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#1227626 - Tue Nov 06 2018 11:07 PM Democrats take the House
Matter-eater Man
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One party rule is over and the Dems now have some oversight and subpoena power.

Fair play!

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#1227627 - Wed Nov 07 2018 04:55 AM Re: Democrats take the House [Re: Matter-eater Man]
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And Republicans kept and widened their majority in the Senate.


I would have preferred if the Republicans kept control of both, and a number of races are still undecided, but as I believe Vice President Pence phrased it yesterday, "The blue wave hit a red wall."

The Democrats gained a slight majority in the House. Even so, Democrats did not get the 30-plus seats the opposing party normally gets in a mid-term election. As much as pollsters were willing to commit (one liberal pollster on MSNBC noncommitally estimated "a Democrat gain somewhere beteen 15 and 50 seats") the actually victory for Dems was closer to the low end of projected possible wins. Relatively minimal due to the relentless efforts of Donald Trump.

Likewise with the Brett Kavanaugh confirmation. If not for the president's vigorous support of Kavanaugh in his campaign stump speeches, the infuriatingly vile slander-fest of the Democrats against Kavanaugh would have succeeded. (Credit as well to a remarkably passionate expression of outrage in the Senate confirmation hearings by Sen. Lindsey Graham, and the heartfelt confirmation hearing words of Brett Kavanaugh himself.) But Trump over and over has proven himself the indispensable man who makes things happen.

The fanaticism of your Dem party warrants that it be destroyed, and from the ashes replaced by saner less incendiary and marxist-radical heads. I'm disappointed they were not completely destroyed in this election. But at least they were contained. The "blue wave" slowed to a trickle.


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#1227628 - Wed Nov 07 2018 05:51 AM Re: Democrats take the House [Re: Wonder Boy]
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Some comparable midterms in recent decades:


UNDER REAGAN:

97th Congress (Jan 1981-Jan 1983)
Senate 46 Democrats, 53 Republlicans
House 242 Democrats, 192 Repubicans

98th Congress (Jan 1983-Jan 1985) _______________NOV 1982 MIDTERM
Senate 46 Democrats, 54 Republicans (1 gain, Republicans)
House 269 Democrats, 166 Repubicans (27 gains, Democrats)


99th Congress (Jan 1985-Jan 1987)
Senate 47 Democrats, 53 Republlicans
House 253 Democrats, 182 Repubicans

100th Congress (Jan 1987-Jan 1989) ________________NOV 1986 MIDTERM
Senate 55 Democrats, 45 Republicans (8 gains, Democrats)
House 269 Democrats, 166 Repubicans (16 gains, Democrats)


UNDER G H W BUSH:

101st Congress (Jan 1989-Jan 1991)
Senate 55 Democrats, 45 Republlicans
House 258 Democrats, 177 Repubicans

102nd Congress (Jan 1991-Jan 1993) _________________NOV 1992 MIDTERM
Senate 55 Democrats, 45 Republicans (no change, no losses)
House 260 Democrats, 175 Repubicans (2 gains, Democrats)


UNDER CLINTON:

103rd Congress (Jan 1993-Jan 1995)
Senate 57 Democrats, 43 Republlicans
House 258 Democrats, 176 Repubicans

104th Congress (Jan 1995-Jan 1997) ________________NOV 1994 MIDTERM
Senate 48 Democrats, 52 Republicans (9 gains, Republicans)
House 204 Democrats, 230 Repubicans (54 gains, Republicans)


105th Congress (Jan 1997-Jan 1999)
Senate 45 Democrats, 55 Republlicans
House 206 Democrats, 228 Repubicans

106th Congress (Jan 1999-Jan 2001) _________________NOV 1998 MIDTERM
Senate 45 Democrats, 55 Republicans (no losses)
House 211 Democrats, 223 Repubicans (5 gains, Democrats)


UNDER W. BUSH :

107th Congress (Jan 2001-Jan 2003)
Senate 50 Democrats, 49 Republlicans , 1 other
House 212 Democrats, 221 Repubicans

