-white people that they can go back to their own country. Seen it in action but never thought I would hear a President say it.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-07-15 5:21 PM
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
I think Trump is very good at choosing the right words that excite a chunk of his base. I'm all to familiar with racist pieces of shits telling non-white people that they can go back to their own country. Seen it in action but never thought I would hear a President say it.



Tlaib, Ocasio-Cortez, and Ilhan Omar are non-white people whose families were admitted into this country as refugees, out of great generosity of the United States. People who once rescued, trash the country that rescued them. Pressley from what I've observed is just African-American, but still manifests a hostile separate identity and political animus toward white America.

Trump isn't lashing out at all people of color, Trump is only directing his comments at those who hate this country and incessantly label it as evil, unfair, racist, and misogynist. Trump is only saying of THOSE PARTICULAR America-hating Leftist immigrants (race unspecified), that if they don't like the U.S. 1) they should leave, and 2) they should look at the U.S. as certainly a better and far fairer and less corrupt place than the nations they came from.

And by the way, Nancy Pelosi's unimaginative incendiary remark that Trump "wants to make America white again":
U.S. immigration over at least the last 20 years admits an average of 1.1 million legal green-card immigrants per year, nearly equal to the total immigration annually of all the world's other nations combined.
Of that 1.1 million legal green-card immigrants annually, only 18% of immigrants to the U.S. are white.
HOW IS THAT "MAKING AMERICA WHITE AGAIN"?
It 's not. That is lying propaganda, and an incendiary smear of Trump.

In point of fact, in Trump's first year, the U.S. actually let in 1.3 million legal greencard immigrants.
And needless to say, over a million illegals each year, thanks to the nation-threatening obstruction of Democrats, to prevent securing our borders.
Tom Homan, the director of ICE till June 2018, and who has served 35 years on border security, working his way up from a frontline border guard, said that in his service under 6 presidents, Trump is the very first who is serious and committed to actually securing the border from illegal immigrants.

Democrats are lying demagogues, and their goals are anything but securing the border.

Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-07-16 1:51 AM
You can try to use bs rationalization WB but like I said I've seen the "go back to your own country " used by racists over the years. Telling your fellow countrymen to go back to their own countries isn't defensible. America is their country too and instead of civilly challenging different opinions our president went with a racist retort. That isn't loving your country either.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-07-16 2:14 AM
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
You can try to use bs rationalization WB but like I said I've seen the "go back to your own country " used by racists over the years. Telling your fellow countrymen to go back to their own countries isn't defensible. America is their country too and instead of civilly challenging different opinions our president went with a racist retort. That isn't loving your country either.


"Go back to your own country" is not necessarily racist. It's a statement of someone who doesn't assimilate, and in the case of these four women in the House, who despise America. If that is how they feel and their first loyalty is somewhere else, then by all means they should go to the place their loyalty is with, whether that is Palestine, Puerto Rico, Somalia, Russia, the U.K., France, Latin America, India, China, Pakistan, the Middle East or wherever.

There is no mention of skin color in that statement, it is simply a matter of those who value being here, and those who belong somewhere else. And many immigrants have historically and continue to contribute greatly to the United States. Those who love this country and contribute to its success as a nation. Dinesh D'Souza, for example. There is much that D'Souza says that would be considered jingoist and racist if a white person said the same thing, about the merits and superiority of European culture, and the net positive legacy of European colonialism.

Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-07-16 2:33 AM
I think it's pretty apparent who is actually hating half their country.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-07-16 4:27 AM
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
I think it's pretty apparent who is actually hating half their country.


Yeah. The Democrats.
They portray anyone who doesn't agree 100% with their point of view as racist, bigoted, homophobic, misogynist, etc.

Democrats are completely intolerant of any views that they disagree with. If a Republican/conservative hears views they disagree with, they politely disagree and present the facts for their own dissenting views.
Democrats increasingly want to shut down any speech they disagree with as "hate speech".
CNN won't even have people on their network anymore who disagree scientifically with global warming and can present the facts to support that view!

Democrats increasingly side with muslims in anti-Israel and Antisemitic views, even a principal (a high school in my own city just today, Spanish River High School in Boca Raton) pushing holocaust denial being taught in his school!
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/school...xhnu-story.html

My U.S. Representative Ted Deutch (D-FL, district 22), despite being Jewish himself and overtly pro-Israel, supports Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib and that crowd of Israel haters.

As I've pointed out repeatedly, Democrats have shouted down and threatened violence to prevent conservative speakers such as Ann Coulter, Karl Rove, Yiannopoulos, Condoleezza Rice and others. They won't even allow them to be graduation commencement speakers!

On top of that, the intolerant anger and violence of the Democrat/Left, literally hundreds of attacks.
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2018...ump-supporters/


There was an incident of Antifa violence in Spokane Washington yesterday, where one Antifa guy used an automatic rifle on police, and he had to be shot to death. Antifa lionizes him as a martyr and calls for more violent Antifa attacks.
CNN and the other liberal networks won't condemn Antifa's attack. Instead openly praise Antifa.
NOT ONE of the 25 Democrat presidential 2020 candidates will condemn the attack. Who is the party of hate?
https://www.foxnews.com/us/washington-man-killed-at-ice-detention-center-manifesto
The shooter's rhetoric as he shot up the ICE facility was pretty much what verbatim Rep. Ocasio-Cortez has said in recent weeks: that ICE agents are racist and like Nazis, that ICE detention of illegals is cruel and comparable to nazi concentration camps, etc.

