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The 2005 Royal Rumble Match

    The Royal Rumble is a chance for 30 WWE Superstars to catapult themselves into the main event of WrestleMania. Last year Chris Benoit won the Rumble and went on to WrestleMania to become World Champion, achieving an 18-year dream. But this year it was starting to look like it was 1994 all over again.

    In 1994 Lex Luger and Bret "Hit Man" Hart hit the floor at exactly the same time, and both were declared co-winners of the match. This year's final four saw Edge, Rey Mysterio, John Cena and Batista battling it out for the coveted main event slot at WrestleMania 21.

    Edge started delivering spears to everyone, but Mysterio bounced back and hit Edge with the 619. Edge bounced back and tried to toss Mysterio over the top rope. Mysterio hung on, but then Edge speared him out to the floor. Edge had no time for celebration, however, as Cena and Batista teamed up to throw him out. And then there were two. Batista, representing Raw, and Cena, representing SmackDown!, clashed for the all important title shot. Cena had Batista up for the F-U, but Batista fought out of it.

    The animal of Evolution then hoisted Cena up for the Batista bomb and tried to throw him out. The momentum of the maneuver, however, led to both Superstars falling out of the ring and hitting the floor at the same time. Just like Luger and Hart did in 1994.

    But Mr. McMahon would not let history repeat itself. The Chairman came down to the irng and ordered that Batista and Cena resume the match. Batista went right back to work and hit a brutal Batista Bomb before throwing out the Dr. of Thuganomics. So now that all of the smoke has cleared, the animal of Evolution, Batista will be going on to headline WrestleMania 21.

    Order of entry: Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, Daniel Puder, Hardcore Holly, Hurricane, Kenzo Suzuki, Edge, Rey Mysterio, Shelton Benjamin, Booker T, Chris Jericho, Luther Reigns, Muhammad Hussan, Orlando Jordan, Scotty 2 Hotty (never officially entered the ring), Charlie Haas, Rene Dupree, Simon Dean, Shawn Michaels, Kurt Angle, Coach, Mark Jindrak, Viscera, Paul London, John Cena, Gene Snitsky, Kane, Batista, Christian, Ric Flair.

    Order of elimination: Puder, Holly, Hurricane, Suzuki, Hassan, Reigns, Jordan, Booker T, Benjamin, Guerrero, Dean, Haas, Angle, Michaels, Dupree, Viscera, London, Jindrak, Snitsky, Jericho, Kane, Coach, Christian, Benoit, Flair, Mysterio, Edge, Cena.


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World Heavyweight Championship

    Triple H once saw Randy Orton as a future World Heavyweight Champion. But Randy Orton shot up the ladder of success just a little too quickly for The Game's liking. Once Randy Orton defeated Chris Benoit for the World Championship at SummerSlam, Triple H rained on the third genereation Superstar's parade and unceremoniously kicked him out of Evolution, leaving him a bloody mess in the process.

    Triple H defeated Orton one month later to regain his World Heavyewight Championship, and outside of participating in the Evolution Chamber at New Year's Revolution, this is Orton's first chance at revenge against Triple H. RAW General Manager Eric Bischoff tried to ensure that Batista wouldn't play a role in the outcome this time, as he banned Evolution from ringside.

    From the outset, you could tell that matters went much deeper than the World Championship. You could tell things were intensely personal when Orton started the match by slapping the taste out of Triple H's mouth. But it wasn't long before Triple H's experience started to make an impact. A la fellow Evolution member Ric Flair, Triple H began to systematically work on Orton's left leg. After softening his leg up with a series of moves, Triple H locked in the figure four leglock. After several moments of excruciating pain in the maneuver, Orton was able to reverse the hold.

    Orton came back with a flurry, hitting a modified neck breaker, swinging neck breaker and a powerslam, but all it could get Orton was a two-count. As Orton went to work on Triple H in the corner, The Game came back with an inverted atomic drop, but Orton came back with a fling bodypress. Triple H tried to lock in the Pedigree, but Orton countered into a slingshot.

    Orton set up for the RKO, but Triple H saw it coming and sent him into the corner before hitting a knee lift. Triple H set up for the Pedigree once again, but Orton countered into a clotheseline for a near fall. After missing a DDT, Orton seemed out on his feet. As the referee checked on him, Triple H nailed both of them in the corner, knocking the ref out in the process.