108th Congress (Jan 2003-Jan 2005) _________________NOV 2002 MIDTERM
Senate 48 Democrats, 52 Republicans (2 gains, Republicans)
House 205 Democrats, 229 Repubicans (8 gains, Republicans)


109th Congress (Jan 2005-Jan 2007)
Senate 44 Democrats, 55 Republlicans , 1 other
House 200 Democrats, 231 Repubicans, 1 other

110th Congress (Jan 2007-Jan 2009) ________________NOV 2006 MIDTERM
Senate 49 Democrats, 49 Republicans, 2 other (5 gains, Democrat)
House 233 Democrats, 202 Repubicans (33 gains, Democrats)


UNDER BARACK OBAMA :

111th Congress (Jan 2009-Jan 2011)
Senate 55 Democrats, 41 Republlicans , 2 other
House 256 Democrats, 178 Repubicans,

112th Congress (Jan 2011-Jan 2013) ________________NOV 2010 MIDTERM
Senate 51 Democrats, 47 Republicans, 2 other (6 gains, Republican)
House 193 Democrats, 242 Repubicans (64 gains, Republicans)


113th Congress (Jan 2013-Jan 2015)
Senate 53 Democrats, 45 Republlicans , 2 other
House 200 Democrats, 233 Repubicans

114th Congress (Jan 2015-Jan 2017) _________________NOV 2014 MIDTERM
Senate 44 Democrats, 54 Republicans, 2 other (9 gains, Republican)
House 158 Democrats, 247 Repubicans (14 gains, Republicans)


A barometer by which to judge the changes in this midterm. The biggest "wave" elections have been 1994, 2006, and 2010.
The final totals are not finished yet for 2018, but it is not as sweeping as those 3.







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#1227629 - Wed Nov 07 2018 06:34 AM Re: Democrats take the House [Re: Wonder Boy]
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It almost seems like a win-win to me.

The Dems can thwart trumps legislative agenda in the house.

Minnesota made the Democrat party the party of wife beaters and Muslims.

The Republicans widened their margin in the Senate meaning Trump can replace Jeff Sessions and more importantly McConnell can keep confirming Judges.

Meanwhile the president can keep tweeting about Pelosi, Pocahontas and mad Maxine Waters and use their obstructionism as an excuse for anything he can't get done.

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#1227631 - Wed Nov 07 2018 07:25 AM Re: Democrats take the House [Re: the G-man]
Matter-eater Man
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I'm guessing Melania had some hair ripped out last night before getting raped. Ellison won after the Star-Tribune sued for his divorce records to be unsealed. Ellison fought against it and it made him look guilty imho. However unsealed records show he wasn't the abuser but the exwive was. His exwive thanked him for trying to protect her. In other words he would never be republican Supreme Court material. The Senate was very unlikely so I'm happy with winning the House.

Fair play!

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#1227632 - Wed Nov 07 2018 07:55 AM Re: Democrats take the House [Re: Matter-eater Man]
Wonder Boy
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 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
I'm guessing Melania had some hair ripped out last night before getting raped. Ellison won after the Star-Tribune sued for his divorce records to be unsealed. Ellison fought against it and it made him look guilty imho. However unsealed records show he wasn't the abuser but the exwive was. His exwive thanked him for trying to protect her. In other words he would never be republican Supreme Court material. The Senate was very unlikely so I'm happy with winning the House.


Sometimes you disappoint me, M E M.
Melania Trump doesn't deserve this kind of slanderous characterization. nor does Trump, with what is an outrageous false narative, that even his ex wife Ivanna denies, despite the bitterness of their divorce. A woman doesn't remain friends with a guy who ripped her hair out by its bloody roots. Or write introductions for his later autobiographies.

You are playing with fire when you make such inflammatory false characterizations. I can't tell you the violence it stirs in me to hear such vicious lies about good people without a shred of evidence. There is a level of Republican anger your party has begun deliberately stoking that I and many other Republicans have never experienced before. The kind of viciousness the jackals in your party unleashed on Brett Kavanaugh and his family. And Clarence Thomas, Herman Cain, Donald Trump, and Roy Moore. With allegations so vile, that you know to be lies, but you would destroy their lives just to win a short-term political victory. Despite the slander, intimidation and violence of your party, we are the party of restraint. But if you attack us enough, enrage us enough, you will get the blowback you deserve.