(In point of fact, ICE agents due to deprivation of funds by a Democrat-controlled Congress have inadequate funds and supplies, and bring in food, clothing and toys for detained illegal children paid for out of their own salaries. Yes! Just like the Nazis! Democrats really do a disservice to these caring and selfless agents, extending kindness to illegals in detention NOT given by the Democrat leadership. )

The hate is all on the Democrat side. Republicans are willing to have a dialogue, the Democrats are not. And far beyond that, the Democrat/Left tries to intimidate into silence their Republican opposition. THAT, my friend, is hating half the country.

Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-07-16 5:48 AM
You are the one attacking a whole party, roughly half the country. Try rereading your own posts, I don't think I'm mistaken to see a lot of hate from you. Trump's "go back to your own countries " wasn't said out of love or an attempt to unite the country. Trump is doing exactly what you're accusing democrats of.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-07-16 9:11 PM


 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
You are the one attacking a whole party, roughly half the country. Try rereading your own posts, I don't think I'm mistaken to see a lot of hate from you. Trump's "go back to your own countries " wasn't said out of love or an attempt to unite the country. Trump is doing exactly what you're accusing democrats of.


You are trying to turn this around into a personal attack on me, to hide the true hate and radicalism, and violence, of your own party.

I am not voicing hate. I'm citing specific examples of the hate, intimidation and violence in the Democrat party.


You're desperately trying to evade that fact: Democrats are the ones who act with utter intolerance and hate toward views they don't agree with. And all too often, VIOLENCE.

Democrats attack Republican authors, public speakers, and current/former political leaders at booksignings, at public lectures, and at university appearances, and in many cases are so violent that events are cancelled or shut down. There is absolutely nothing I or any other Republican has said or done that even comes close to that level of "hate" in the other direction.



Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-07-17 5:21 PM


Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez topic:

 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man, 7-15-2019
You are the one attacking a whole party, roughly half the country. Try rereading your own posts, I don't think I'm mistaken to see a lot of hate from you. Trump's "go back to your own countries " wasn't said out of love or an attempt to unite the country. Trump is doing exactly what you're accusing democrats of.



Melania Trump topic (one of literally hundreds by M E M that I could cite as examples) :

 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
The 2nd trophy wife always has a rougher time, lol. I don't bear any bad will to her compared to the animosity some republicans have shown to Michelle and really stopped paying attention to Melania after her "I don't care" jacket. After letting that fat ugly orange turd crawl on her enough to produce a child I think she really didn't need to make a jacket statement. It's pretty apparent that she doesn't care.



Irony.

And unintentional comedy.


Your comments display a level of personal hatred I couldn't begin to compete with.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-07-19 10:02 PM


Cruz: Freshman Dems are radical and extreme with a troubling history from July 16, 2019 on Fox & Friends.



Senator Ted Cruz discusses the radicallism of Ocasio-Cortez, Tlaib, Pressley and Ilhan Omar.
I like the term of Senator John Kennedy (R-LA), who nicknamed them "the four horsewomen of the Apocalypse".

Cruz also comments on the monopoly of Google, that is far larger and more powerful than A T & T, and far larger than Standard Oil, when those vast empires were broken up.
I think Google, Youtube, Facebook, Instragram, Twitter and other liberal-dominated internet and social media giants are the only threat left to Trump's 2020 re-election. As they currently exist, they are attempting an Orwellian suppression of the conservative half of the two-party dialogue.



Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-07-20 3:51 PM
 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy


 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
You are the one attacking a whole party, roughly half the country. Try rereading your own posts, I don't think I'm mistaken to see a lot of hate from you. Trump's "go back to your own countries " wasn't said out of love or an attempt to unite the country. Trump is doing exactly what you're accusing democrats of.


You are trying to turn this around into a personal attack on me, to hide the true hate and radicalism, and violence, of your own party.

I am not voicing hate. I'm citing specific examples of the hate, intimidation and violence in the Democrat party.


You're desperately trying to evade that fact: Democrats are the ones who act with utter intolerance and hate toward views they don't agree with. And all too often, VIOLENCE.

Democrats attack Republican authors, public speakers, and current/former political leaders at booksignings, at public lectures, and at university appearances, and in many cases are so violent that events are cancelled or shut down. There is absolutely nothing I or any other Republican has said or done that even comes close to that level of "hate" in the other direction.





Oh that's a bunch of bs. That occurs on both sides and unlike the lying orange turd, Ocasio-Cortez has actually confronted somebody that called a republican a moron at one of her events. Trump on the other hand in his dishonest "go back to your own country" attacks pauses to let his supporters chant "send her back". He's told some really nasty lies in his attacks on the four, why is that acceptable to you? Michelle Obama has it right when she says it's not my America and it's not yours but it's our America. And what did I get wrong about you attacking a whole party? When you say broadly attack democrats or liberals you do realize that includes me btw.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-08-20 12:10 AM






Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-10-04 10:49 AM
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
You are the one attacking a whole party, roughly half the country. Try rereading your own posts, I don't think I'm mistaken to see a lot of hate from you. Trump's "go back to your own countries " wasn't said out of love or an attempt to unite the country. Trump is doing exactly what you're accusing democrats of.

 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy

You are trying to turn this around into a personal attack on me, to hide the true hate and radicalism, and violence, of your own party.
I am not voicing hate. I'm citing specific examples of the hate, intimidation and violence in the Democrat party.

You're desperately trying to evade that fact: Democrats are the ones who act with utter intolerance and hate toward views they don't agree with. And all too often, VIOLENCE.

Democrats attack Republican authors, public speakers, and current/former political leaders at booksignings, at public lectures, and at university appearances, and in many cases are so violent that events are cancelled or shut down. There is absolutely nothing I or any other Republican has said or done that even comes close to that level of "hate" in the other direction.

