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MEM, I will change my avatar to the Muhhammed bomb for the month of May and call on you and the rest of the board to join me in doing so.
Rob, giving you a head's up you might want to go into hiding that month.
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I would have to think about doing something like that. Not to pick on you G-man but your real id isn't known so whatever you post has less personal consequences than what somebody like Rob does.
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Way to take a stand, faggot.
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I wouldn't really be taking a stand but doing something that might cause trouble for Rob.
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So you're saying you should only stand up for yourself if someone else is doing it and it can't be traced back to you?
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Sure, MEM, you're not doing it out of concern for Rob. Surreee....
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Nope, wasn't saying that at all Rex.
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I wouldn't really be taking a stand (changing his avatar to Mohammed) The Raw Story article you cited wanted people to take a stand against what happened to South Park by drawing and posting pictures of Mohammed to a public website. I said that I'd support it by posting a picture of Mohammed as my avatar at this website. I urged you to do the same thing. Both Facebook and RKMB allow psuedonymous posting So why is the former taking a stand and not the latter?
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Sure, MEM, you're not doing it out of concern for Rob. Surreee.... You don't think that's a valid point? You hide your real id and that does make a difference. You're not actually taking much of a stand so much as Rob would be.
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I've posted the Mohammed cartoons here many times over the years, including on the portal page. Many of us have been vocal critics of Islam and been very supportive of the cartoonists.
If Rob was going to be a target by our postings he'd have been one long ago.
No, it's pretty obvious your reluctance to stand against censorship is about protecting your own ass, not Rob's.
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How so? If that was really a concern on my part I would hide my real id like you do.
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I've posted the Mohammed cartoons here many times over the years, including on the portal page. Many of us have been vocal critics of Islam and been very supportive of the cartoonists.
If Rob was going to be a target by our postings he'd have been one long ago.
No, it's pretty obvious your reluctance to stand against censorship is about protecting your own ass, not Rob's. How so? If that was really a concern on my part I would hide my real id ... If you're not concerned about protecting yourself, given that Rob's board already has the Mohammed pictures without retailiation, you have no reason not to change your avatar.
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So then you should post them under your real id if there's no danger. If you have to hide your id than you must think there is some danger.
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I don't post anything under my real name. Are you claiming that I'm afraid of, for example, violent attacks from Joe Quesada because I don't use my real name when I call him the Donkeyfucker and write about the sad state of affairs at Marvel comics?
You're happy to use your real name EXCEPT when it comes to opposing Islamic censorship. Case closed.
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G-man if there isn't any danger, go ahead and post under your real name. Just because you hide all the time isn't a valid rational that you don't fear any reprisals from your posts.
However you want to spin it, you're not taking any risk. How much respect do you think that deserves?
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You're not even willing to do under your fake name. That's cowardly.
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You're not even willing to do under your fake name. That's cowardly. It's not really a risk on my part but potentially it could be for Rob. If you think it's cowardly to post under an alias then how do you defend your cowardice?
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If you think it's cowardly to post under an alias.... I never said it was cowardly. Please don't put words in my mouth. My point was that you can't even be bothered to stand up for freedom under an alias and you're attacking others who will. That's strange logic. It's not really a risk on my part but potentially it could be for Rob. If Rob is worried, he has my permission to remove the avatar once I post it. I'm sure you'll give him the same permission. Therefore, there's nothing stopping you from changing your avatar. So....how about it? Will you change your avatar to fight Islamic censorship?
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If you think it's cowardly to post under an alias.... I never said it was cowardly. Please don't put words in my mouth. My point was that you can't even be bothered to stand up for freedom under an alias and you're attacking others who will. That's strange logic. It's not really a risk on my part but potentially it could be for Rob. If Rob is worried, he has my permission to remove the avatar once I post it. I'm sure you'll give him the same permission. Therefore, there's nothing stopping you from changing your avatar. So....how about it? Will you change your avatar to fight Islamic censorship? Why not just post them under your real name? Since you say there is no risk then let's see that principled stand of yours. Otherwise it's really Rob that's taking the risk on your behalf and making the stand, not you.
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Okay. So you're afraid to change your avatar. Got it.
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OK so you'll keep hiding and let Rob take the risk. Got it.
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Why not just post them under your real name? Since you say there is no risk then let's see that principled stand of yours. Otherwise it's really Rob that's taking the risk on your behalf and making the stand, not you. I love how you constantly speak on Rob's behalf without actually referring to how he feels on the matter just so you can avoid addressing the point on how much of a disingenuous alarmist you are. This was never about risk for anyone but yourself and your own excuses. Or do you honestly believe your acting in Rob's best interest?
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He's a liberal, he is acting in everyone's best interest.