And Keith Ellison comes from a black-separatist muslim cult of dangerous Hitler-praising rabidly antisemitic racists, from a culture well known for degredation and abuse of women. And Ellison has more than one accuser. The world is a better place with him gone from the political landscape. Your party is better off not having to defend him.


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#1227636 - Wed Nov 07 2018 09:09 PM Re: Democrats take the House [Re: Wonder Boy]
Matter-eater Man
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 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
I'm guessing Melania had some hair ripped out last night before getting raped. Ellison won after the Star-Tribune sued for his divorce records to be unsealed. Ellison fought against it and it made him look guilty imho. However unsealed records show he wasn't the abuser but the exwive was. His exwive thanked him for trying to protect her. In other words he would never be republican Supreme Court material. The Senate was very unlikely so I'm happy with winning the House.


Sometimes you disappoint me, M E M.
Melania Trump doesn't deserve this kind of slanderous characterization. nor does Trump, with what is an outrageous false narative, that even his ex wife Ivanna denies, despite the bitterness of their divorce. A woman doesn't remain friends with a guy who ripped her hair out by its bloody roots. Or write introductions for his later autobiographies.

You are playing with fire when you make such inflammatory false characterizations. I can't tell you the violence it stirs in me to hear such vicious lies about good people without a shred of evidence. There is a level of Republican anger your party has begun deliberately stoking that I and many other Republicans have never experienced before. The kind of viciousness the jackals in your party unleashed on Brett Kavanaugh and his family. And Clarence Thomas, Herman Cain, Donald Trump, and Roy Moore. With allegations so vile, that you know to be lies, but you would destroy their lives just to win a short-term political victory. Despite the slander, intimidation and violence of your party, we are the party of restraint. But if you attack us enough, enrage us enough, you will get the blowback you deserve.

And Keith Ellison comes from a black-separatist muslim cult of dangerous Hitler-praising rabidly antisemitic racists, from a culture well known for degredation and abuse of women. And Ellison has more than one accuser. The world is a better place with him gone from the political landscape. Your party is better off not having to defend him.


We've been over this quite a few times. It is a fact that Trump's first wife in a legal deposition alleged tubby pulled out her hair before brutally raping her. He than paid her a lot of money. Afterwards she started to back pedal but she never said she lied. You say it doesn't make sense that she would be friends with somebody that did that but flip it around. Does it make any sense that he would be close friends with somebody that made up such a vicious story, much less pay a lot of money afterwards? No, it was more likely a pay off. Speaking of paying off women, I do sorta feel bad for Melanoma. Her husband's adultery and pay offs have to be really embarrassing for her. I doubt she lets the orange blob in the same bedroom anymore.

Fair play!

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#1227637 - Thu Nov 08 2018 01:18 AM Re: Democrats take the House [Re: Matter-eater Man]
Wonder Boy
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You're clinging to a slanderous narrative that has been discredited. You are speculating that Ivanna Trump was bought off with a lot of money, but the fact is, she retracted her story, Trump and Ivanna are friends, and she did write the introduction to one of Trump's books just a few years after the fact.
As for your flip-around scenario, Trump is I think understanding of Ivanna's vindictiveness because he wronged her, having and affair, divorcing Ivanna, and marrying Marla Maples, that for a while angered her. And she did retract the story. Even if she had not retracted it, there is still not evidence that it occurred. At the peak of the allegations it was still only he said/she said.

Your vicious personal attacks on both Trump and wife Melania are petty and overly personal, and just more evidence how unhinged and mean-spirited both you and your party of race-baiters and cultural marxists have become. You humiliate yourself my fronting those allegations and personal insults.

  • from Do Racists have lower IQ's...

    Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.

    EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.

