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Life imitates art, and apparently the Trey Parker and Matt Stone have a pretty good understanding of art. The creators of South Park pegged Brokeback Mountain years before seeing the film.
Ang Lee's "Brokeback Mountain", a tale of homosexual love in the mountains of Wyoming, won the Venice International Film Festival's Golden Lion award earlier this week and is fetching a lot of press.
In other words it is an Indie, or Independent film.
Rusty Shackleford pegs this perfectly calling Parker and Stone, modern prophets and claims that "once again proving that everything Eric Cartman ever says is always true."
Well---Cartmen did say, "Independent films are those black and white hippie movies; they're always about gay cowboys eating pudding."
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K...seriously, who watches this shit? I like everything about being gay, but it just doesn't work on film. We have too much of a preconcieved idea of what cinema should be, and gay love stories don't work. It's too akward (even for me...so I can't imagine what breeders go through) to watch, inducing cringing and discomfort.
So who the fuck is this shit made for? It's always low budget, poorly executed shit.
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Anne Hathaway gets naked in this movie, so it can't be that gay.
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Anne Hathaway gets naked in this movie,
I should change the name of this thread to that.
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Anne Hathaway gets naked in this movie, so it can't be that gay.
I'm seeing this.
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This is where I read about Brokeback Mountain. There was also an article on mrskin about it. She's supposedly naked in the movie Havoc as well. I've been waiting for that one for what seems like decades.
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I saw a preview and it just looked funny to see two cowboys embracing each other.
I wonder what G-man thinks.
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He's probably turned on by it.
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I saw a preview...
Yeah...I stand corrected. After watching that preview, the movie actually looks rather good. Not your typical 'gay' tripe.
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Anne Hathaway gets naked in this movie, so it can't be that gay.
The secretary from Beverly Hillibillies?!?!?!!
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Anne Hathaway gets naked in this movie, so it can't be that gay.
The secretary from Beverly Hillibillies?!?!?!!
The one from the Princess Diaries actually.
If it has some good buzz I might rent it. Considering the setting I doubt it's one of those films that feels it needs to depict your average "gay" person. That's where most of them fail.
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'Brokeback' a horse laugh for Nathan Was it an "Emperor's New Clothes" moment for "Brokeback Mountain"?
The cowboy-on-cowboy flick - starring Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal as star-crossed lovers and Michelle Williams and Anne Hathaway as their unlucky wives - has been lavished with awards and critical acclaim, lassoing seven Golden Globe nominations and the Venice Film Festival's top honor, the Golden Lion.
But openly gay stage and screen star Nathan Lane went on the "Today" show Friday and, instead of treating the Ang Lee movie with customary reverence, had a satirical field day at "Brokeback's" expense.
"I wish I could quit you," twanged Lane - who was on the show ostensibly to promote "The Producers" - mocking Gyllenhaal's cowboy confession to his bunkmate.
"It's really when [Ledger] said, 'This thing gets hold of us the wrong time, the wrong place, we're dead,' " Lane recalled as Katie Couric and "Today" crew members giggled. "I thought, 'What do you mean, like the A&P? You're in the middle of nowhere! Get a ranch with the guy! Stop torturing these two poor women and get a room! What's the problem?' "
Flacks for Focus Features didn't return phone calls, and a publicist for "Brokeback" screenwriter Larry McMurtry declined comment.
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Anne Hathaway gets naked in this movie, so it can't be that gay.
Michelle Williams too.
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Anne Hathaway gets naked in this movie, so it can't be that gay.
Michelle Williams too.
we need pictures.
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Ok, I will probably see this on DVD just for hathaway nudity, but anyway....
It just seems pretentious to have 2 gay cowboys..gay, married cowboys..find and profess their love for one another. So Lee takes the most macho profession he can find, cowboys, and he gays them. Then, of course, he expects awards. That is so stupid and pretentious.
I'm sure this probably came from a novel somewhere, and if so then the novel is dumb. I'm sure it happens and has happened--like any various homosexual situation, but really...
Why can't they come up with something original? How about a president of the US that is married, and then comes out that he is gay after he's in office..now that would sell...
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How about a messageboard moderator who comes out that he is gay...and gets banned for it?
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Anne Hathaway gets naked in this movie, so it can't be that gay.
She's naked and fucks in Havoc. But good luck stomaching that movie... it sucks something awful. And I don't mean LLance's dick.
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Ok, I will probably see this on DVD just for hathaway nudity, but anyway....
It just seems pretentious to have 2 gay cowboys..gay, married cowboys..find and profess their love for one another.
For fuck's sake, dude, it's fiction.
How pretentious is it to have some guy named Skywalker become a disciple of the Force and go on space adventures??
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The story was there before Ang Lee.
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I'm sure this probably came from a novel somewhere, and if so then the novel is dumb.
Yeah, let's criticize it before we read it, like that's intelligent.
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I'm sure it happens and has happened--like any various homosexual situation, but really...