 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man

Oh that's a bunch of bs. That occurs on both sides and unlike the lying orange turd, Ocasio-Cortez has actually confronted somebody that called a republican a moron at one of her events. Trump on the other hand in his dishonest "go back to your own country" attacks pauses to let his supporters chant "send her back". He's told some really nasty lies in his attacks on the four, why is that acceptable to you? Michelle Obama has it right when she says it's not my America and it's not yours but it's our America. And what did I get wrong about you attacking a whole party? When you say broadly attack democrats or liberals you do realize that includes me btw.


Somehow I missed this when you posted it earlier. It's not "B.S.", I cited and sourced and quoted to back up everything I've said. Ther emay be a few conservatives who have engaged in similar attacks, but they are overwhelmingly Democrat attacks on Trump supporters and other Republicans like Karl Rove, Ann Coulter, Yiannopoulos, Condoleezza Rice, etc. You don't see Republicans shouting down or intimidating Democrats. You don't see (Breitbart link above) hundreds of attacks on Democrats for something so simple as a MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN hat or T-shirt, where to simply openly support Trump is an invitation to be attacked.

So "Republicans do it too" just doesn't accurately describe it. All the hate, all the vitriol, all the shout-downs, the politically motivated attacks, are overwhelmingly from the Democrat side. There is nothing from the Republican leadership equivalent to compare to:
1) Rep Maxine Waters' call to drive Trump supporters from any public restaurant, store or gas station, to (on video, above) "Get in their faces, step into them, create a crowd, and let them know they are not welcome." To basically intimidate anyone from wanting to servee in a Trump administration.
2) Hillary Clinton, asked about the violence she and other Democrats are stoking: "There will be peace when we regain power."
3) Cory Booker's comments, similarly calling for intolerance and uncivility.
4) Kamala Harris, also wishign for violence about Trump and what she'd like to do to him, only half jokingly.
5) Joseph Biden, multiple times saying how he'd like to give Trump a beat-down.
6) Ocasio-Cortez and the rest of her Bolshevik wing, essentially saying that Trump supporters, and even ICE, Border Patrol and other police engaged arresting illegal criminals and other criminals, are basically comparable to Nazis, and that you aren't polite to a Nazi, you punch them in the face, violently attack them, intimidate them from speaking publicly and otherwise de-platform them. That is the polar opposite of Constitutional free speech.

And there is nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING comparable, either from the Republican leadership, or from grassroots Republicans.

Your fellow Democrats are the party of hate, intolerance and Bolsshevik revolution, and there is nothing even slightly comparable on the Republican side. You can't accuse me of "hate" for simply pointing out the hate that is overwhelmingly on the Democrat side.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-10-04 11:03 AM


A few days ago, Tucker Carlson had a segment about Ocasio-Cortez and her ideological pals, indoctrinating kids based on nothing, that the "world will end in 12 years if we don't act radically to stop global warming". Carlson has had many segments to show interviewing meteorologists, scientists and other climate experts that there is absolutely no science to back that up that "12 years" number.

But in Carlson's more recent segment a few nights ago, he covered how terrified a lot of these indoctrinated kids are, how they really believe it, and many of them are doped up on anxiety drugs to deal with the stress these fears are causing them.

And just tonight at the end of his show, he showed this clip from an Ocasio-Cortez public appearance where a freaked out girl was saying: "It's not enough! We're not doing enough! Even if we kill all the Russians it's not enough to stop global warming! We only have 12 years! We need to start eating our babies!..."

Carlson/Hannity 10-3-2019, Thurdsay: "URGENT BREAKING NEWS!!!"


Whether she is pranking Ocasio-Cortez or is a sincere true believer in Ocasio-Cortez's golbal warming imminent armageddon drivel, she reflects the fears of the Ocasio-Cortez indoctrinated.


Trump already tweeted about it, and Ocasio-Cortez responded.


Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-10-05 6:14 AM
Apparently a proTrump group is taking credit for it WB. Pretty disgusting tactic imho
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-10-06 8:25 PM


 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
Apparently a proTrump group is taking credit for it WB. Pretty disgusting tactic imho



Because it exposes liberal insanity?

They didn't deceive, they quickly took credit for their publicity stunt.

It's interesting that Ocasio-Cortez, even when she thought this girl was a serious supporter, never outright said that "eating babies" was a crazy way to deal with the threat of global warming. Ocasio-Cortez never said: Well, obviously we don't condone that as a way to battle global warming, but yes, global warming is a serious threat that needs to be dealt with. She didn't in any way distance herself from such an extreme suggestion of cannibalism, and in not doing so Ocasio-Cortez exposed her own fanaticism.

Democrats like Barack Obama and Al Gore fly on private jets, have huge wasteful mansions, and in Obama's case, is in the process of purchasing a $14 million oceanfront home, so clearly the Democratss are not serious about a "global warming threat" they are terrifying their followers about. This staged event widens discussion of this liberal propaganda.
And I have to say, this girl was as convincing as she was hilarious. Tucker Carlson (in the clip I linked above at the end of his show when it broke, before he handed off to Hannity) rightly called it as an activist stunt and a punking, that it turned out to be.

Fox News has reported it was someone associated with a guy named Lyndon Larouche. Larouche began as a communist, before he became a far-right borderline fascist with a small but fiercely loyal cult following. He ran for president in 1980 and 1984 if I recall.


OUTBURST AT OCASIO-CORTEZ TOWN HALL MEETING WAS POLITICAL GROUP'S DOING


The activist ranting about "we need to start eating babies" was mimmicking the extremist rhetoric of actual panic-stricken Green New Deal high school and college activists.
As I cited a few days ago, they are so panic-stricken by Democrat rhetoric on the subject, in many cases from Ocasio-Cortez herself, that the world "only has 12 years left" that they need to be prescribed anti-anxiety drugs.





Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-10-06 8:59 PM



My bro Glenn Back and his co-host field it pretty well.

