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I hope this doesn't become the Superman 3 of the Iron Man series.

welp... now that pariah's weighed in so emphatically on it, I guess I'll be there opening night...

yar, i'm here (but UJ said it, so its not through bat-blinders)

not necessarily towards whedon - i honestly don't know what he's done and how much i hated it. just judging specifically on this film. just a few months shy of it's release, is the plot still publically defined as "seriously, it's like 10 heroes, who cares about the story"?

They have been purposely keeping the plot under wraps in order to keep most of the villains that will be featured a surprise.

All that's really known is Loki and the Cosmic Cube are involved somehow.

As far as the movie goes, it's a superhero flick. It doesn't have to be masterpiece theatre, just something I can enjoy watching while eating popcorn.

When they were filming here the news said they were fighting aliens, so I thought "Skrulls". Then I remembered I'm a geek and reporters are retarded. Its probably frost giants and other norse shit.

meh. its a movie! i want to know why i'm seeing it! i also have that fear about movie commercials that don't inform what the movie is about - typically, that's done to hide the fact that there is no movie.



im with ya. i dont need every movie to be dark knight, superhero opera. but iron man was fun. captain america was noble. thor was epoch. ...well, at least in premise.

avengers? i have no idea. its a neato collection of heroes, and yes, that's enough for me to see it. but i haven't seen anything to get excited about, other than the same premise that sounded exciting when the idea floated 20 years ago, and my concern is those fears have merit.

yes, yes, very good. you like socks.

like i said, i'm not expecting every movie to be that entrenched. iron man and many of the x-films were awesome and fun for different reasons. the expendables and oceans eleven had a great premise and plot besides just "lets add every one!"

i'll still see the movie, i'm not prometheus. but, even the people who are excited for the movie haven't really named a reason why they're excited other than "lotsa heroes at once"

Sorry to hear. Good luck with that.

P.S. Fuck you.

there's a catwoman thread in here somewhere

Goddammit.....SPIDER-BUGGY!!!!

because there's nothing to actually discuss about the avengers...

did you end up ever seeing green lantern? i don't recall

Actually, I did see it. I downloaded a cam version, but ended up DLing a better Region-5 rip of the DVD.

Honesty? Some of it was pretty. I liked Sinestro.

That's it.

I tried, Robert. I actually, sincerely tried. Do you think I want a trainwreck of a movie? No, of course not. I wanted GREEN LANTERN. But, what I got was a lame, half-assed, CGI-glutted, horrible-cast, horribly-acted, cliche-riddled marketing strategy vs. Iron Man. And that's all that piece of shit "movie" turned out to be. And if you don't believe me, there's a looooot of people in the world who share the same opinion (one I came to, I remind you, long before the movie came out). Doesn't mean you can't like it. If you did, cool. If you didn't, cool.

As for The Avengers, I am excited about the "get them all together" bit more than anything. Because, that's ALL The Avengers actually is. There's no meat to the concept. Just Marvel's Big Guns, more or less, joining forces. I've always wanted to see this on the Big Screen, but with the JLA. I'll accept The Avengers got there first.

But, what really excites me isn't the movie itself, but the fact that they're taking those first steps into Comic Book Team Movie territory. That will spawn some awful imitators. But, it will also give us some few-and-far-between good ones that they could possibly make. And if Avengers makes bank (and you know it will) then get ready for the sequels with additional new Avengers characters.

And I'm telling you right now: Matt LeBlanc (FRIENDS) as Wonder Man. Done.

But, the choice of Joss Whedon worries me. He's the cheaper alternative to a real director. Just like they won't pay Favereau to come back for Iron Man 3. Which means...as the laws of movies demand...their movie will get weaker and weaker until they flop. And then it's up to Disney whether they can get their shit together.

BTW, am I wrong in thinking the original Iron Man movie was made pre-Disney owning Marvel? It would explain a LOOOT about Iron Man 2 (Corporate Marketing)...

what's to believe about an opinion? have it, i'll believe you. and why would it matter what others share? its your opinion!!



and, even though you later confirmed your guesses, the "before the movie came out" notion is still bullshit.



i actually agree more than i disagree. i thought it was corny. surprisingly, not related at all to ryan reynolds. i didn't think it was as terrible as many doom-sayers, it had its enjoyable moments. but they weren't many.




meh, i guess its just not enough for me.

its like all the shitty incarnations of the justice league comic book. just because there's a batman and a superman doesn't make it insta-awesome. so much is poo. my fear with this movie not revealing any details is that they're masking a giant poo - a strategy so often seen with other movies.

i will still see it. i will still geek out at it. but the sweeded trailer you posted sorta joked about it in the most succinct way; that this is essentially iron man 3, because RDJ is awesome. thats the only other part i'm looking forward to.

