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American Spectator:
  • some Missouri sheriffs, prosecutors and law-enforcement officials have formed "Obama Truth Squads" charged with going after anyone who makes false or misleading claims about their candidate. Intended or not, the report gave the distinct impression that these elected officials -- including prosecutors from St. Louis, Dunklin, Lafayette, Cass, Clay, Ripley, Audrain and Jackson counties -- were going to "hold accountable" Obama critics who "violate ethics laws," but do nothing about McCain's opponents who do the same. Speaking as members of the Obama Truth Squad, the two top prosecutors said "they plan to respond immediately to any ads or statements that might violate Missouri ethics laws."

    THIS IS NOT THE first time the Obama camp has used similar tactics to try to silence the opposition. The campaign has twice called for the Justice Department to prosecute the American Issues Project for allegedly violating the Federal Election Campaign Act after it ran attack ads linking Obama to the 1970s domestic terrorist William Ayers. AIP's lawyers, for their part, say their group is a "qualified non-profit corporation" and thus within its legal rights. It is perhaps no coincidence that AIP's Martin is based in St. Louis.

    It's not just Republicans that have to fear for the First Amendment in the era of Obama. As the Politico reports:

    It's worth noting that this isn't the first time [Obama general counsel Bob] Bauer has called for criminal investigations and prosecutions into the donors to independent groups critical of Obama, including one supporting John Edwards and another supporting Hillary Rodham Clinton. His words did have the effect of scaring their donors and consultants, but haven't yet appeared to result in any prosecution.

    Meanwhile Missouri, which has voted for every presidential winner since 1960, remains too close to call. The question remains whether the Truth Squad's tactic of enlisting the mainstream media to publicize its goals worked to silence Obama critics, or whether it reinforced the idea that a Obama presidency would be a disaster for free speech.


I figure we'll need a separate thread to discuss all the efforts of Glorious Leader Obama to prosecute and silence his critics in the coming years...at least until this site gets shut down.

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Heh... on myspace a year ago I saw an obama community thing and joined for the hell of it one day. At the time I had my animated Hitler avatar. The NEXT day the thing was completely shut down by request of Obama's Campaign because they wanted to only have an official one.

Coincidence? Maybe. But still funny.


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Investor's Business Daily:
  • Conservative-friendly media better get ready. Should Barack Obama win the presidency and the Democrats control Congress, as now seems likely, they will launch a full-scale war to drive critics — especially on political talk radio — right out of legitimate public debate.

    A Democrat-controlled Washington will use sweeping new rules to shush conservative political speech. For starters, expect a real push to bring back the Fairness Doctrine.

    Obama, like congressional Democrats, also wants to regulate the Internet, the only other medium in which the right does well, via its influential bloggers.

    Not coincidentally, hampering the alternative media with new regulations would leave the liberal mainstream press, which still enjoys full First Amendment protections, comparatively empowered.

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G-Man, every time you post, because of the graemlin in your sig, my mind reads it as you laughing at whatever you posted. No matter how NOT entertainingly humerus it may be.

Just sos we're clear.


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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
Investor's Business Daily:
  • Conservative-friendly media better get ready. Should Barack Obama win the presidency and the Democrats control Congress, as now seems likely, they will launch a full-scale war to drive critics — especially on political talk radio — right out of legitimate public debate.

    A Democrat-controlled Washington will use sweeping new rules to shush conservative political speech. For starters, expect a real push to bring back the Fairness Doctrine.

    Obama, like congressional Democrats, also wants to regulate the Internet, the only other medium in which the right does well, via its influential bloggers.

    Not coincidentally, hampering the alternative media with new regulations would leave the liberal mainstream press, which still enjoys full First Amendment protections, comparatively empowered.


Who the fuck sourced this? It's long been a matter of conventional wisdom that the right sucks horribly with using the Internet to drive their message and generate funds for their candidates. The left on the other hand has been wildly successful at driving the message ahead of the mainstream media and even making them focus their attention on things they highlight or scoop them on.