Crazy, or 'genius' troll? AOC voter wants to 'eat babies' and children to save the planet



\:lol\:\:lol\:\:lol\:

It's hilarious, no matter how many times you watch it.


Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-10-07 4:20 AM
So planting somebody and saying things they don't believe is not being deceptive in your opinion? You're talking about eating babies not because AOC has those views but because some group from the right staged a stunt. If her views are so extreme why indulge in such bizarre and horrid deceptions? Is this really something Tucker and Hannity spend much time on?
Posted By: the G-man Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-10-07 5:59 AM
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
So planting somebody and saying things they don't believe is not being deceptive in your opinion? You're talking about eating babies not because AOC has those views but because some group from the right staged a stunt. If her views are so extreme why indulge in such bizarre and horrid deceptions? Is this really something Tucker and Hannity spend much time on?


I watched the video. It was obviously a stunt to anyone with half a brain in their head.

Unfortunately she doesn’t have that. So she stood there with a deer in the headlight look, stammering and terrified that she might offend one of her psycho woke constituencies.

She’s a complete numbskull.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-10-07 6:04 AM
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
So planting somebody and saying things they don't believe is not being deceptive in your opinion? You're talking about eating babies not because AOC has those views but because some group from the right staged a stunt. If her views are so extreme why indulge in such bizarre and horrid deceptions? Is this really something Tucker and Hannity spend much time on?



If you'd watched the Glenn Beck clip I posted above, they explained that it's performance art.
And within 24 hours, the Larouche activists were taking credit for it. I fail to see how this was deceptive, no one tried to hide their intent, beyond getting the media to take a bite at it.

There have been many similar pranks, such as one I recall about 15 years ago, where a bunch of protestors were picketing Barney the Dinosaur for having Satanic messages, and 24 hours later, the group took credit for completely making it up, after the story had been picked up by local and national news networks nationwide.
Their point was to expose how easy it was to make a sensational and completely false story go viral across hundreds of stations nationwide, completely unconfirmed. Any one of those stations could have checked the factss, but didn't. That's the point.

The "world is going to end in 12 years" Democrat narative is likewise given exposure nationwide completely unconfirmed for the last year. All this performance protestor did was mimic the liberal rhetoric, and expose how easy it is to advance this factless narrative without any media scrutiny. She also expressed the fear that liberal "only 12 years" narrative is instilling in a lot of liberal true believers.

It's a much more intelligent and resonant heckling of their Democrat opposition, than say, shouting down Ann Coulter or Ben Shapiro or Condoleezza Rice, or tossing glitter on Newt Gingrich. This took up about 1 minute of Ocasio-Cortez's town hall meeting, vs. the complete shutdown of conservative speech, and violence against conservatives expressing their free speech and Trump support, where rather than a dialogue, Democrats use slander, intimidation and violence to shut down any opinions they disagree with.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-10-07 6:16 AM
 Originally Posted By: the G-man
I watched the video. It was obviously a stunt to anyone with half a brain in their head.

Unfortunately she[Ocasio-Cortez] doesn’t have that. So she stood there with a deer in the headlight look, stammering and terrified that she might offend one of her psycho woke constituencies.

She’s a complete numbskull.



Exactly.
Anyone with the slightest intelligence would have smiled and said, well, we obviously don't advocate something as extreme as cannibalism, but yes, we need to do everything we can to reverse global warming. But instead Ocasio-Cortez couldn't bring herself to condemn even this extremism.

Just as a month or so ago, Reps. Ocasio-Cortez, Tlaib and Omar couldn't bring themselves to condemn the attack on an ICE facility in Portland, Oregon by an Antifa guy. A guy who during the attack was ranting almost verbatim Ocasio-Cortez's poisonous rhetoric about how ICE facilities were comparaable to Nazi concentration camps.
Because whatever advances their Bolshevik revolution, whatever slander, violence, intimidation, they're for it. But they don't want to comment or take credit for it. And she is responsible for it.
Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-10-08 2:47 AM
Well I've seen her speak up at a town hall when somebody was calling some republican names. And in the case of the lady from the far right who wants to eat babies Cortez was tweeted asking the GOP to be sensitive to the lady who had obviously had mental illness issues. Seems like a reasonable conclusion. Why would she assume it would be a plant from the far right? And wouldn't it be more sensible to debate her policies instead of these character attacks?
Posted By: the G-man Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-10-09 2:48 AM
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
Well I've seen her speak up at a town hall when somebody was calling some republican names. And in the case of the lady from the far right who wants to eat babies Cortez was tweeted asking the GOP to be sensitive to the lady who had obviously had mental illness issues. Seems like a reasonable conclusion. Why would she assume it would be a plant from the far right? And wouldn't it be more sensible to debate her policies instead of these character attacks?


Her inability to shut down somebody who floated an insane idea is a discussion of her policies.

And the man who calls Trump a piece of shit on a regular basis has no business bemoaning character attacks.
Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-10-09 4:17 AM
Trump of course would never call somebody from his party out at one of his rallies like she did. He slings the shit himself. I'm just pointing out that from AOC's tweets afterwards that she thought the lady was mentally ill and was still concerned about her. Given what the far right wacko was saying about eating babies that actually sounded like a rational guess. It just seems like if this is where conservatives are at on attacking AOC instead of her policies that she supports it looks lame. It's just the 3 of us G for the most part, I'm just being honest here.
Posted By: the G-man Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-10-09 2:33 PM
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
Trump of course would never call somebody from his party out at one of his rallies like she did. He slings the shit himself. I'm just pointing out that from AOC's tweets afterwards that she thought the lady was mentally ill and was still concerned about her. Given what the far right wacko was saying about eating babies that actually sounded like a rational guess. It just seems like if this is where conservatives are at on attacking AOC instead of her policies that she supports it looks lame. It's just the 3 of us G for the most part, I'm just being honest here.


