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#1226496 - Tue Jul 31 2018 08:54 PM Donald Trump's pushback at a media that despises and treats him badly
Wonder Boy
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M E M raised this in another topic, I felt it deserves its own topic. It's an ongoing situation.

VENTING ABOUT PRESS, TRUMP HAS REPEATEDLY SOUGHT TO BAN REPORTERS OVER QUESTIONS



That's an example of "fake news" right there in the headline from this Washington Post piece. A more honest headline would be "Trump CONSIDERS WHAT TO DO, with a RUDE AND DEFIANT MEDIA THAT TREATS HIM DAILY IN A WAY THEY WOULD NEVER TREAT OBAMA".


The latest situation with CNN reporter Kaitlan Collins, she was shouting questions over a meeting with a foreign leader, to the point that she was interrupting the event itself. It's not that her two questions were inappropriate, but as Trump said privately, the WAY she asked them, shouting over the event in an attention-whore grandstanding Jim Acosta sort of way.

The meat of the article is a bit more fair to Trump, that he has three times as many press meetings as his predecessor and is much more available to answer questions. And at least accurately report that it is not the questions that annoy Trump, but THE WAY they are asked.

On the occasions I watch Sarah Huckabee-Sanders' daily press conferences, or conferences with the president himself, or even his former White House physician Ronnie Jackson, I am almost daily astonished at the level of rudeness of the press to the president and his staff.
I cannot emphasize this enough: these reporters would NEVER treat Obama the way they treat Trump every day. And I don't blame Trump at all for his reaction to it. I'm not him, but it offends me, and just makes me hate the liberal media even more.


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    Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.

    EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.

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#1226497 - Tue Jul 31 2018 09:40 PM Re: Donald Trump's pushback at a media that despises and treats him badly [Re: Wonder Boy]
Matter-eater Man
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When he declares the press as the enemy of the people he reveals himself as the true threat.

Fair play!

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#1226498 - Tue Jul 31 2018 09:57 PM Re: Donald Trump's pushback at a media that despises and treats him badly [Re: Matter-eater Man]
Wonder Boy
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Beyond some off-the-cuff sarcastic remarks about how he should ban them because they are so biased, Trump has not done so.

And as I pointed out above and in the other Charlottesville topic, Obama was:

  • far less available to the press,
  • Obama had reporters arrested for exposing his administration,
  • Obama tried to shut out Fox News entirely from White House press conferences as "not a real news channel".
  • Obama also (very similar to Trump with CNN) took shots at Fox News all through his 8 years.

It wasn't enough that Obama had every other print and broadcast news agency on his side and acting as his PR wing, Obama had to try and shut down the one channel that dissented and didn't selectively omit negative coverage of him.


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#1226501 - Tue Jul 31 2018 10:44 PM Re: Donald Trump's pushback at a media that despises and treats him badly [Re: Wonder Boy]
Matter-eater Man
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Trump calls the news media the "Enemy of the American People"

He's done that several times so don't even bother trying to claim otherwise. The lump of shit also equates a negative story about him as fake. It's an indefensible position for those that truly value democracy.

Fair play!

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#1226502 - Wed Aug 01 2018 08:23 AM Re: Donald Trump's pushback at a media that despises and treats him badly [Re: Matter-eater Man]
Wonder Boy
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 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
Trump calls the news media the "Enemy of the American People"

He's done that several times so don't even bother trying to claim otherwise. The lump of shit also equates a negative story about him as fake. It's an indefensible position for those that truly value democracy.



We've discussed this before. I'd argue that the news media has become a cog in the machine of Cultural Marxism, part of the conspirators to undermine our democracy and collapse our Constitutional democracy and re-make us into a socialist globalist European style utopia.

And it would appear that an overwhelming majority of the population agrees with Trump that the news media has become an enemy of the people. A majority of both Republicans and Independents have ceased to trust the liberal media. And Liberals only trust it because it's confirmation bias for what they already believe.