Plus you need only look at Obamas fund raising VS McCain's or even MoveOn.Org's efforts at whatever issue they focus on to see how the Democrats have a HUGE advantage as far as generating cash online goes.

The only person from the right that can even compare is Matt Drudge.

Now AM radio, unarguably has been a HUGE success for the right wing. To the detriment of this country and it's political dialouge and yes, IMO to the Republican Party itself.

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 Originally Posted By: Uschi
G-Man, every time you post, because of the graemlin in your sig, my mind reads it as you laughing at whatever you posted. No matter how NOT entertainingly humerus it may be.

Just sos we're clear.
me too!

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Why are people at Obama rallies doing a Hitler Salute?


Obama's sign of Progress



Obama's followers demonstrate the sign-of-progress salute



“Hitler’s hands as he speaks of the unity of the National Socialist and socialist ideas.”


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I assumed they were signaling whomod for the circle jerk after party.

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
<p>Why are people at Obama rallies doing a Hitler Salute?<br />
<br /><img src="http://texasdarlin.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/obama-sign-of-progress.jpg?w=300" /><br />Obama's sign of Progress<br />
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<br /><img src="http://texasdarlin.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/obamasaluterally.jpg?w=300" /><br />Obama's followers demonstrate the sign-of-progress salute<br />
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<br /><img src="http://texasdarlin.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/hitlersalute.jpg?w=300" /><br />“Hitler’s hands as he speaks of the unity of the National Socialist and socialist ideas.”<br clear="all" /></p>




I'm gonna cock punch anyone I see doing that.


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Lee sheriff under federal investigation for stumping in uniform
  • BONITA SPRINGS — Lee County Sheriff Mike Scott’s now infamous appearance at Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin’s public rally has caught the attention of federal officials. Scott is under federal investigation for wearing his uniform during the campaign stump, a spokesman for the Office of Special Counsel said on Tuesday.

    Anthony Guglielmi, spokesman for the OSC, said, “We are launching a formal investigation into Sheriff Scott today on the basis of possible violation of Hatch Act.”

    The Hatch Act of 1939 regulates how certain government employees use their official authority in their private lives. Guglielmi said the Sheriff’s Office would fall under the law’s provision if it receives federal funding, a near certainty.

    Scott potentially used his “official authority” to influence the outcome of an election, Guglielmi said. He could also face penalties for wearing his uniform or even driving his cruiser to the event.

    Scott on Tuesday said he hadn’t received official notice of the investigation, but if true, he expects to be exonerated.


This is harassment from Obama pure and simple.

I have a fair amount of experience reviewing Hatch Act cases. The Hatch Act in this circumstance exempts elected officials and only applies to appointed officers. The reason is obvious: if people who's offices received federal funding were prohibited from trying to influence elections no one could run for their own office or endorse other candidates, including the President and Congress.

Sheriffs are elected. Therefore, the investigation will go nowhere.

The only possible reason for this investigation is to threaten and intimidate people who criticize "the One."

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whomod has started a whole thread, parroting the leftist talking point that criticism of Obama is racist.

Obama is setting himself up as a dictator. He has his supporters trying to silence all criticism. Can you imagine what it will be like if he elected?

In fact, as demonstrated by whomod's thread, even daring to run against "Glorious Leader Obama" will be deemed "hate speech."

Will there even be an election in four years?