“ButTrump” in no way disproves my criticisms of her.
Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-10-10 4:04 AM
You brought up Trump in the previous post. Your criticism is that she should have known that the person saying crazy things about eating babies was a plant. I honestly don't see that but if you feel that way it's not really something to prove or disprove.
Posted By: the G-man Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-10-10 7:34 PM
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
You brought up Trump in the previous post.


Only as an illustration of your tendency to engage in character attacks.
Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-10-11 2:39 AM
Lol, well Trump is probably a poor choice on your part. He was an awful person when he was a democrat. I think everyone here including myself could do a better job on not engaging in constant character attacks. Honestly though on this particular bit with AOC we disagree. These type of tactics from either side are not a good thing and I give her points for calling out supporters for name calling the other side.
Posted By: the G-man Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-10-11 4:40 AM
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
I think everyone here including myself could do a better job on not engaging in constant character attacks. Honestly though on this particular bit with AOC we disagree. These type of tactics from either side are not a good thing and I give her points for calling out supporters for name calling the other side.


I live in NY so I get a lot of the AOC coverage and just find her an intellectual lightweight who isn't nearly as clever or engaged as she seems to think about herself. I also find her to be thin skinned.

My opinion of Trump is that he has some of the same flaws as her. However, he tends to govern as a conservative. So, while I don't like his character one whit at least I can agree with a lot (but not all) of his policies.

Beyond that, yeah, I agree with you on the personal attacks. It's one thing to joke about a politician, be it AOC or DJT, but it's another to call her the c-word or him a POS.
Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-10-11 4:56 AM
Oh Trump is an evil piece of corrupt shit. I don't have a problem calling a turd a turd. I don't extend that to the whole party though.
Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2019-10-11 5:02 AM
And even with Trump I don't support tactics like planting people or trying to shout out conversations.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2020-09-02 5:54 PM


KENNEDY CONCEDES ELECTION TO FAR-LEFT-BACKED ED MARKEY IN DEMOCRAT SENATE PRIMARY


The candidate backed by the far-left/Bolshevik wing of the Democrat party has displaced a member of the Kennedy dynasy. The Kennedy family (JFK, RFK, Ted) have been the gold standard for the Democrat party for 60 years, the height of the party's ideals and vision for the country.

That has now been displaced by Cultural Marxist likes of Ocasio-Cortez, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren.

The same week Antifa and Black Lives Matter have killed several Trump supporters in the streets. I seem to have missed the news report where any of the Democrat leadership condemned these killings. But then, when your Democrat pesidentiaal candidate can't even mention Antifa by name, it's pretty hard to criticize political violence.

This is the bullet-train to crazy-town.

Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2020-09-02 6:12 PM


 Originally Posted By: from the article

As the campaign hurled toward the finish line, acrimony on both sides boiled over. Kennedy's team called on Markey's campaign to knock off their online attacks directed at their candidate and his supporters, that included death threats.


Once again demonstrating the violent tendecies of the Bolshevik Democrat-Left. Directed even at their own. Even being a Bolshevik doesn't make you safe, if you're not their kind of Bolshevik.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2021-04-13 7:57 PM
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Ocasio-Cortez weaponizes social media Tucker Carlson, April 9 2021


She weaponizes her following to attack anyone who simply disagrees with her political views, to have those dissenting views purged from social media.

Another example of the Democrat party using tactics identical to those of the People's Republic of China or the Soviet Union. To intimidate, silence and purge any views or platform for those who dissent from their views or present logical arguments for their political opposition.
That is not the American way. The American way is public debate where the best ideas win. The Bolshevik way is to slander, intimidate and silence opposing views from ever being heard. The Democrats have unapologetically become the Bolshevik party.
Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2021-04-14 3:14 AM
You want to cancel coke because a ceo dared to speak out against a law that criminalizes giving water to someone standing in a long line. Trump just went on a huge rant at McConnell, Pence and other republicans who wouldn’t help him toss out an election. AOC has called out her own supporters for attacking republicans and gets continuous death threats from republicans. AOC says she didn’t ask for this to be checked out. Again she gets death threats regularly from the Tucker audience so someone calling an interview underwhelming probably doesn’t even show up on her radar.
“ The Capitol Police confirmed to Fox News that the Ocasio-Cortez did not flag any tweets from @queeralamode as threatening and police started this investigation as part of its regular effort to monitor threats.

"USCP investigates all threats that are reported by Congressional offices. The Department also monitors open and classified sources to identify and investigate threats," the Capitol Police said in a statement to Fox News. "This is standard operating procedure for the Department. As it pertains to this incident, the Congresswomen did not request that USCP initiate an investigation."


A Capitol police official further clarified that the podcaster came on their radar not for the tweet on Ocasio-Cortez's Israel policy or anything else that he wrote. Rather, the Californian was tagged in a tweet authored by another user that was deemed threatening.

"They were tagged in a tweet that was perceived as threatening that prompted us to look into this," the United States Capitol Police official told Fox News.

That tweet has since been taken down from Twitter.”

Fox news

I’m enjoying a nice icy glass of Coca Cola btw, cheers smile.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2021-04-15 3:28 AM
You're such a liar propagandist, M E M.

The law does not ban people in voting precinct lines from being able to get water in line. The state election officials often provide those. ONLY PARTISAN GROUPS are barred from providing water or other enticements to voters in line, as a way to influence and buy their votes.
You're a liar, and YOU KNOW you're a liar and misrepresenting the true facts.