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#1227638 - Thu Nov 08 2018 01:28 AM Re: Democrats take the House [Re: Wonder Boy]
Wonder Boy
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 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy


Some comparable midterms in recent decades:


UNDER REAGAN:

97th Congress (Jan 1981-Jan 1983)
Senate 46 Democrats, 53 Republlicans
House 242 Democrats, 192 Repubicans

98th Congress (Jan 1983-Jan 1985) _______________NOV 1982 MIDTERM
Senate 46 Democrats, 54 Republicans (1 gain, Republicans)
House 269 Democrats, 166 Repubicans (27 gains, Democrats)


99th Congress (Jan 1985-Jan 1987)
Senate 47 Democrats, 53 Republlicans
House 253 Democrats, 182 Repubicans

100th Congress (Jan 1987-Jan 1989) ________________NOV 1986 MIDTERM
Senate 55 Democrats, 45 Republicans (8 gains, Democrats)
House 269 Democrats, 166 Repubicans (16 gains, Democrats)


UNDER G H W BUSH:

101st Congress (Jan 1989-Jan 1991)
Senate 55 Democrats, 45 Republlicans
House 258 Democrats, 177 Repubicans

102nd Congress (Jan 1991-Jan 1993) _________________NOV 1992 MIDTERM
Senate 55 Democrats, 45 Republicans (no change, no losses)
House 260 Democrats, 175 Repubicans (2 gains, Democrats)


UNDER CLINTON:

103rd Congress (Jan 1993-Jan 1995)
Senate 57 Democrats, 43 Republlicans
House 258 Democrats, 176 Repubicans

104th Congress (Jan 1995-Jan 1997) ________________NOV 1994 MIDTERM
Senate 48 Democrats, 52 Republicans (9 gains, Republicans)
House 204 Democrats, 230 Repubicans (54 gains, Republicans)


105th Congress (Jan 1997-Jan 1999)
Senate 45 Democrats, 55 Republlicans
House 206 Democrats, 228 Repubicans

106th Congress (Jan 1999-Jan 2001) _________________NOV 1998 MIDTERM
Senate 45 Democrats, 55 Republicans (no losses)
House 211 Democrats, 223 Repubicans (5 gains, Democrats)


UNDER W. BUSH :

107th Congress (Jan 2001-Jan 2003)
Senate 50 Democrats, 49 Republlicans , 1 other
House 212 Democrats, 221 Repubicans

108th Congress (Jan 2003-Jan 2005) _________________NOV 2002 MIDTERM
Senate 48 Democrats, 52 Republicans (2 gains, Republicans)
House 205 Democrats, 229 Repubicans (8 gains, Republicans)


109th Congress (Jan 2005-Jan 2007)
Senate 44 Democrats, 55 Republlicans , 1 other
House 200 Democrats, 231 Repubicans, 1 other

110th Congress (Jan 2007-Jan 2009) ________________NOV 2006 MIDTERM
Senate 49 Democrats, 49 Republicans, 2 other (5 gains, Democrat)
House 233 Democrats, 202 Repubicans (33 gains, Democrats)


UNDER BARACK OBAMA :

111th Congress (Jan 2009-Jan 2011)
Senate 55 Democrats, 41 Republlicans , 2 other
House 256 Democrats, 178 Repubicans,

112th Congress (Jan 2011-Jan 2013) ________________NOV 2010 MIDTERM
Senate 51 Democrats, 47 Republicans, 2 other (6 gains, Republican)
House 193 Democrats, 242 Repubicans (64 gains, Republicans)


113th Congress (Jan 2013-Jan 2015)
Senate 53 Democrats, 45 Republlicans , 2 other
House 200 Democrats, 233 Repubicans

114th Congress (Jan 2015-Jan 2017) _________________NOV 2014 MIDTERM
Senate 44 Democrats, 54 Republicans, 2 other (9 gains, Republican)
House 158 Democrats, 247 Repubicans (14 gains, Republicans)


A barometer by which to judge the changes in this midterm. The biggest "wave" elections have been 1994, 2006, and 2010.
The final totals are not finished yet for 2018, but it is not as sweeping as those 3.









What I posted in the other topic that was unnecessarily created.


And when the final totals for the Nov 2018 mid-term election are announced, they will appear here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/116th_United_States_Congress



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