    With the ref down, Triple H went for his trusty Sledgehammer. As Triple H went in for the kill, Orton sent The Game face-first into the ring post. As both Superstars cralwed back into the ring,Triple H hit a clothesline and the Pedigree for the win to retain his World Heavyweight Championship


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TRIPLE THREAT MATCH: WWE Champion JBL vs. kurt angle vs. big show

    JBL has been on quite an impressive roll ever since becoming WWE Champion. He has taken on all comers in all sorts of matches, and every time, he finds away to walk away with the WWE Championship.

    He has beaten Eddie Guerrero, Undertaker and Booker T, but now he had to defend the title against Big Show and Kurt Angle at the same time in a Triple Threat Match. JBL had already been victorious in Last Ride, Bullrope and Fatal Fourway Matches, but how would he fare in the dangerous Triple Threat Match?

    Big Show dominated early on, taking on both Angle and JBL at once. He sent both to the outside with a clothesline over the top. Big Show had JBL set up for a chokeslam through the SmackDown! announce table, but Angle nailed Big Show with a monitor, sending him through the table, knocking him temporarily out of commission. Kurt Angle was able to execute two German suplexes on the WWE Champion, but Big Show recovered from his fall and re-entered the fray.

    Big Show went for a double chokeslam, but Angle attacked his knee. Then JBL hit a Clotheseline From Hell and Angle went low, attacking the knee at the same time. After a couple of near falls for both Angle and JBL, the action spilled to the outside once again. Big Show leveled JBL and sent him through the barrier, leaving both men lying on the cement floor in pain. Angle then tried to hide a chair in one of the corners, as he was playing possum, trying to lure Big Show in for the kill.

    Big Show was able to hit a flapjack, though, as Angle's head bounced off the very chair he was holding. Mark Jindrak stormed the ring, to break up the pin, though. Meanwhile, on the outside, JBL's Chief of Staff Orlando Jordan and his Co-Secretaries of Defense the Basham Brothers came down to make sure he was OK, as paramedics were ready to stretcher him out.

    Jindrak and Luther Reigns dragged Big Show out and kept him occupied, and then Jordan shoved JBL back into the ring. JBL recovered just in time to hit a thunderous Clothesline From Hell on a surprised Angle and picked up the win.

    JBL walked into the Royal Rumble as the champion, and once again, he walked out with the gold still in tact around his waist.


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CASKET MATCH: undertaker vs. heidenreich

    Heidenreich has been out to destroy Undertaker ever since No Mercy last October. Heidenreich has cost Undertaker the WWE Championship on two seperate occasions. At No Mercy, Heidenreich jumped out of the hearse and attacked Undertaker as he was ready to defeat JBL. Then, as Undertaker was primed to win the Fatal Fourway at Armageddon, Heidenreich made his presence known once again as he attacked the Deadman. Undertaker has finally found Heidenreich's weakness, though...caskets.

    Ever since Undertaker has announced that their Royal Rumble match would be a Casket Match, Heidenreich has been visibly terrified whenever the mere thought or word casket is mentioned. Before the match, Heidenreich had an encounter with RAW's Gene Snitsky.

    Both maniacal Superstars admitted to hating caskets, but Snitsky claimed he had a plan. Only time would tell what the two animals would have in store for the Phenom. Undertaker jumped out to the early advantage, but Heidenreich bounced back, whipping Undertaker right into the casket, back-first. Heidenreich unleashed a bevy of punches, but Undertaker countered with a triangle choke.

    Then, Snitsky and Heidenreich's plan started to come to fruition as Snitsky came down and tried to take out Taker. After a doulbe suplex, Heidenreich called to the refs to open the casket, but when they did, Kane emerged to help his brother, but more importantly, to take out Snitsky.

    Kane and Snitsky started battling through the crowd as Undertaker and Heidenreich continued their match. One two separate occasions, Heidenreich had Undertaker down and in the casket, but both times he tried to close the lid, the Deadman got his arm up just in the nick of time. Even though Heidenreich hit his swinging sidewalk slam, Undertaker came back and hit a DDT, Chokeslam and the deadly Tombstone Piledriver to put Heidenreich away as he slammed the lid shut on his nemesis.


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SHAWN MICHAELS VS. EDGE

    Edge has made it no secret that he thinks that everyone is out to get him. Edge feels that the World Heavyweight Championship rightfully belongs around his waist. And no one has been a thorn in his side more than Shawn Michaels. Edge has never been the same mentally since HBK was voted in to get a title shot at Taboo Tuesday, a title shot that Edge felt he deserved.