Even the far-left Atlanta Journal-Constitution that initially reported the new election laws are "racist", offered a retraction admitting that under further review, the new Georgia election laws are fair, not racist, and improve election integrity by making it harder to fraudulently vote.
Further, Georgia (while unfairly bashed by Coca Cola, American Airlines and United Airlines, and the Hollywood elite) actually still has far less restrictive election laws now than Colorado where the Baseball game was moved to, less restrictive than New York state election laws, and less restrictive than Joe Biden's state of Delaware. Coca Cola doesn't believe what their CEO is saying, they're just trying to appease the BLM mob in a submission to racial extortion, to be woke enough that BLM won't attack their company. Go along to get along. Coke's siding against laws that actually provide election integrity makes them traitors and part of an insurrection, that I will not support. They are trying to intimidate Georgia officials to accept a Bolshevik coup that undermines election integrity. And tGeorgia should have suspended the Senate elections until the new integrity laws were enacted. They handed two Senate seats to the rigged Bolshevik insurrection.
The Democrats hurt Atlanta area businesses (the largest black metropolitan region), a region hurting for a year now with Covid-19 shutdowns, and deprived them of a national event that would have allowed them to recover, and instead moved the event to Colorado, declaring the new Georgia election laws are "racist", and are in fact punishing the 51% black business owners in Georgia, by moving the event to a region in Colorado that is 10% black, and has even more restrictive election laws. Yeah, that makes sense...

I've watched the video of Ocasio-Cortez calling on her millions of followers to flag posts by her political opposition, Tucker Carlson played a clip of it in his video above.
She said it, no question.
And I guarantee you that whatever threats Ocasio-Cortez gets from conservatives (threats I don't endorse, they just let O-C play the victim), I guarantee you that any prominent conservative gets more threats that are more likely to actually be carried out. I posted here a year ago that Rep. Derek Gaetz (R-FL) reported and played a phone message where a guy bragged he could shoot Gaetz with a rifle from a mile away at anytime and "make your head explode like a watermelon". The 97% Democrat-donating FBI/DOJ "investigated" and talked to the caller, but filed no charges, made no arrest, and said it was "not a serious threat".
WHAT ?!?

I guarantee you, if Schumer or Pelosi, or Ocasio-Cortez, any other Democrat from "the Squad" or any other Democrat got a similar threat, the caller would be sitting in a jail cell without bail until trial.
Case in point the violent BLM and Antifa lunatics who looted and burned 275 cities last year.
With the ones who are still attacking federal buildings in Portland and Seattle nightly for the last 6 months.
With the ones who attacked Trump's White House in May 2020.
With the BLM/Antifa leftists who attacked Republicans in the streets of Washington DC in July 2020 as they left the Republican National Convention.
With the BLM/Antifa lunatic John Earle Sullivan and his group, who ohestrated the death of Ashli Babbitt on Jan 6th inside the Capitol, and openly boasted about it in multiple videos on Facebook and Twitter, WHO WAS RELEASED ON BAIL AND AT HOME, STILL POSTING HIS INCITEMENT OF VIOLENCE ON FACEBOOK AND TWITTER. While the president is permanently banned and labelled as "too dangerous" on those same two social media platforms. Sullivan, who got a girl killed on Jan 6th, is allowed to be at home and on social media, and all these other BLM?Antifa violent offenders are set free.
While simultaneously hundreds of Trump supporters who did far less, most who only stepped inside the Capitol that day and many were unwitting trespassers, remain in jail without bail for months.

Hey, no double standard, none at all. rolleyes
Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2021-04-15 5:58 AM
To be clear...
The facts about Georgia’s ban on food and water
“ SB 202 makes it a crime for people — and not just people from political organizations — to hand out food or bottles of water within 150 feet of a polling place or 25 feet of any voter standing in line.

The only kernel of truth is that the law has a sentence which allows poll workers to make available "self-service water from an unattended receptacle to an elector waiting in line to vote." But just because poll workers can make self-service water available, doesn’t mean they are required to come up with a way to make water accessible to voters in every line at every polling site. Also, people could hand out water or food to voters outside the 150-foot and 25-foot boundaries.”
Even on Fox’s Sunday show Wallace wasn’t buying the bullshit being peddled by republican propaganda people. So do you double down on the lie WB knowing that I know it’s a lie?
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2021-04-19 2:02 AM
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Politifact is, of course, a partisan liberal site, a division of the leftist Tampa Bay Times. It's a spin site for the liberal media that selects Republicans as targets 75% of the time, but fronts itself as a "neutral" fact site. But it's liberal spin, nonetheless.


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahb...t--anti-black-lives-matter-flag-n2579122

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PolitiFact

https://conservapedia.com/PolitiFact



https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/03/joe-biden-botches-the-georgia-voting-law/

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Let’s take a look at what S.B. 202 actually says:

  • No person shall solicit votes [or] distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink, to [a voter] … This Code section shall not be construed to prohibit a poll officer…from making available self-service water from an unattended receptacle to [a voter] waiting in line to vote.

    The parts in bold are what S.B. 202 added to the statute. The prohibition applies inside polling places, within 150 feet of a polling place, or “within 25 feet of any voter standing in line to vote at any polling place.”


Now, first of all, notice what is not prohibited here. Voters can still bring bottled water or other food or beverages with them to stand on line to vote, as people often do when waiting at Disney World or to buy concert tickets or in other public places where people stand on long lines. Voters can still also, if they like, order food; the bill doesn’t stop the Domino’s Pizza man or the local hot dog cart or taco truck from doing business. And if you feel impelled to donate food and drink to voters, you can still do that, too; you just have to give it to the poll workers so they can put it out for general use. The president’s claim that “You can’t provide water for people about to vote” is just false. What you cannot do under the new Georgia law is deploy people in National Rifle Association t-shirts and MAGA hats to hand out free Koch-brothers-financed, Federalist Society–branded pizza to voters.