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OK, Ok..I was a little rash, but I still don't like the idea. But The novel descriptions sound decent. I stand corrected.
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Thanks for relenting.
I didn't quite understand what your uproar was about. Gay men can't be cowboys? There never were any gay cowboys or ranch hands? Just like there never were any gay football players? Ooops, that myth died...
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No, I was never saying that. It just seemed in your face to the average american, and to people who are bitching and moaning about gay marriage--it seems a little too soon to be making gay themed movies about an american myth, a step back rather than a step forward. That was all. I could be very wrong, but I think mainstream americans would balk at seeing it. I think I was drunk during the original post.
hey, i hope I'm wrong.
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No, I was never saying that. It just seemed in your face to the average american
I don't see how because I don't see that there are armed guards dragging people to cinemas to watch it. It may be getting some news coverage, but so? Has network TV showed any of the love/sex scenes?
Do you think that GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER was too "in your face" to the average American as well?
Hm?
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It isn't in your face to me. I'm putting myself in the shoes of the average american is all. People who don't like gay pride parades, people who hate the idea of gay marriage, etc.
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So art is supposed to cater only to those "average Americans"?
Fuck that.
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it seems a little too soon to be making gay themed movies about an american myth, a step back rather than a step forward. That was all.
Haven't we broken through the idea that gays don't/shouldn't encroach on any American Myths with the fact that Rock Hudson was gay? I think that ship as sailed, P.I.
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So?
Frankly, I don't know how many mainstream Americans will see it anyway since it doesn't appear to be getting "multiplex" release. In Columbus, one theater will be screening it, the Drexel Gateway, which is a new theater across from Ohio State on High St. To my knowledge, no other theater in town will be showing it.
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Dammnit I thought I just posted. anyway. I think that art films can get to the cineplex's just like many indy films already do. Word of mouth is what it is about, and a willingness of the owners/vendors to show them. I don't think art has to be relegated to little hidden away galleries it can go to museums after all.
Ang Lee has a known name. It could be widely accepted I just think Alaskan fishermen would do better than cowboys ..I dunno. I'm outta material, and my original post that never appeared was more cohesive.
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Maybe its me, but if anything is indicative of this movie being "in our face," its the massive hype over the movie.
Its almost as if we're expected to think that this particular movie, not "Walk the Line," not "Crash," not "Match Point," not "Good Night and Good Luck" is the best movie of the year simply BECAUSE its a "gay movie."
I haven't seen this movie. And it may be good. But there does seem to be an undercurrent of hype coming out of Hollywood that the ONLY reason you might not like this movie better than, say, "Crash" is because you're a homophobe.
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It isn't in your face to me. I'm putting myself in the shoes of the average american is all. People who don't like gay pride parades, people who hate the idea of gay marriage, etc.
Pariah, the average American. A thought so horrifying you'll need a second mattress.
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Ang Lee has a known name. It could be widely accepted I just think Alaskan fishermen would do better than cowboys ..I dunno. I'm outta material, and my original post that never appeared was more cohesive.
It's not like some arthouse film exec woke up one night and decided to make another gay soapbox movie. This isn't Judd Winick. Edna Annie Proulx wrote the story years ago. She lives in Wyoming. Wyoming has a lot of cowboys. Wyoming is also home to a fairly significant anti-homosexual presence(remember the Matt Shepard murder?), like a lot of underpopulated plains states. That's it.
I don't think I'll see it in theatres, since I'm not big on love stories(gay or otherwise), but the only people I can see being threatened by this are, well, homophobes. If it does challenge a lot of modern movie conventions, then more power to it. I like films like that.
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I will state that there are records of homosexuality in the Old West. It's not talked about much, but then, it's only relatively recently that homosexuality was discussed at length at all.
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Actually, that was from one of the stories in The Big Book of The Weird Wild West, from DC's Paradox Press.
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Brokeback Burnout? Cowboys Collapsing?You wouldn’t know it from all the hype and the endless critics’ awards. But Ang Lee’s "Brokeback Mountain" may be suffering a little burnout in its third week of release.
Indeed, "Brokeback"—-aka the Gay Cowboy movie—-has seen declines at the box office every day this week after a huge premiere and subsequent run in gay-concentrated neighborhoods.
But now it may be that reality is setting in, and reality bites, as we all know. On Monday, "Brokeback" was 51 percent off from Sunday. On Tuesday, it was down 9.1 percent from Monday. By Wednesday, it was off another 7.6 percent. All in all, it dropped to No. 10 on its 13th day out.
Today, "Brokeback" nearly doubles its number of theaters to 217, but this may be a real litmus test. There is hardly a straight male in the U.S. who will see this movie voluntarily. No matter how well made it is—-and it is very well crafted by a hugely talented group of people—-it’s hard to imagine a suburban wife coaxing hubby to the Cineplex on Saturday night to see two men consummate their passion.
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maybe they should have concentrated on promoting it as a well-made movie first, and about gay cowboys second.
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