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Why not just post them under your real name? Since you say there is no risk then let's see that principled stand of yours. Otherwise it's really Rob that's taking the risk on your behalf and making the stand, not you. I love how you constantly speak on Rob's behalf without actually referring to how he feels on the matter just so you can avoid addressing the point on how much of a disingenuous alarmist you are. This was never about risk for anyone but yourself and your own excuses. Or do you honestly believe your acting in Rob's best interest? I didn't speak on Rob's behalf. I didn't suggest one way or the other as to how Rob feels about it. G-man however made the argument that there wasn't any risk. He of course hides who he is. The obvious point is that there is risk even not taking into account death threats from religous fanatics.
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I didn't speak on Rob's behalf. I didn't suggest one way or the other as to how Rob feels about it. Oh. Okay... G-man however made the argument that there wasn't any risk. He of course hides who he is. The obvious point is that there is risk even not taking into account death threats from religous fanatics. ...My mistake. You were just making the issue about G-Man again. You're making a faux distinction. Just because you haven't stated how Rob himself feels on the matter doesn't mean you aren't trying to use him as an excuse to mediate between his position and the rest of the board's. As such, you're using that opportunity to make a disingenuous assertion about Rob just to disagree with G-man.
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What was the disingenuous assertion? You're not really making much sense Pariah.
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....is that a lit fuse on his head? How very appropriate... 
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Um... Pro, that's the Dutch cartoon that started the shitstorm several years ago. Not really new to the net, or these boards.
Also, would everyone else stop fucking up this thread. G-man and MEM, you guys can take your sword fight back to the politics forum. And take your bastard child Pariah with you.
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G-man and MEM, you guys can take your sword fight back to the politics forum. And take your bastard child Pariah with you.  
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Creators of 'Everybody Draw Muhammad Day' drop gag after everybody gets angry- In declaring May 20th to be "Everybody Draw Muhammad Day," Seattle artist Molly Norris created a poster-like cartoon showing many objects -- from a cup of coffee to a box of pasta to a tomato -- all claiming to be the likeness of Muhammad.
Such depictions are radioactive as many Muslims believe that Islamic teachings forbid showing images of Muhammad.
"I am Mohammed and I taste good," says the pasta box in the cartoon. On top of the cartoon images (but no longer on her website) was an announcement explaining the rationale behind the event.
"In light of the recent veiled (ha!) threats aimed at the creators of the....
...television show South Park (for depicting Mohammed in a bear suit) by bloggers on Revolution Muslim's website, we hereby deemed May 20, 2010 as the first annual "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day," the original artwork reads.
On Friday, Norris told a radio talk show host in Seattle that she came up with the idea because "as a cartoonist, I just felt so much passion about what had happened..." noting that "it's a cartoonist's job to be non-PC."
That passion, it appears, has lessened. And fast.
Her stark website today reads: ""I am NOT involved in "Everybody Draw Mohammd [sic] Day!"
"I made a cartoon that went viral and I am not going with it. Many other folks have used my cartoon to start sites, etc. Please go to them as I am a private person who draws stuff," she writes.
It went viral, however, because she was the one who passed it around. Sending it to people like Dan Savage, a popular Seattle-based blogger and nationally syndicated sex advice columnist.
Once it became a national story she reeled back, asking Savage -- in an email he provided to The Ticket -- if he would "be kind enough to switch out my poster" with another one -- a much tamer version which has no images attributed to Muhammad.
"I am sort of freaked out about my name/image being all over the place," her e-mail reads.
He didn't change it, nor did he post the tamer version. Besides, after Savage posted it, many other sites picked it up including The Atlantic and Reason.
When asked about her change of heart, Norris told The Ticket that she didn't intend for the cartoon "to go viral."
Then why did she send the cartoon to the media in the first place? "Because I'm an idiot," Norris replied.
"This particular cartoon of a 'poster' seems to have struck a gigantic nerve, something I was totally unprepared for," she said.
She doesn't appear to be alone. The creator of a Facebook page dedicated to the day has bowed out as well. Jon Wellington told the Washington Post (before abandoning ship) that he created the page because he "loved [Norris's] creative approach to the whole thing -- whimsical and nonjudgmental."
While he was still associated with his own event he said: "To me, this is all about freedom of expression and tolerance of other viewpoints, so I hope you'll help make this a sandbox that anyone can play in, if they want. I don't think it'd be right under the circumstances for me (or anyone) to censor inflammatory posts *ahem*, but let's be welcoming and inclusive, mmkay?"
Apparently the posts weren't "welcoming" enough, as on Sunday morning he announced his departure from the cause. "I am aghast that so many people are posting deeply offensive pictures of the Prophet," he writes. "Y'all go ahead if that's your bag, but count me out."
Did he think people were going to post flattering images?
That's what Facebook user Douglas Armstrong wondered too. "You created an event inviting people to submit pictures of Mohammed," Armstrong wrote. "And apparently you're so new to the Internet that you didn't foresee what would happen?"
Although Wellington had abandoned his cause, he apparently was sticking around to answer questions. To Armstrong's question, Wellington responded: "I guess I had more faith in human nature than was warranted."
Another user, Paul St. George, had little patience for Wellington. "If you're not going to attend your own event then take it down dumbass and quit boring us."
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