While state laws vary, many other states have electioneering bans that prevent people from giving gifts to voters, approaching voters on line or in the process of voting, or wearing or displaying political messages around the polling place. Minnesota law has a broad ban on approaching voters:

  • No one except an election official or an individual who is waiting to register or to vote or an individual who is conducting exit polling shall stand within 100 feet of the building in which a polling place is located. Minn. Stat. § 204C.06


In 2018, the Supreme Court in Minn. Voters Alliance v. Mansky found that Minnesota had a valid basis for its ban on voters wearing any sort of political badge, button, or insignia inside a polling place. Chief Justice Roberts, noting that the majority of states had some restrictions on campaign-related clothing and accessories at the polls, explained:

  • We see no basis for rejecting Minnesota’s determination that some forms of advocacy should be excluded from the polling place, to set it aside as an island of calm in which voters can peacefully contemplate their choices. . . . Casting a vote is a weighty civic act, akin to a jury’s return of a verdict, or a representative’s vote on a piece of legislation. It is a time for choosing, not campaigning. The State may reasonably decide that the interior of the polling place should reflect that distinction.


Seven Justices joined that opinion, which nonetheless found that the law entangled Minnesota too much into deciding what messages were political; the two dissenters would have upheld the law.




Montana’s law aims directly at campaigns handing out food, drink, or tobacco:

  • On election day, a candidate, a family member of a candidate, or a worker or volunteer for the candidate’s campaign may not distribute alcohol, tobacco, food, drink, or anything of value to a voter within a polling place or a building in which an election is being held or within 100 feet of an entrance to the building in which the polling place is located. § 13-35-211, MCA


New York makes “Furnishing money or entertainment to induce attendance at polls” a class A misdemeanor, and explicitly includes handing out “meat, drink, tobacco, refreshment or provision” unless it is worth less than a dollar and the person providing it is not identified:

  • Any person who…in respect of any election during the hours of voting…gives or provides, or causes to be given or provided, or shall pay, wholly or in part, for any meat, drink, tobacco, refreshment or provision to or for any person, other than [poll workers and other voting officials], except any such meat, drink, tobacco, refreshment or provision having a retail value of less than one dollar, which is given or provided to any person in a polling place without any identification of the person or entity supplying such provisions, is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor. N.Y. Elec. Law § 17-140


Biden’s own home state of Delaware bans giving gifts or rewards to voters in presidential primary elections:

  • Whoever…pays, transfers or delivers, or offers…any money, or other valuable thing as a compensation, inducement or reward for the giving or withholding or in any manner influencing the giving or withholding a vote…shall be fined not less than $100 nor more than $5,000 or imprisoned not less than 1 month nor more than 3 years, or both. 15 Del. C. § 3167


Laws of these sorts have been the product of experience. In 1998, the Supreme Court of Kentucky, in Ellis v. Meeks, threw out the results of a primary election where the winner, Meeks (who prevailed by eight votes) had handed out free food at the polling place, and made it available to voters. The court rejected the argument that this was all harmless because there was no direct evidence that he had changed any votes or had demanded any explicit quid pro quo from voters:

  • At ten of the fifteen voting stations in the 11th Ward, Meeks made free food available to anyone present, glad-handed voters as they entered, and spoke with voters as they signed in to vote. Based upon this evidence, we… hold that Meeks’ non-verbal conduct solicited votes and amounted to electioneering within 500 feet of a building where votes were being cast…We can conceive of no other explanation for his actions…. We find that making free food available to precinct workers and voters was an item of value offered by Meeks in exchange for their votes or moral support in violation of [Kentucky law].




Georgia’s law follows the same line of reasoning: The obvious motive of showing up to hand things directly to voters, rather than just providing them to poll workers to distribute, is to influence their votes.

Once upon a time, American elections were different; we had no secret ballot, and openly bribing voters was considered a standard part of democracy. George Washington famously handed out whiskey on voting day when he ran for the House of Burgesses, and so did most everybody else in his era. But our laws have cracked down on those tactics for a reason.

Is there a problem with voters standing on long lines to vote? Yes, there is, and it tends to fall more heavily on black voters. But unfortunately, in states such as Georgia, the problem of long lines is largely under the control of local Democratic officials rather than the Republicans who run the state, who nonetheless get all the blame from the national media.

While you would not learn this from the Democrats or their sympathetic media coverage, S.B. 202 actually takes steps to fix those long lines. Georgia law previously allowed the state to override local election officials and require them to add more precincts or voting machines if people were left standing on line for an hour after the polls closed. S.B. 202 expands that authority, so that the state can step in and require more polling places or voting machines if voters in overcrowded precincts face lines of an hour or more at any of three measured intervals during the day. Read the new section for yourself:

If, at the previous general election, a precinct contained more than 2,000 electors and if [voters] desiring to vote on the day of the election had to wait in line for more than one hour before checking in to vote, the superintendent shall either reduce the size of such precinct so that it shall contain not more than 2,000 electors…or provide additional voting equipment or poll workers, or both, before the next general election….The chief manager of a precinct which contained more than 2,000 electors at the previous general election shall submit a report thereof to the superintendent of the reported time from entering the line to checking in to vote. Such wait time shall be measured no fewer than three different times throughout the day (in the morning, at midday, and prior to the close of polls) and such results shall be recorded on a form provided by the Secretary of State.

