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 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
The above was entertainment. Media-relevant. Wondy, if you can't stay on topic, maybe you should head back over to the politics forum ...


Isn't the whole point of that video to elicit a political reaction?

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
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The above was entertainment. Media-relevant. Wondy, if you can't stay on topic, maybe you should head back over to the politics forum ...


Isn't the whole point of that video to elicit a political reaction?


I dunno, is it?


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Taking shots at "white racist" America, and dwelling on a level of racism that is at least 50-plus years in the past, if it even still exists.



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Last time I checked:

[] There weren't separate "white" and "colored" water fountains and bathrooms.

[] We had a black president for 8 years, two black secretaries of state, and blacks in every professional field.

[] Race-based discrimination was either a crime, a fire-able offense, or both.

I could cite other examples, but you get the idea. I didn't say racism no longer exists. But it certainly isn't even close to the days of Jim Crow or Emmett Till or Mississippi Burning. And as I've cited often, race-based black-on-white violence occurs at a rate of 50-to-1 of the reverse (U.S. Justice Department annual statistics). Racism is a two-way street.


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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
The above was entertainment. Media-relevant. Wondy, if you can't stay on topic, maybe you should head back over to the politics forum ...


Isn't the whole point of that video to elicit a political reaction?



Thank you.

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 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch


There's a shit-ton of messages crammed into this, though I'm not sure there'll be much agreement as to their meaning and import to the nation. Still, I figured it was at least worth a shot to see what anyone had to say about what Glover's doing here.


And then he had a hissy fit that I commented on those messages.


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 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
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The above was entertainment. Media-relevant. Wondy, if you can't stay on topic, maybe you should head back over to the politics forum ...


Isn't the whole point of that video to elicit a political reaction?


I dunno, is it?


Come on now:

  • Verse 1
    Verse one of “This Is America” is a combined effort of Gambino, Young Thug and 21 Savage.

    Gambino goes on talking about how police turns a bling eye towards the injustices happening, mostly because they, too, are responsible for a lot of it. He also speaks about the very lose rules and regulations being practised when it comes to gun control in the country. Most people are trying to glorify the owning of a gun. Slang such as being ‘strapped’ often soften the image of the real threat of guns.

    Getting ‘the bag’ could be a reference to getting a bag of money from rapping, and he says if he doesn’t, he will hit back to his pad and paper and continue writing until he cashes out.

    Refrain
    This section is a huge slap to the social injustice prevailing in the country.

    Black man has no way out of this oppression unless he makes himself a fortune and buys his respect. So, we hear Gambino screaming at the Black man to go make their money. However, the last two lines turn into an even worse cringe as “get your money” outcry transforms into “get your black man” chant. This is a very strong hint at the slavery memories upon which the country has been built on.

    Verse 2
    In verse 2 of “This Is America,” Childish Gambino says how easily people are manipulated and distracted by popular culture that they fail to see or completely ignore the real issues at hand. Some people geek out, some people focus on getting fit, a few others on luxury products, a lot more fixate on their looks, and a whole lot more focused on making it. So, artists such as Gambino and Kendrick Lamar try their best to not let these harsh realities bury down the dunes of time.

    Drugs, illegal weapons, and even human trafficking some of the things being sold to the highest bidder, oftentimes in open market as well.

    Outro
    The outro of this song is completely performed by Young Thug. This solemn cry is about being a Black man in white country and the harsh realities of it. You could probably be a big dog in the country, but there still will be a bigger dog biting you down.


Any more "political," and that video would end if a voter registration hotline number flashing on screen.

Don't be pretend naive and don't be a troll. Even if we accept every negative thing you have to say about Wondy above (and God knows WB is easy to bait), you chose to post a video that you knew would bait him on a board where he's practically the only regular poster left. You knew exactly what you were doing.

So let's not clutch our pearls and feign shock and dismay that someone started discussing politics in response to this video.

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Oh, I'm being facetious as all shit. It's manifestly political as hell. I'm just not interested in hearing the same worn-out conspiracy horseshit from the Gary Busey-crazy schizocons propping up this shitshow of an administration.


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Insults.

Vs. the facts right in front of you, that you refuse to process.

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YouTube Is Now Censoring Criticism Of Childish Gambino’s ‘This Is America’ Music Video


The surest sign that the video has a leftist political message is the censorship of conservative criticism of it.

The ironies just pile up.



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Private companies do have that right. Seeing anything with Alex Jones name on it makes me think whatever they've cut was probably just garbage anyway.


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 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
Private companies do have that right.


Unless it's a wedding cake, then all hell breaks lose.

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Lol, that would be your side. I'm fine with the law being applied equally.


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You're too politically aware to not know what G-man meant, M E M.

He was referring to gays taking Christian bakers and photographers to court and forcing them against their beliefs to cater and photograph gay weddings.

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yeah I know what he was trying to do but it's not the same thing. If you thought so than I would point out that your trying to have it both ways.


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If Google started censoring pro-gay content, MEM's "they're a private company" position would change pretty quickly.

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I'm sure they like YouTube have already cut offensive posts by gays too. Maybe g your trying to have it both ways?


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My sincerest apologies to anyone who still frequents the Media forum on account of it not being the Politics forum.


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 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy


YouTube Is Now Censoring Criticism Of Childish Gambino’s ‘This Is America’ Music Video


The surest sign that the video has a leftist political message is the censorship of conservative criticism of it.

The ironies just pile up.


 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy
You're too politically aware to not know what G-man meant, M E M.