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Some Futurists hold that sometime prior to the expected return of Jesus, there will be a period of "great tribulation"[40] during which the Antichrist (Barack Hussein Obama), indwelt and controlled by Satan, will attempt to win supporters with false peace, supernatural signs. He will silence all that defy him by refusing to "receive his mark" on their right hands or forehead. This "mark" will be required to legally partake in the end-time economic system.[41] Some Futurists believe that the Antichrist will be assassinated half way through the Tribulation, being revived and indwelt by Satan. The Antichrist will continue on for three and a half years following this "deadly wound".[42]

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the sign of progress looks like a midget giving a handjob

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 Originally Posted By: PJP
Some Futurists hold that sometime prior to the expected return of Jesus, there will be a period of "great tribulation"[40] during which the Antichrist (Barack Hussein Obama), indwelt and controlled by Satan, will attempt to win supporters with false peace, supernatural signs. He will silence all that defy him by refusing to "receive his mark" on their right hands or forehead. This "mark" will be required to legally partake in the end-time economic system.[41] Some Futurists believe that the Antichrist will be assassinated half way through the Tribulation, being revived and indwelt by Satan. The Antichrist will continue on for three and a half years following this "deadly wound".[42]




omg 42


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The coming liberal thugocracy:
  • Once upon a time, liberals prided themselves, with considerable reason, as the staunchest defenders of free speech. Union organizers in the 1930s and 1940s made the case that they should have access to employees to speak freely to them, and union leaders like George Meany and Walter Reuther were ardent defenders of the First Amendment.

    Today's liberals seem to be taking their marching orders from other quarters. Specifically, from the college and university campuses where administrators, armed with speech codes, have for years been disciplining and subjecting to sensitivity training any students who dare to utter thoughts that liberals find offensive. The campuses that once prided themselves as zones of free expression are now the least free part of our society.

    Obama supporters who found the campuses congenial and Mr. Obama himself, who has chosen to live all his adult life in university communities, seem to find it entirely natural to suppress speech they don't like and seem utterly oblivious to claims this violates the letter and spirit of the First Amendment. In this campaign, we have seen the coming of the Obama thugocracy, suppressing free speech, and we may see its flourishing in the four or eight years ahead.

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
whomodopov has started a whole thread, parroting the leftist talking point that kritikism of Obama is rakist.

Obama is setting himself up as a diktator. He has his supporters trying to silence all kritikism. Kan you imagine what it will be like if he elekted?

In fakt, as demonstrated by whomodopov's thread, even daring to run against "Glorious Leader Obama" will be deemed "hate speekh."

Will there even be an elektion in four years?

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 Originally Posted By: THE Bastard
In recent months, conservatives have sounded increasingly retro with their attempts to paint Obama as a socialist or communist. In some ways, this accusation is typical far-right boilerplate. Obama certainly isn't the first Democrat running for president to be accused of communist sympathies. And as usual, the accusations are rarely linked to policy specifics. But the difference with Obama is that, in the eyes of the right, it's not just his political affiliation that implicates him as a socialist. It's his ethnic background.

The hysterical accusations of socialism from conservatives echo similar accusations leveled at black leaders in the past, as though the quest for racial parity were simply a left-wing plot...


This is another good example of the coming chill on free speech under Glorious Leader Obama. Now, you can't even criticize his economic policies without being called a "racist."

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From the Daily Kos:
  • we need to use major authoritarian measures against wingnuts and theocrats to save this country. That in particular includes deprogramming institutions and a Gitmo like camp to deal with the worst wingnuts. These people should be removed from general society and need to be shut up.

    I have believed this for years, but the behavior of the wingnuts at the McCain and Palin rallies further underscores the need to take harsh action against these people. Lincoln and FDR had to bend the Constitution at times, and I hope Obama has the guts to do so too to deal with these third rate creatures.

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honestly, as much as people like to say the republicans and the democrat party are two sides of the same coin, there really is a clash of worldviews going on, and to some extent it's represented in the race going on right now. but while the current race might determine how taxpayers' money gets spent, the conflict between two diametrically opposing worldviews is rarely resolved in an election, and if anything the outcome of the presidential race will merely fuel the fires. historically, this sort of tug-of-war has come to blows more times than not, and it wouldn't surprise me if that happens here before this is all over with. ultimately, it's up to everyone to differentiate what for them constitutes a negotiable political stance and what constitutes a personal conviction worth fighting for. few conflicts are without casualties or for that matter without collateral damage, and if things keep going the way they are we'll all be faced with some hard choices eventually.