This is the right direction: Instead of allowing electioneering while people wait on long lines, eliminate both the electioneering and the lines. That’s what Joe Biden’s ranting is supposed to distract you from hearing.
Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2021-04-19 11:43 PM
Your conservative biased site talked around what Biden nailed. A neighbor standing in line for hours can’t hand another neighbor a bottle of water behind them without committing a felony. Politifact also explains that while poll workers may choose to supply water in unattended areas it’s not mandated. Actually the law makes that clear but your biased link tries to obscure it. And at this point trumpers have proven that they will do almost anything they can to win. Long lines in urban areas to discourage heavier democratic turnout probably doesn’t even require extra viagra for them to get a woody. I’m enjoying a nice frosty glass of coke now btw. Are you enjoying one of Lindells expensive lumpy pillows?
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2021-04-20 4:10 AM
Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Your conservative biased site talked around what Biden nailed. A neighbor standing in line for hours can’t hand another neighbor a bottle of water behind them without committing a felony. Politifact also explains that while poll workers may choose to supply water in unattended areas it’s not mandated. Actually the law makes that clear but your biased link tries to obscure it. And at this point trumpers have proven that they will do almost anything they can to win. Long lines in urban areas to discourage heavier democratic turnout probably doesn’t even require extra viagra for them to get a woody. I’m enjoying a nice frosty glass of coke now btw. Are you enjoying one of Lindells expensive lumpy pillows?


Biden didn't "nail" anything, his Bolshevik puppetmasters plan everything he is credited with doing, and Biden can't even read the script they wrote for him to take credit for.

Politifact is a partisan spin site that is openly Democrat, and 75% of the time targets Republicans. I recall one of their "factchecks" about rapes by muslim immigrants Trump cited in Sweden, that they portrayed as untrue, and as I cited and linked at the time, despite the "factcheck" saying otherwise, Trump was 100% right. They twist themselves in knots to allege Trump or other Republicans are "not true" or "pants on fire", and conversely bend over backward to twist the truth and make Democrat liars appear honest. It's liberal spin lyingly packaged as "Factcheck", funded by Soros-type groups. As Sharyl Attkisson cited in her 56-minute video that I linked in the Media Bias topic.

What I posted above cites what multiple states have in similar election law. Your "water isn't actually wet" sophistry doesn't negate the facts I posted. Only one time in 40 years of voting have I had to wait in line in a crowd for any length of time, and it was because I voted in prime voting time 5:30 PM to 6:30 PM, after work in 2000. I had to wait in a large crowd for about 45 minutes if I recall. It was actually quite pleasant, a lot of friendly conversation among us in line.

And as I linked and sourced, you won't die of thirst under the new laws, it just prevents you from getting the water from a partisan for the purpose of influencing or buying someone's vote, or within a certain distance of the door.
As stated above (cited above) even liberal states like New York or Biden's own state of Delaware have similar laws, so Georgia's law that follows the same reasoning is not restrictive or "racist". Many states not demonized like Georgia actually have stricter laws.

And here's a suggestion: Eat or drink BEFORE or AFTER you go to the polls. Even if I had to wait in line for one or two hours (which I never have) I would neither starve to death or die of thirst. You are arguing ridiculously hyperbolic things.
Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2021-04-20 9:24 AM
You again are wrong about the poll workers part. The law only says poll workers may provide water if choose to do so. (Sourced and cited by me already) Not shocking that you a trumper feel it isn’t insane that handing a bottle of water to the neighbor behind you in a long line is worthy of a felony. I would also point out that the other laws your partisan site sources as being similar actually are conditional on the distance from the building but do not include the line like the Georgia law.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2021-04-24 1:12 AM
Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
You again are wrong about the poll workers part. The law only says poll workers may provide water if choose to do so. (Sourced and cited by me already) Not shocking that you a trumper feel it isn’t insane that handing a bottle of water to the neighbor behind you in a long line is worthy of a felony. I would also point out that the other laws your partisan site sources as being similar actually are conditional on the distance from the building but do not include the line like the Georgia law.

Linked and sourced already. If you can't read and comprehend the facts cited, I don't know how to help you.

You are committed to fronting a narrative that people will die of thirst in line, despite the cited facts that prove it to be a lie, and that other Democrat states like New York and Delaware, and Colorado where Major League Baseball is moving Atlanta's games to, actually have far more restrictive election laws than Georgia's new laws .
Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2021-04-24 1:36 AM
You’re exaggerating. Nothing was said about dying of thirst. Even Chris Wallace on Fox wasn’t buying the bs being peddled. It’s not an exaggeration that the bill would make it a felony for a neighbor handing another neighbor a bottle of water while waiting in line to vote.
Posted By: Wonder Boy Re: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez - 2021-04-26 12:55 AM
Originally Posted by M E M
Your conservative biased site talked around what Biden nailed. A neighbor standing in line for hours can’t hand another neighbor a bottle of water behind them without committing a felony. Politifact also explains that while poll workers may choose to supply water in unattended areas it’s not mandated. Actually the law makes that clear but your biased link tries to obscure it. And at this point trumpers have proven that they will do almost anything they can to win. Long lines in urban areas to discourage heavier democratic turnout probably doesn’t even require extra viagra for them to get a woody. I’m enjoying a nice frosty glass of coke now btw. Are you enjoying one of Lindells expensive lumpy pillows?

That's you lying.



Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
You’re exaggerating. Nothing was said about dying of thirst. Even Chris Wallace on Fox wasn’t buying the bs being peddled. It’s not an exaggeration that the bill would make it a felony for a neighbor handing another neighbor a bottle of water while waiting in line to vote.

That's you denying you previously lied above.

What I posted cites that the same laws about activists giving food, drink or other favors to them in line by political activists are mirrored in many other states, including DEMOCRAT-controlled states. So Georgia's new laws are not overly restrictive, and the near identical laws in other states, even in DEMOCRAT-controlled states reflect that. Georgia's new elction laws are neither overly restrictive, or at all "racist". Yours is a lying talking points attack, not a fact. As I proved with an article that cited the similar laws in multiple states.
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