He was referring to gays taking Christian bakers and photographers to court and forcing them against their beliefs to cater and photograph gay weddings.


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yeah I know what he was trying to do but it's not the same thing. If you thought so than I would point out that your trying to have it both ways.


The point is, you believe in the right to discriminate and suppress free speech (deleting posts and accounts of conservative speech they don't like) by liberal companies like Facebook, Twitter and YouTube.

But conversely, you think conservatives don't have the same right to conduct their business in accordance with their beliefs, that they should be sued out of business if they refuse to bake a gay wedding cake, or photograph a gay wedding.

That, sir, is a hypocritical double-standard.


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    Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.

    EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.
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So you and g think companies shouldn't have control over their content?


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 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
So you and g think companies shouldn't have control over their content?


I just said what I think.

That the rule of law should apply one standard to everyone, Democrat or Republican.

Either both should be able to control business according to their beliefs, or both should not be able to discriminate against messages and beliefs they don't agree with. No double standards.


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    Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.

    EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.
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So strip out the protections against religion would be something you would be supportive of?


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I think the boards are broken again. I clicked on the Media section but got taken to the Politics section.


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 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
So you and g think companies shouldn't have control over their content?


I just said what I think.

That the rule of law should apply one standard to everyone, Democrat or Republican.

Either both should be able to control business according to their beliefs, or both should not be able to discriminate against messages and beliefs they don't agree with. No double standards.


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So strip out the protections against religion would be something you would be supportive of?


That's rather ambiguous. And unless you have a specific factual argument, the protections of religion are in our founding documents, and I see no reason for the U.S. to set them aside. They were put in place because we are a republic founded on Biblical principles (primary of which is our U.S. Constitution, a contract between a government and its people, that mirrors the contract between God and Man in the Old and New Testaments).
In addition, the Bible teaches a moral standard that keeps us unified as a people (at least until the point in 1963 where Leftist forces began to increasingly push us away from that standard.)

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Of all the dispositions and habits that lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indespensible supports. In vain would man claim the tribue of patriotism who should labor to subvert the great pillars of human happiness... True religion affords to government its surest support.
--George Washington

Our Constitution is made for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other.
--John Adams

Religion is deemed in other countries as incompatible with good government, and yet proved by our own experience as its best support.
--Thomas Jefferson



Presumably, the protections of the Church and religious freedom were to encourage them, to grow them, to encourage what was/is good for the health of our constitutional republic. And to encourage the community and charity that surround churches.

And:

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A general dissolution of principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common enemy. While the people are virtuous, they cannot be subdued; but when they lose their virtue they will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or internal invader.
--Samuel Adams


That is precisely the Cultural Marxist plan that has been unfolding in the U.S. for over 50 years. And is the stated plan of the Frankfurt School that escaped Germany to the U.S. in the 1930's, their disciples who came of age in the 1960's, and their current progeny among the inner circles of Obama, Hillary, and the Democrat/Left. That is not conspiracy theory, that is precisely the battle plan plainly stated in the writings and public statements of 80 years of Cultural Marxists.
It is their plan to create doubts and splintering divisions in our western culture and topple the pillars of our culture (Christianity, family, and nationalism) so those pillars will no longer exist, and then a demoralized people will passively not resist the new socialist/globalist order.

The opening video to this topic is just one more drop in the ocean of liberal propaganda toward that end.



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I was just seeing if you were applying your previous principle about applying one standard to everyone. Religious exceptions don't do that.


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Asked and answered.
There are religious exceptions because they are not just another bakery or shoe manufacturer. They were recognized from the nation's beginning as something of unique benefit to the community and vital health of the nation, and therefore uniquely encouraged, since the nation's inception.

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Yes but even with religious exceptions there are limits. While you and g reduce it to sides the principle of the law using one standard is important to everyone.


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Respectfully, Christian church attendance is imploding and goes down several percentage points every time they do another Gallup poll on the subject (and I've linked many here in the past.)

Churches often have so few members that many no longer have their own buildings as they used to, and are instead renting space in strip shopping centers, or even local high schools.

That is often true in Catholic schools as well. Pat Buchanan cited in SUICIDE OF A SUPERPOWER that Catholic schools (he is Catholic, I am not) that Catholic schools have increasing trouble, and are often compelled by lack of applicants to hire non-Catholics, and even non-Christians, to teach in their schools, and how that renders Catholic education often questionable in its effectiveness in preserving the faith.

So I don't see how Christianity is much of a threat, let alone a rising threat. And whatever minor tax breaks churches have are far from the only tax exemptions.
If you want to demagogue a group for tax exemptions, corporate subsidies would be a far more valid target, since they reap billions in subsidies and tax breaks they don't even need in many cases. Under Obama, two examples are GE and Solyndra, whose subsidies were the equivalent of state-run capitalism as practiced in communist China, where the government picks what companies are winners and losers. And in Solyndra's case, wasting a lot of taxpayer dollars on something that didn't even work.

Even in the era of President George W. Bush, who was the most devout Christian in office since Ronald Reagan, Christian evangelicals said they felt betrayed and marginalized, despite their strong support of W. Bush.
And other nations give special tax status to churches. Canada, for example. I don't see that churches are great abusers of the system. Or again, any kind of a rising threat to the Left or anyone else. I would assume Jewish, Islamic, Hindu and even gay churches have the same exemptions.

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I think the boards are broken again. I clicked on the Media section but got taken to the Politics section.


Right? It's like every couple pages, I think I'm in the Media section for a moment, then, boom. Hard left into the ass-end of the Politics board.


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