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#1224485 - Mon Nov 13 2017 09:43 PM No Moore GOP
Matter-eater Man
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If you're wondering why republicans are now being more vocal about wanting Moore to drop out I see polling showing Moore actually losing in a deep red state. The Elvis did it to defense isn't cutting it with real people.

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#1224486 - Tue Nov 14 2017 12:06 PM Re: No Moore GOP [Re: Matter-eater Man]
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The pre-emptive Republican criticism of Roy Moore's candidacy is coming from establishment/RINO Republicans like John McCain who never supported Trump or pro-Trump candidates like Moore in the first place.

I still don't see any actual evidence against Roy Moore that he actually flirted with/hit on/forced himself on any 13 or 14 year old girls. Just the ALLLEGATION unleashed that he did so 38 or 40 years ago.
An allegation conveniently unleashed right before an election, at a point strategically selected by smearmeisters where no Republican could selected as a replacement candidate. Roy Moore has roughly 50 years of life in various public appointed/elected positions, and NOW these allegations are suddenly unleashed?!
That is just TOO convenient for Democrats, for his establishment Republican opposition, and for the Orwellian Newspeak DNC-partisan media.


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#1224487 - Tue Nov 14 2017 12:09 PM Re: No Moore GOP [Re: Wonder Boy]
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LOCAL MEDIA CONNECT ROY MOORE'S ACCUSER TO SEVERAL DNC CAMPAIGNS

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One of the women accusing Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore of sexual impropriety reportedly worked as a sign language interpreter for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, a new report claims.

Deborah Wesson Gibson, who told The Washington Post that she briefly dated Moore when she was 17 and he was 34, founded the language interpreting company, Signs of Excellence, and has worked for a number of democratic campaigns, according to Alabama Local News.

The company’s Facebook page shows Gibson working for and posing with several Democrats at political rallies including 2016 presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, former Vice President Joe Biden, former Sen. Patrick Murphy, D-Fla., and Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla.


(more at link)

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#1224488 - Tue Nov 14 2017 12:35 PM Re: No Moore GOP [Re: Wonder Boy]
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ROY MOORE STORY UNRAVELING

Several of Moore's accusers, including a Washington Post reporter who drafted the hit-piece, have a record of crimes, deceitful actions, and false sexual allegations.

It's also worthy of note that the Washington Post itself early on endorsed Moore's Democrat opponent, and has launched multiple hit pieces on Moore prior to this hitting on young teens accusation. Third time's the charm for tha Washington Post, I guess...

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#1224493 - Tue Nov 14 2017 07:01 PM Re: No Moore GOP [Re: Matter-eater Man]
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 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
If you're wondering why republicans are now being more vocal about wanting Moore to drop out I see polling showing Moore actually losing in a deep red state. The Elvis did it to defense isn't cutting it with real people.


I think the Moore coverage is great. You have the left, including people at The NY Times, realizing that intellectual consistency demands they call out Bill Clinton as a rapist and Hillary as his enabler.

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#1224494 - Tue Nov 14 2017 08:26 PM Re: No Moore GOP [Re: the G-man]
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Years of excusing Bill Clinton’s sexual misconduct suddenly seems morally indefensible: Democrats and liberal pundits are reckoning publicly with their own history of fervid rationalizations on behalf of a recent president.
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#1224495 - Tue Nov 14 2017 10:00 PM Re: No Moore GOP [Re: the G-man]
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G & WB can't even say a 30 yr old going after a 14 yr old is wrong. You are part of the problem imho

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#1224496 - Tue Nov 14 2017 11:19 PM Re: No Moore GOP [Re: Matter-eater Man]
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I can see it if it's proven that Roy Moore did have sex with an under-age girl. Even proving that Moore only made advances on these girls would be creepy, although not a crime. In one case, Moore (in a Sean Hannity interview) alleges a girl's mother encouraged her daughter to go out with Moore!

All I see are allegations. I don't see any evidence, and 38 years is a very long time ago. In 1979, I was a sophomore in high school, working my first job as a busboy. Beyond that, a lot of the details are lost to me.

I didn't believe the sudden sexual allegations that emerged similarly against Herman Cain, that emerged just when he became front runner in the GOP primary.
One of Moore's key accusers worked for the Hillary Clinton campaign, and other DNC campaigns! These allegations, emerging right now, are just WAY too convenient. There were 38 years of Moore's political career these allegations could be made, they are very suspect emerging in a cluster at this precise time, right before the election.

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#1224497 - Tue Nov 14 2017 11:44 PM Re: No Moore GOP [Re: Wonder Boy]
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THE TOP SEVEN KENNEDY SEX SCANDALS

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As Ted Kennedy's malignant brain tumor became public knowledge, opponents, friends, and pundits rushed to laud his accomplishments. Serving in the Senate since 1962, Ted Kennedy has been one of our most accomplished legislators. He has a big heart, works hard, and is extremely knowledgeable about both legislative content and procedure. Sometimes Kennedy (as when he vehemently opposed entering the war in Iraq) seems like the only American politician who can speak his mind freely. His efforts on behalf of those without privilege or power - as in the case of health care - are especially important and admirable.