    After weeks and months of going at it, the two rivals met at the Royal Rumble to try and settle the rivalry once and for all. As expected, the action was intense and hard-hitting. Over the weeks and months this match was personal, and it showed. Edge gained the early advantage with a baseball slide that laid out HBK on the outside, but the two Superstars would trade the upper hand over and over throughout the contest.

    Edge looked to have everything going his way midway through the match. Edge nailed Michaels with the spear on the outside. HBK gotback into the ring on the count of nine, narrowly avoiding the count-out. Edge then mocked the fallen Michaels, and started to "warm up the band." As Michaels rose to his feet, Edge hit another spear, but HBK somehow managed to kick out at three. Edge was on the verge of snapping as he began pulling out his own hair, and HBK capitalized.

    Edge had the Showstopper set up for a superplex, but Michaels knocked Edge off the ropes and nailed he flying elbow. Then it was Michaels turn to "warm up the band" but before he could connect with the Sweet Chin Music, Edge countered into an Electric Chair. He followed it up by locking in his Edgecator Submission Move, but HBK was able to get to the ropes.

    Edge tried to reapply the move, but HBK reversed it into a pinning combination. Edge kicked out and rveresed another HBK pinning attempt into a rollup of his own and used the ropes for leverage to get the 1-2-3 over his arch nemesis, Shawn Michaels. Edge got the win, but will it really be the end of this biter rivalry?


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for those without the cash...







or those who wouldnt waste it.......

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random, and possibly drunken, notes:

    flair was the final rumble entry. they did a scene where flair and eddy chose numbers and flair was thrilled and eddy was mad. so eddy hugged flair and switched the paper with thenumber in his pocket. then theodore long made him give it back. so eddy was 1 and flair was 30

    they set up these great future interpromotional matches:
    taker and kane vs snitsky and heidenreich
    hbk vs angle
    eddy vs benoit
    cena vs batista

    edge pinned hbk while holding the ropes, jbl beat thoseguys with lots of run ins, and hhh beat orton clean

    batista got a MONSTEROUS pop, as did cena.

    the "mystery rumble guy" was nunzio.

    then angle lost the three way to jbl, so he stole nunzios number and threatened to beat him up and stole his spot in the rumble.

    hussan and daivari were banned from the building by theodore long

    they had a great scene where carlito tried to get batista to sign the petition and batista said no so carlito bit the apple and chewed in batista's direction, then batista threatened to stick the petition up his ass and carlito decided not to spit and walked away

    in another very weird scene, heid was scared backstage, snitsky came over and had another very gay/bizarre exchange, snit came down to help heid in the match, kane emerged from casket to fend off snit, yadda yadda yadda tombstone


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They should've given the win to Cena. I feel that he's the guy to carry the company. You want the next Austin or Rock? I'm telling you right now it's John Cena. Granted, it's still possible that things'll get turned around so that Cena may very well be fighting for one of the World titles at 'mania, but in my opinion, Vince just blew a GOLDEN opportunity.


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Also unlike the recent Benoit/Edge controversy you could blatantly see that Cenas feet hit the floor second seeing as he basically landed on top of Batista.
The whole thing with the Rumble is that "both" feet must touch the floor.
Anyone with half a brain could see Batista landed first.

Looks like Vince smashed his knee up the way ended up sitting on the floor of the ring!

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Triple H hit a clothesline and the Pedigree for the win to retain his World Heavyweight Championship




Holy shit! HHH won?! I'd never have guessed that ending! Color me surprised.


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Most impressive thing of the night was Paul London selling that clothesline from Snitsky.....or was it Batista.....who cares who did the clothesline,London fucking rocks!

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Anyone with half a brain could see Batista landed first.






So how did you figure it out?


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Anyone with half a brain could see Batista landed first.






So how did you figure it out?




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I wouldn't be surprised if we see Cena tonight on RAW....


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The fact remains, however, that Cena got boned. The Rumble is the spot where stars go on to become Superstars: Bret, HBK, Austin, and Rock all spring to mind as Royal Rumble winners who went on to be HUGE. I feel that this would've been the perfect opportunity to push Cena in that direction. His got the in-ring talents, he's got the charisma, and he's got the fans behind him. All he needs is that one little "oomph" to get him where he should be. However, giving the win to Batista may very well derail the Cena train.

It's funny how the WWE recap makes a comparison to the Hart-Luger finish from ten years ago.

