RKMBs Forums .::Robegories::. Sports and Wrestling Chris Benoit and family found dead

...Nixon, Liddy and thier cohorts tried steal an election...

Again, you're off topic, but do really think that the fact that anyone, including Liddy, was convicted and served a prison sentence somehow makes someone else--somehow who murdered his family--more sympathetic?

no, but it does make you a hypocrite. please feel free to go fuck yourself.

Like I said, people who murder defenseless kids tend to piss me off.

Unless the kids are brown and live in the sand, of course.

When Bobby J Cutts was arrested and charged with the murder of Jessie Davis and her unborn child few observers were surprised. Cutts now sits in prison and is charged with two counts of murder. A judge in Canton yesterday ordered him held on a $5 million bond. Davis was missing for about a week before her body was found in a northeast Ohio park on Saturday, still carrying the baby girl she was due to deliver July Third.

Different....not the same.

...stop being blinded by politics.

The disturbing thing is he may have been injecting them into his son, Daniel which if true is deplorable.

it isn't your place to say 'Hey, Benoit took steroids and murdered his wife and child! He's an evil little shit!'. The only person with that right is God....

I have no idea what Benoit's politics were. In fact, the only people trying to bring politics in are the ones, like you, who seem to think that attacking Bush or Nixon somehow excuses Benoit's crimes.

We're not saying that at all.

We are saying that you yourself have a history of being in the side of some very unsavory characters yourself. Therefore you should show better discretion before condemning us.

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I can't believe you guys missed this...

Credit: PWInsider.com

Houston, Texas' KHOU interviewed World Wrestling Entertainment's King Booker regarding the Benoit family tragedy today at Booker's wrestling school. Booker said it was something "the wrestling family, the wrestling world" would never suspect would happen and it's the first time something of this nature has happened in the business.

Booker noted that he knew Benoit personally (a feud for the WCW TV title against Benoit put Booker on the map as a singles star) and he never saw that side of Benoit. He said that he knew Benoit's wife and all of his children and what happened was completely "out of the norm and unexplainable."

He noted that he wrestled Benoit 75-100 times and they had spoken just a few weeks ago for about 30 minutes about the wrestling business and never saw that side of him. "We're all tired at certain points, we work a lot of hours, but I never saw this side of Chris. I've never seen Chris mad. I've never seen Chris angry. He was always the guy with a lot of positive energy, always pushing the guys."

Booker told the story of a student that came to his school to be trained, arriving from Illinois with $800 in his pocket with "no way to go back" who carried a photo of Benoit and Eddie Guerrero as he was inspired by them to get into the business. "That was just the type of person he was, always encouraging people. He didn't even know this guy, but that's the type of person he was."

When the idea of "roid rage" was brought up, Booker remarked, "The media is going to put a spin on it, you know. We know that. WWE knows that. Did the guy last week who murders his wife and kid last week have any form of roid rage? He was a cop. This happens in any form of life. I feel like the human life is a delicate piece of equipment and everyone has their breaking point. We don't know what his breaking point was. You don't know what my point is, I don't know what your point is. We're all human. I just think it was a huge malfunction and whatever it was, we may never know. It's not for us to know. It's out of our hands and with God now."

Booker said the wrestling industry is a huge family and he's cried and wanted to pull his hair out over this. He said he loved Chris and he is mad to see him "go out like this. I'm pissed at him in certain ways. I wish I could just hold him for a second, but it's out of our hands. I'll be there at the funeral and tell him goodbye and hopefully see him on the other side. Hopefully, I'll find out what happened one day."

If I wanted to turn this thread into a joke I'd have mentioned that this is one hell of a heel turn.

I have no idea what Benoit's politics were. In fact, the only people trying to bring politics in are the ones, like you, who seem to think that attacking Bush or Nixon somehow excuses Benoit's crimes.

We're not saying that at all.

We are saying that you yourself have a history of being on the side of some very unsavory characters yourself. Therefore you should show better discretion before condemning us.

"The media is going to put a spin on it, you know. We know that. WWE knows that. Did the guy last week who murders his wife and kid last week have any form of roid rage? He was a cop. This happens in any form of life. I feel like the human life is a delicate piece of equipment and everyone has their breaking point. We don't know what his breaking point was. You don't know what my point is, I don't know what your point is. We're all human. I just think it was a huge malfunction and whatever it was, we may never know. It's not for us to know. It's out of our hands and with God now."

Booker said the wrestling industry is a huge family and he's cried and wanted to pull his hair out over this. He said he loved Chris and he is mad to see him "go out like this. I'm pissed at him in certain ways. I wish I could just hold him for a second, but it's out of our hands. I'll be there at the funeral and tell him goodbye and hopefully see him on the other side. Hopefully, I'll find out what happened one day."

Actually, I've come here to condemn Benoit. But for some reason you guys all reacted like it was a personal attack on each of YOU. From the first time I observed that it looked like he killed his family, the ad hominem attacks began. First Snarf attacked the source I posted, and tried to imply (inaccurately) that only FOX was reporting he murdered his family. Then came this silly "I don't agree with your politics, or your choice of political figures, so you can't have an opinion" argument. In between, there's been a lot continued justification for defending this guy, even as the evidence continues to mount against him and almost zero...zero...sympathy for a little boy and an innocent woman who never deserved this. Its like you're so eager to prove ME wrong that you're losing track of what's right and wrong here.

Do I think you're bad guys? No. I think you're mostly decent people. And that's why I'm disappointed that you are getting so bent out of shape over this fucker.

He was a good wrestler. You thought he was a good man. He wasn't. Its sad, but mostly for his wife and kid. End of story.

im trying to gauge how i feel on this topic. gman comes across all cunty, of course, but i don't necessarily disagree with his point. if this wasn't benoit, and it was some random guy, or low-level unknown wrestler, there'd be no such message board defense for him.

maybe thats wrong to the lil guy because everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt, or to not be judged by a single/final action. or, maybe its wrong because people are giving benoit too much credit for, bare bones, being a murderer.

its sorta like my favorite political activist chris rock commented about OJ. his trial wasn't about race, it was about fame. if OJ was a simple city bus driver, he'd be "orenthal, the murdering bus driver" in jail. cut and dry, no pun intended.

the issue here is that its difficult to associate benoit with this type of heinous act. there are 10 or so other people in his very field that some sorta crime would seem almost typical (austin, hall, savage, etc). but benoit seemed so very unlikely. the puzzle pieces, when presented with them, just don't seem to fit.

but the truth is, they do. and if things turn out to even resemble what the current story says... thats awful.

... you're a fucking piece of shit and as I said before: feel free to go and fuck yourself.

You know...the funny thing is that I really can't get too worked up about a guy calling me 'a piece of shit' on the same thread where he keeps trying to justify all this love for a man who snuffed out his family.