Little has been said about his prior legal, marital, and ethical lapses, on the other hand. These are typical omissions in polite society. (I wonder if supporters feel that if they don't remind God of his lapses, Kennedy is more likely to get into Heaven.) However, as scientists of the mind, we at PT blogs are obligated to consider the entire range of human behavior. And the various Kennedys' sexual misdeeds are so notable that they raise - once again - the question of the relationship between power, recklessness, and sex. (See Why Politicians Get Laid More - the Low Road to the High Life, Sex Addicts Anonymous Meeting, Politicians' Division, and Edwards' confession shows us just how nutty and narcissistic he is.)

Here, in reverse order of importance, are the top seven Kennedy sex scandals:

7. Joe Kennedy, son of Robert Kennedy and former Congressman, secretly had his 12-year marriage to Sheila Rauch annulled by the Vatican. Rauch only found out about the annulment years later, after Kennedy remarried. She wrote a very angry book about the experience, Shattered Faith, since the Church's decreeing that the marriage never existed left her twin sons in everlasting limbo. Rauch pointed out that only powerful people like the Kennedy's could unilaterally cancel 12 years of marriage. (This raises the question of whether the Church can gain entry to Heaven for powerful people who have sinned.)

6. One of the storied political couplings of the twentieth century was between Andrew Cuomo, son of former New York Governor Mario Cuomo, and Kerry Kennedy, daughter of Robert Kennedy. The younger Cuomo was forced to withdraw his own bid for the governorship (although he is now the governor of New York) in 2002 when it was revealed that his wife, to whom he had been married 13 years and with whom he had three daughters, had been having a long-term affair with a married man. Kerry Kennedy's philandering shows that Kennedy disregard for marital niceties extends to the distaff side of the family as well.

5. An extremely unappetizing Kennedy scandal involved Joe's brother and campaign manager, Michael. Like his brother and sister, Michael was stably married with children when it was revealed he had been having an affair with a family babysitter, beginning when the girl was 14! This, of course, is a crime that would get a non-Kennedy registered as a sexual predator. For some reason (perhaps bribery and threats to her and her family), the girl refused to press charges, and Kennedy entered treatment for sex and alcohol addiction. Michael Kennedy had been keeping an extremely low profile when he died in an accident on a family skiing trip.

4. All of these scandals concerned third-generation Kennedy's. But the stories of sexual assaults, infidelity, and religious hypocrisy began with the family's patriarch, Joe Kennedy. In Swanson on Swanson, silent screen star Gloria Swanson revealed having an affair with Kennedy when, she claimed, he forced himself on her during his business trips to Hollywood when he left his saintly wife, Rose, at home in Massachusetts. (Swanson was most pissed off that, despite his legendary financial acumen, Joe lost a ton of her dough.) Other Kennedy family historians report that the elder Kennedy made advances on his sons' girlfriends!

3. Back to the younger Kennedy's, in 1991 Kennedy nephew William Smith was charged with rape while staying with uncle Teddy in the family's seaside estate in Palm Beach, FL. The woman claimed she met Smith at a night club at which he was accompanied by Ted Kennedy and his son, Patrick. Later, while ostensibly showing her around the estate, Smith began pursuing and pawing her as she tried to escape. Other women were found who described having similar experiences with the Kennedy nephew, but Smith was acquitted.

2. Both President Jack Kennedy - whose sexual escapades were legendary - and younger brother Bobby had closely contiguous sexual liaisons with Marilyn Monroe. Numerous conspiracy theories have been developed around the Kennedys' involvement in Monroe's death, which occurred in the aftermath of these affairs. At a minimum, the relationships were extremely damaging to Monroe's fragile mental health.

1. What could most interfere with Ted Kennedy's passage to Heaven (as it frustrated his aspirations to be president) was his involvement in the death of Mary Jo Kopechne. Following a party with six young female campaign workers on the island of Chappaquiddick, Kennedy was giving Kopechne a ride back to her hotel when he drove off a bridge. Kopechne drowned in the car, and Kennedy left the scene to consult with Kennedy family advisers. In fact, he never reported the incident, which was discovered independently the next morning! Kennedy was charged only with leaving the scene of an accident.

Of course, you and I can wonder how our lives would have been derailed if we were involved in a situation like this (Kennedy was married). But the Kennedy's are not deterred by such experiences, as the subsequent actions of his nephews and niece indicate. Are there separate rules - both legal and psychological - for people like the Kennedy's?





Gee, I missed when M E M ever objected to these and other well-known Kennedy family mistreatment/exploitation/assaults of women. And this is far rom a complete list.

I used to date a conservative girl from Boston, who said the city was divided into two factions, one who worshipped the Kennedys as American royalty, and the other faction who despised the Kennedys for their arrogance and abused political power, and that every detail of the Kennedy family's lives were constantly in the local papers. She said that Ted Kennedy in particular had a large court of lackeys looking for favors, who supplied Ted Kennedy with a steady stream of beautiful 25-year-olds in exchange for political favors he exchanged.

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#1224498 - Wed Nov 15 2017 07:23 AM Re: No Moore GOP [Re: Wonder Boy]
Matter-eater Man
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It's no surprise that g & yourself would make this about the other side. I always thought adultery was wrong. Moore is alleged to have gone into pedo territory though and because he's a republican in a deep red state he has a good chance of winning. You guys attack the people making the allegations, the media that reports it and even the republicans who are speaking up. You are the enablers

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