John Cena is much like Bret Hart- The extremely talented wrestler who the fans have gotten behind.
And Batista is like Lex- the somewhat talented but very muscled big guy who McMahon has fooled the fans into thinking they like. Though in all fairness, Batista seems slightly more over than Lex ever was.


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END. BRAND. DIVISION. Then let the wrestlers battle each other. Let Cena and Batista renew a feud that was probably done in OVW. Let JBL sleepwalk through matches with different competitors. Give us Edge vs Benoit vs Jericho vs Eddie vs Christian vs Angle vs whomever else. Give us a Champion culled from a decent field of competitors. Give us back a Tag Team division that isn't made up of two good teams and a bunch of people put together because the writers are too fucking lazy to think of anything. Mix up the cruiserweight division and let them battle in a division worth their wrestling (and our viewing) time. Give us new rivalries, renewed rivalries, and alliances that shock us at how much sense they make. Take that fucking belt off Son In Law, keep Flair and Michaels as far away from action as is humanly possible (one is a shell of himself physically, the other due to "personality"), and give us an overall product that'll make us say "TN-who?"

Or continue to tread water and wonder why you don't shine lights into the upper seats and your house shows aren't as packed as they used to be. Marvel at the fact that your DVDs sell better than your PPVs. And sink into the tarpit of obscurity like a good little dinosaur.

It's a sad state of affairs when I - a fan who dropped the WWE altogether to focus more time, energy, and interest on the RDCW - can come up with consistently better matches and angles for free than a group of "professionals" who get paid big bucks for the same. Fuck you, WWE.


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Well a few rumours that were circulating before the Rumble seem now to bear some truth.
Biggest rumour was Wrestlemania will feature HBK vs Angle,which now seems definite.
Another runour is JBL vs Cena for the title at WM,so dont give up hope yet Snarf.

Of course the new rumour is Snitsky/Heidenreich vs Kane/Taker so dont expect either of these rivalries to finish for a while at least.

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Still, it would've given Cena a TON of credibility if he had won the Rumble. And I don't mean if they reverse the decision on Smackdown this Thursday due to shocking footage. They tried that with Big Show in '00; it didn't work.


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I've imagined they'd do Snitsky/Heidenreich vs. Kane/UT for several weeks now. It just seems so obvious.

Michaels vs. Angle would be a classic.


Smackdown still has another ppv before WrestleMania and I imagine Cena will get his due and the match for the title. Watching Smackdown last night, he absolutely destroyed Kenzo Suzuki. He's too big for the US division and is definitely stepping up. He's easily the biggest thing on either WWE show. He seems destined to end JBL's reign. WM will probably be the place for him to do it. Since Raw headlined last year, this year is Smackdown's turn. JBL/Cena fits the bill nicely.

I think they should set Trish vs. Torrie for the women's belt at WrestleMania and let Torrie take the title to Smackdown for a while. Shake things up a bit, and inject some life into things. From the sounds of it, they need a reason to make themselves attractive to tv stations again.

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What lady wrestlers are on smackdown?

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I dunno. But there ain't a whole lot left on Raw. . .

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That's one.

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Smackdown still has another ppv before WrestleMania and I imagine Cena will get his due and the match for the title.




thats just one of many reasons as to why batista should have won over cena.

most important is the fact that, a match between batista and hhh at mania will "conclude" a year-long storyline in the making, as the two have been building to a match for months now.

furthermore... batista is currently on a meteoric rise. whether or not the fans support him (and by the last few raws and ppvs, they do), the wwe is pushing him right now to be a new ubermonster -- a goldberg, even. a loss for him at the ppv last night would be a lot more "fatal" than a loss for cena in the same situation.

cena is moreso the people's champ than the dominating champ. is he the next rock and austin? quite possibly, yes. but just as with rock and austin, they rose to prominance by defeating more long term goals, rather than the one single big push, as a hogan or goldberg would.

batista is the monster rush that fits here, not cena. for now.


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And, I might add, the Rock never won the Royal Rumble. It wasn't necessary for his character. Same thing with Cena. He doesn't need it right now. He's hugely popular without it.

Batista needs the win more for storyline reasons (and for Raw to have a Rumble winner as well) and to carry out this Evolution angle.

Cena's character can easily go a number of routes towards getting the shot against JBL. He can petition Teddy Long for another chance to earn a title shot, etc. blah blah blah.

i'm tired. and more incoherent by the moment. I've made my point.

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And, I might add, the Rock never won the Royal Rumble. It wasn't necessary for his character. Same thing with Cena. He doesn't need it right now. He's hugely popular without it.