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Kansas City Star:
  • A Kansas City lawyer and supporter of Barack Obama for president has filed suit in federal court, alleging that the Republican ticket has incited violence against the Democratic nominee.

    In her suit against Sen. John McCain, Gov. Sarah Palin and campaign manager Rick Davis, Mary Kay Green said she has been injured by their campaign tactics and suffers “terror of the heart, anxiety and grave fear” for Obama’s life


Simply a sign of things to come under the Obama regime.

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they should immediately apologize to the glorious leader.

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I wonder: do you think McCain and Palin will be allowed to remain in the US, or will they have to live in exile under the Obama regime?

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It's not just free speech that's being tossed. Now, a professor from Harvard Business School proposed today — seriously — that Bush and Cheney should resign immediately after the election so Obama/Biden can take the throne:

Assume that Barack Obama wins the election, as polls show is increasingly likely. The following day, Vice President Cheney should be prevailed upon to resign. Using his powers to designate a successor under the 25th Amendment, President Bush should then appoint, and Congress should confirm, Obama as vice president (just as Richard Nixon appointed Gerald Ford vice president in 1973 when Spiro Agnew resigned). Bush himself should then resign, elevating Obama to the presidency - as Ford became president when Nixon resigned. Obama should then appoint Joe Biden as vice president.

With Congress's confirmation of Biden, the new administration would be in place, on the job, and ready to tackle the economic crisis - in November, not January. (The electoral college's official ratification of the election results in December would merely rubber-stamp the transition.)

The Constitution — it's so passé for the elite Obama crowd.


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Concentration camps.


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Did anyone else notice Obama just said he could handle criticism "for the next three weeks"?

He's practically admitting that, once he gets in, his critics are toast.

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Now, the Obamatarians are targeting Joe the plumber, falsely claiming that he lacked the necessary plumbing licenses:
  • This is the way our opponents operate now. Destroy anyone who stands in your way. Humiliate them. Make sure that anyone else who ever wants to skeptically question Barack Obama knows that every last bit of their dirty laundry will be aired for all the world to see. Bristol Palin, Trig Palin, — hey, it's all fair game. They've got to make an example of them. Show them that this sort of dangerous speech won't be allowed in the New America.


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Of course the plumbing license is a back door tax, all you need is to pay the fee.

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I don't know how it is in Ohio, but pretty much elsewhere you don't need a license to be a plumber. You need a license to be a contractor, which would be someone who owns a plumbing business; but since Joe hasn't bought the business yet, he shouldn't need one.


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It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

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 Originally Posted By: britneyspearsatemyshorts
... the plumbing license is a back door tax...


"Back door" would be Promod's favorite kind of tax.

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
 Originally Posted By: britneyspearsatemyshorts
... the plumbing license is a back door tax...


"Back door" would be Promod's favorite kind of tax.


\:lol\: I love how easy it is to get under your skin these days, G. All I have to do is point out your methods of lying and denial, and you twist like crazy. For example, when you bring me up out of the blue in a thread I'm not participating in, in desperate hopes of working up some "bit" for you and basams to back-and-forth on...all the while creating predictably childish insults towards me...I know without a doubt that I have not only broken you (a loooong time ago, old man), but that I have "won". Thanks for that! \:lol\:

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 Originally Posted By: Lucius Prometheus Vorenus

\:lol\: I love how easy it is to get under your skin these days, G. All I have to do is point out your methods of lying and denial, and you twist like crazy. For example, when you bring me up out of the blue in a thread I'm not participating in, in desperate hopes of working up some "bit" for you and basams to back-and-forth on...all the while creating predictably childish insults towards me...I know without a doubt that I have not only broken you (a loooong time ago, old man), but that I have "won". Thanks for that! \:lol\:


The funny thing is: I could post that quote without attribution, ask the board to guess who wrote it and, I'd bet, 9/10ths of the posters here would guess whomod.

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