I don't know sometimes they really do use it to hide a clever twist like the first Matrix, or T2.

remember the early trailers for T2 never implied who was good or bad.

Which completely ignores the fact that I was 100% correct about it. Do you hate economic forecasters or meteorologists because of their professions? Everything has patterns, and everything has signs, if you just pay attention. Even movies and marketing. Fact.



Although Reynolds does, I confess, bore the hell out of me as an actor, he wasn't necessarily the only reason it sucked. He was just the shit-cherry on top of a shit sandwich. Green Lantern is to me what I suspect Clooney's B&R is to you.



Totally fair enough. I mean, you could be completely correct and Avengers will hit the ground like a water balloon, content-wise. It will still make money, though. I cannot see why it wouldn't. Unless the upcoming marketing kills it, for some reason. Or people awake from the Joss Whedon trance.



I agree RDJ will be the best talent in the room at any given time (although I like the guy that plays Loki, as well). But, I really, REALLY loved CAPTAIN AMERICA. THOR was a McG-commercial compared to CAPTAIN AMERICA's heart. So, I will be looking forward to seeing if Evans can continue his winning streak as Cap. Especially if they play up the Steve/Tony relationship, as they should.

We'll see. "Yoda-8-Ball says: Cloudy, the future is"

Although I agree with Rob this could very easily be a crap-curtain, I remember what you're talking about. Just remains to be seen whether this is 'The Matrix' or 'The Matrix Reloaded'....

Also I referenced two movies. Can anyone think of a third or fourth?

Secretive productions/trailers? Fight Club?

They were both pre-Disney. Marvel began the shared movie-verse concept after IM went super-duper platinum at the box office. That explains IM2.

Abrams Star Trek would be a third (everyone knew going in it was a reboot but not that it was going to be the universe altering epic it turned out to be)

Oh, and I guess the hook for me besides seeing all of these characters coming together and kicking ass (now that I think about it) is the inclusion of the Cosmic Cube (there are so many ways they could go with the effects of the Cosmic Cube since it can be used to do anything in the Marvel Universe)

I hope that whatever they do with the Cosmic Cube, that it's good.

I get worried about Iron Man 3 sometimes, but then I remember thinking "Why is the guy who directed ELF doing Iron Man?" and shut up.

SWINGERS!

He was also this

so, congrats, you're a good guesser...? though it didn't turn out that way, you could have been 100% incorrect, which is why i find yours to be a pariahish system. i'd just rather review something to review something.



i found green lantern to be more of a boring movie, than a bad movie. it actually had a lot of the right elements, it was just much "meh". i didn't think it was comically bad, just disappointing. B&R, to me, was a bad movie. but that was coming from the perspective of a late teens, early 20s batman fan. if i were 7, i might have really enjoyed it. shockingly enough, it was "the" favorite for many fans now in their mid twenties (can you believe it was 15 years ago??)



the fat friend from rudy!

as a director? i loved what he did with iron man and iron man 2. as an actor, he's obnoxious shit, and definitively one of the least enjoyable parts of iron man 2. stop putting yourself into movies, thanks.

In all fairness, if you look back, I did briefly miscall Captain America's use of Chris Evans due to the burn of GL. It was the rubber-feet discussion. But, after that, I started paying attention and realized I was incorrect about that one.





First of all, WTF??!?!?!? Who the hell is crazy enough to think of 'Batman & Robin' in any other terms than "WTF??!?!?!?" What kind of people do you hang out with? Fucking New York...

Second............ouch. 15 years dates me. In the ass.



Yes.



SWINGERS!!!

But, yeah, the IM2 'Happy' fight was a little obnoxious.

At least he spent the whole fight on one guy while scarlet johanssons boobs took care of everyone else

wrong. the shared movie verse concept was part of IM from the get go as it was the first movie produced by Marvel themselves.

Marketing Happens!

think about it; what we know to be a shitstorm made 100 million in the states, and 250 mil world wide. just in theaters. and that's 15 years ago numbers, so you havta tack on an extra 25% or something. someone loved it.

and, i guess if you were 7 then and enjoyed it, you remember it differently, and dare i say fondly. and, now, its part of your batman experience. it can't be that different from the clash of eras that grew up with adam west batman versus those with tim burton.





he was a useless, wasted character. he gave himself a scene and made himself look good for... really that sole purpose. his fight scene was longer than iron man vs war machine .

I remember liking Uma Thurman in her Poison Ivy outfit a lot....the rest of the movie was shite.




Green Lantern RAWKED!!!

I remember liking Uma Thurman's vagina a lot.

It was the closest I was able to get to Ethan Hawke's penis.

I liked her boobies in Dangerous Liaisons.

Have you seen how the kids these days turned out? They aren't alright. Maybe, Bat-nipples are to blame for their whiny, emo cuntiness.

I guess that explains Justin Bieber.