Uh... The Rock DID win the Royal Rumble. In 2000. He tossed out the Big Show to do it.


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He was already a star by that point, though. He didn't need it to launch himself into huge popularity. He did that on his own. It's the same thing with Cena. Cena doesn't need the Rumble win right now. Later, he might. Now, he doesn't. Batista does.

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Y'know who needs the Rumble? Shannon Moore. Why not let him win it? No one would've expect that!

Seriously, that's the problem with the WWE. Without having watched any shows in an ass-long time, I knew that either Bad-Sista or Cena (West Newbury, I discovered on my trip home from Maine two weeks ago, is near the NH border - he's about as much a city boy as Hillbilly Jim) would win. Why not surprise the audience? Because the writers are too lazy to come up with anything for ANY wrestler that might shock or garner interest.


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Well, he hasn't been shy about being from West Newbury. In fact, back when he was a heel, that was part of the gimmick.

As for Batista, I still don't agree with it. Sure he's over, but does he have the staying power of Benoit, Y2J, or Eddie? Or is he gonna be another Brock Lesnar, Billy Gunn, or (God forbid) Mabel?


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I know that he says he's from West Newbury. It just cracks me up how "city" he acts when West Newbury is a tiny li'l town that you can spit across in a decent wind. And that it might as well be Manchester or Concord, NH for how close it is to Boston.

I just thought it was funny when I crossed the MA border from NH and saw a sign for "West Newbury". I'm not pissed or calling him a phony - it just gave me a chuckle.


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I think his character speaks for itself in that aspect, mr. mama. He's a white guy acting like a black guy, after all.

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Yes, my tag-team partner and trusted ally, I know. I'm not criticizing; I just got a chuckle out of finally finding where West Newbury is - I actually thought is was a fake town. Had it not been snowing like a muthafucka, I'd probably have pulled into town, just to see if they do anything to recognize their Native-Son-Gone-Good. But that's a trip for another time.

Getting back on topic - sorry for the unintentional threadjack - I agree that Cena needs the push a lot less than Bat-Man-Tista. I just wish the writers would actually put an effort forth to give someone besides the same four-or-five people in each "brand" a chance to shine. It's lazy, predictable, and unexciting. Why spend money on a product that you already know the outcome of?


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Why spend money on a product that you already know the outcome of?




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Touche, pussycat.

Well-played, indeed.


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but does he have the staying power of Benoit, Y2J, or Eddie? Or is he gonna be another Brock Lesnar, Billy Gunn, or (God forbid) Mabel?



When did Billy or Mabel ever win the Rumble?
And I would hope Batista doesnt have the staying power of Billy Gunn as Gunn was with WWF/WWE for something like twelve years.

Anyway from last nites Smackdown we have been teased with Batista defecting to Smackdown so we have a new twist in the plot.
Now with all the HHH/Batista build up it would be such a mistake to go the SD route & it'd just be a rehash of last years Benoit defection.
But if they did go this route & then decided to swap Cena to Raw he could be the only person to actually benefit.
Raw has the stronger talent roster & beating HHH for the title would have more credibility than beating JBL or Big Show (dont forget Cena has beaten Big Show before so its nothing new).

Also,another point that Grimm made that I will clarify is on the Rock not winning the rumble til long after he was a star,dont forget one of the biggest names in the history has never won it,and its not hurt his career.
The Undertaker has the longest history of anyone on the current roster or probably anyone who's ever been on the roster.
He's held the heavyweight title four times & never lost at Wrestlemania but he has never won the Royal Rumble.
Hasnt exactly damaged his career or popularity has it?

Cena will be big regardless of winning the Rumble.

Also it might be added that most of the big names on the roster have never won the Royal Rumble:
Kurt Angle
Kane
Big Show
JBL
Eddie Guerrero
Undertaker
Chris Jericho

Cena did not need the win to get over,Batista did.........its just a shame this will put that useless turd even more over with the fans!

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but does he have the staying power of Benoit, Y2J, or Eddie? Or is he gonna be another Brock Lesnar, Billy Gunn, or (God forbid) Mabel?



When did Billy or Mabel ever win the Rumble?





I think he has the Rumble confused with the King of the Ring.

Lesnar, Gunn, and Mable are all former King of the Ring winners.

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Correct.
Lesnar won both the Rumble & KOR!

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I was just saying that Vince has often used KOR much like the Rumble.


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