I think on the specific subject of the political coup against Donald Trump's presidency, where FBI,, CIA and intelligence agency powers have been misused and weaponized to slander and depose a sitting president, the news media have betrayed the responsibility they were entrusted with, and have actually helped the coup rather than objectively cover what is happening.
https://www.conservapedia.com/Russian_collusion_hoax
Likewise with the weaponizing of the IRS against conservatives 6 years ago. And on the prosecution of Lois Lerner, where (like with Hillary Clinton) the case was deliberately thrown by FBI/DOJ, and the media barely covered it. That is truly scary. It is no surprise that without media pushback, Democrats were emboldened to even greater abuses of power.

Likewise, rather than exposing the pushes toward mob rule and attacks on conservatives, the news media have also selectively omitted coverage of, abdicated responsibility for, and actually sided with, the mob. Mob rule is perfectly okay for the liberal media, so long as the mob they favor wins. We are headed for a Democrat/liberal Kristallnacht on conservative America, and the media is nowhere to be found.

So while Trump has said that about the news media, and he has said not all the news media are fake, "but many of them are awful people", there are plenty of examples to back that statement up. That they are not only deliberately deceitful in their coverage of conservatives, and especially of Trump in particular, but that the media are far-Left participants in the Cultural Marxist/globalist conspiracy against the United States itself.

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#1226503 - Wed Aug 01 2018 01:43 PM Re: Donald Trump's pushback at a media that despises and treats him badly [Re: Matter-eater Man]
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 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
When he declares the press as the enemy of the people he reveals himself as the true threat.


When they support statism and socialism, coverup misdeeds of politicians they support, oppose others having free speech and go out of their way to sensationalize the news, rushing out stories that turn out to be false, they kind of are.

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#1226512 - Thu Aug 02 2018 09:12 PM Re: Donald Trump's pushback at a media that despises and treats him badly [Re: the G-man]
Matter-eater Man
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Most of the media is owned by large corporations that enjoy capitalism so not really sure what you feel crosses the line there. I guess if you consider the free and independent press the enemy of the American people now I wonder how far your party is going to take us down the rabbit hole.

Fair play!

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#1226515 - Thu Aug 02 2018 10:32 PM Re: Donald Trump's pushback at a media that despises and treats him badly [Re: Matter-eater Man]
Wonder Boy
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A lot of corporations, or at least their CEO's, favor statism because in a state-run capitalism model, if they are among the favored, they reap billions from statist policy and no-bid federal contracts.

For example the largest health insurers spent millions on TV commercials in favor of Obamacare, because once passed, it would reap them billions in guaranteed business, as Comrade Obama's insurance mandate required every American to buy their product.

Likewise GE and its executive among Obama's favored elite, Geoffrey Immelt, also received a contract that netted GE billions.

It's a myth that "the rich" are all Republicans. Big business actually favors Democrats, because regulation favors the largest corporations, because it drives their smaller competition who can't as easily absorb the cost of new regulations out of business, and increases market-share for the ones who are left.
Democrats don't have a good explanation for why Republicans are the party of "the rich", but somehow all the most prominent billionaires such as Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, Mark Zuckerberg, and Jeff Bezos, and companies like YouTube, Twitter, Amazon and Facebook are clearly Democrat supporters. More than that, act as Democrat authoritarian enforcers helping with their corporate power to shut down free speech and control the message in favor of Democrats by every deceitful abuse of power available to them.


  • from Do Racists have lower IQ's...

    Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.

    EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.

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#1226516 - Thu Aug 02 2018 11:13 PM Re: Donald Trump's pushback at a media that despises and treats him badly [Re: Wonder Boy]
Matter-eater Man
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When was Trumpcare starting btw? Or is just spending more money with less people covered it?

Fair play!

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#1226518 - Thu Aug 02 2018 11:25 PM Re: Donald Trump's pushback at a media that despises and treats him badly [Re: Matter-eater Man]
Matter-eater Man
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And plenty of wealthy people donate/buy GOP candidates. The tax breaks are for them for starters

Fair play!

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