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Here's mine:
1. Jack Kirby (New Gods, FF, Silver Surfer)
2. Gardner Fox (Hal Jordan, Barry Allen, Katar Hol, Ray Palmer)
3. Chris Claremont (Phoenix Saga and 20yrs of X-Men)
4. Jim Starlin (Thanos Saga, Dreadstar, Warlock)
5. John Byrne (FF, X-Men, Fourth World, even Man of Steel to an extent)
6. Marv Wolfman (Crisis, Trigon, Raven)
7. John Ostrander (The best writer The Spectre ever had... very cosmic)
8. Neil Gaiman
9. Jim Shooter and Paul Levitz (Legion's finest)
Who are yours?
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1) Jim Starlin ...for Warlock
2) Jack Kirby ... for FF
3) John Ostrander ... for X-Wing Rogue Squadron
4) Alan Moore ...for Supreme
5) Neil Gaiman ...for Sandman
6) Dave Sim ...for Cerebus
7) Gardner Fox ...for JLA
8) Keith Giffen ...for LoSH
9) Jim Shooter ...for LoSH
10) John Byrne ...for X-Men
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Alan Moore's a great writer, but I haven't bothered with Supreme because of the negative things I've heard about it. Is it really that good Deadshot?
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- Marv Wolfman
- Jim Starlin
- Grant Morrison
- Warren Ellis
- Carlos Pacheco
- Neil Gaiman
- Keith Giffen
- John Byrne
- Kurt Busiek
- Gardner Fox
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Originally posted by Doc.Mid-Nite:
Alan Moore's a great writer, but I haven't bothered with Supreme because of the negative things I've heard about it. Is it really that good Deadshot?
Have you heard bad things from anyone other than Man of the Atom?
We've talked about it a few times on these boards. King Krypton gives a good review of Story of the Year, the first Moore Supreme TPB, here, and a good review of The Return, the second Moore Supreme TPB, here. We also talk about Moore's Supreme briefly here, but it's more of a flame topic by the end than anything else.
Of course, Moore's also written many other great sci fi stories. In my opinion, there isn't much of his that isn't great, no matter what subject.
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Originally posted by Doc.Mid-Nite:
Alan Moore's a great writer, but I haven't bothered with Supreme because of the negative things I've heard about it. Is it really that good Deadshot?
Have you heard bad things from anyone other than Man of the Atom?
We've talked about it a few times on these boards. King Krypton gives a good review of Story of the Year, the first Moore Supreme TPB, here, and a good review of The Return, the second Moore Supreme TPB, here. We also talk about Moore's Supreme briefly here, but it's more of a flame topic by the end than anything else.
Of course, Moore's also written many other great sci fi stories. In my opinion, there isn't much of his that isn't great, no matter what subject.
I wasn't reading Supreme, so I stayed away from those threads because I had nothing to add to the conversation. But I have heard some negative things on other boards and sites. Thanks for the links though.
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Supreme is one of Moore's best. It ranks up there. And I'm not a big fan of either Silver Age ideas or Superman. Read it.
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Moore's short Green Lantern Corps stories were sci-fi and they were pretty good. It's a shame he didn't do more.
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Moore's short Green Lantern Corps stories were sci-fi and they were pretty good. It's a shame he didn't do more.
Yes, those were awfully good. If Moore's Supreme outshine's those then I must be missing out.
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Yeah, Moore's ToGL stuff was pretty good. I really like Tom Strong, too.
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Originally posted by Doc.Mid-Nite:
Alan Moore's a great writer, but I haven't bothered with Supreme because of the negative things I've heard about it. Is it really that good Deadshot?
That story with the thousand Darius Daxes was so good it nearly made me cry. Great art by Starlin, too. IMO, highly recommendable.
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My favourite sci-fi writer is Dan Simmons. Julian May used to be good too. (I did like the Lensmen comics as a kid, and Heilein's stuff too, but I'm a bit over it now.)
None of them have ventured in comics, AFAIK.
I've never read a particularly good sci-fi comic, to be honest.
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Top Ten, perhaps? Judge Dredd? Marshall Law? Metabarons? Incal?
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Never got into Judge Dredd or Marshall Law, or the ABC Warriors, Strontium Dogs, Rogue Trooper or any of those other 2000AD stories.
Is Top Ten science fiction? Isn't it just the super hero genre?
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I don't remember Neil Gaiman writing a lot of SF stuff: surely he's more fantasy?
Anyway.
Alan Moore (bit obvious)
Jack Kirby (very obvious)
Pat Mills (Marshall Law, Nemesis The Warlock, Metalzoic, etc)
John Wagner (Most of the other stuff in 2000AD that was any good, and all kinds of odd stuff)
Peter Milligan (2000AD again, The Minx, Skreemer)
Moebius (very obvious indeed)
Katsuhiro Otomo (An awful lot of cliches, but he uses them well)
Colleen Doran (A Different Soil is well worth a look)
Jamie Delano (2020 Visions, Outlaw Nation, World Without End, lots of other stuff)
Keith Giffen (All kinds of stuff when he isn't just doing limp humour)
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Is Top Ten science fiction? Isn't it just the super hero genre?
It sort of encompasses multiple genres. I remember us discussing this a few months ago, but I think that a book can be classified as both a "super hero" book and a "sci fi" book.
If you want a real science fiction book(a good one, in my opinion), check out some of the Humanoids Publishing books, like The Metabarons or The Incal, written by Moebius, the premiere science fiction writer in comic books, in my mind.
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Oh, and what about Magnus: Robot Fighter, or Rai, or some of the other Valiant books? Wouldn't those count as science fiction?
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Jamie Delano (2020 Visions, Outlaw Nation, World Without End, lots of other stuff)
Dunno if I'd call him a "science fiction" writer, but he's definitely one of my favorites.
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Originally posted by D. McDonagh:
I don't remember Neil Gaiman writing a lot of SF stuff: surely he's more fantasy?
Anyway.
Alan Moore (bit obvious)
Jack Kirby (very obvious)
Pat Mills (Marshall Law, Nemesis The Warlock, Metalzoic, etc)
John Wagner (Most of the other stuff in 2000AD that was any good, and all kinds of odd stuff)
Peter Milligan (2000AD again, The Minx, Skreemer)
Moebius (very obvious indeed)
Katsuhiro Otomo (An awful lot of cliches, but he uses them well)
Colleen Doran (A Different Soil is well worth a look)
Jamie Delano (2020 Visions, Outlaw Nation, World Without End, lots of other stuff)
Keith Giffen (All kinds of stuff when he isn't just doing limp humour)
It's the top 10 sci-fi/cosmic writers, so Neil Gaiman's Sandman can get pretty cosmic/out there.
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Originally posted by Dave:
Never got into Judge Dredd or Marshall Law, or the ABC Warriors, Strontium Dogs, Rogue Trooper or any of those other 2000AD stories.
Is Top Ten science fiction? Isn't it just the super hero genre?
I'd say Top Ten is about as sci-fi as the New Gods, but not as superheroish as Green Lantern (although I still consider Green Lantern to be pretty sci-fi compared to most comics)
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I always assumed that a lot of superhero stuff is rooted in SF anyway, there's all these aliens and mutants and suchlike.
Forgot to mention Howard Chaykin: I'd imagine Ironwolf and American Flagg qualify, and his adaptions of Bester and Delany are bloody good as well.
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Ah, i forgot Amerkan Flagg.
Also Y: The Last Man is sci fi dystopia, and very good.
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I enjoy Y The Last Man very much, as well.
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Y is my next View column.
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