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#1227448 - Mon Oct 22 2018 02:31 PM The Soros-funded caravan of 7,000 refugees
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Even the liberal media is acknowledging that this massive a wave of refugees in a "caravan" doesn't just happen. It requires logistical support to feed and transport these people.

And while mostly men under the age of 35, they calculatedly pushed women and children to the front of the line as a human shield, to push through the Honduran/Mexican border. And seriously injured at least four Mexican police officers in the process. Criminals just lawlessly seizing an opportunity to get in illegally, injuring police to get what they want, with no regard for the rule of law.
Who thinks these people would be good for our country?

And if this wave gets through, how many more waves after?




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#1227449 - Mon Oct 22 2018 02:49 PM Re: The Soros-funded caravan of 7,000 refugees [Re: Wonder Boy]
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ILLEGAL CARAVANS ENCOURAGED BY HONDURAS AND SOROS

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By Daniel John Sobieski


Just in time for the midterms, another "spontaneous" migration from Central America began with a bevy of allegedly oppressed and downtrodden Hondurans leading the way. Pressured by a threat from President Trump to cut aid to Honduras, Guatemala, and El Salvador if the caravan is not stopped, some moves by these governments have been made. Yet evidence exists that these migrations are not spontaneous, with both of the governments in question encouraging them as a political and economic safety valve and a source of foreign currency, financed in part by foreign leftists with connections to George Soros.

As Fox News's Laura Ingraham noted in a tweet, this is not a walk in a national park, but an expensive and arduous journey:

Who is funding the migrant "caravan"? Each migrant's passage can cost as much as $7K each. Per capita income in Honduras is $2.3 K.

It is doubtful that such sums came from college funds. Evidence of Soros funding of an earlier "spontaneous" migration have been found among the tentacles of support that flow from his Open Society group coffers:


Leftist billionaire George Soros is funding the well-organized anti-Trump migrant caravan invasion from Central America that has been hitting the United States-Mexico border in defiance of immigration enforcement.

Several major ultra-liberal foundations and corporations have supported the asylum-seeking migrant caravans, and Soros' funding has been tied to several groups that have spearheaded the "refugee" invasion coalition – also dubbed "the Soros Express."

"The caravan is organized by a group called Pueblo Sin Fronteras, [but] the effort is supported by the coalition CARA Family Detention Pro Bono Project, which includes Catholic Legal Immigration Network (CLIN), the American Immigration Council (AIC), the Refugee and Immigration Center for Education and Legal Services (RICELS) and the American Immigration Lawyers Association (AILA) – thus the acronym CARA," WND reported. "At least three of the four groups are funded by George Soros' Open Society Foundation."

The hands of the Honduran government are not clean in these efforts. Among the alleged asylum-seekers parked on the U.S. border is a contingent of Hondurans, allegedly fleeing persecution, poverty, crime, and oppression. If that is the case, why is the Honduran government helping them, driving them northward under orders given to the Honduran ambassador, who is helping and escorting them?


Leaders of a caravan of Central American migrants traveling toward the United States through Mexico have repeatedly accused the Honduran government of corruption and with failing to address the poverty, crime and economic conditions forcing families to flee by the thousands.

So it shocked some observers when the Honduran ambassador joined the migrants protesting outside the Honduran embassy in Mexico City on Wednesday, and then accepted their invitation to walk 9 miles to a migrant shelter.

"I have been ordered by my government to support the Honduran migrants traveling with the caravan. There are about 200 Hondurans who we will help out with paperwork and whatever is necessary," Alden Rivera Montes, the Honduran ambassador to Mexico, told El Universal.

Ordered by my government? Why is the country whose oppression they are allegedly fleeing helping them leave? The answer is remittances, the money sent back home by so-called "migrants." Asylum is in large part a colossal scam designed to provide Latin American countries with a political and economic safety valve and a cash cow of foreign exchange. In 2017, remittances sent back to Honduras totaled $4.33 billion and make up a significant part of the Honduran economy:


Within the span of a few short decades, migrants have become an essential engine of economic support for Honduras. Remittances comprised 17 percent of the nation's gross domestic product (GDP) in 2011, according to World Bank estimates, the second largest share of any country in Latin America or the Caribbean. As such, Honduran emigrants have tremendous significance for the country's economy and for the sustenance of many otherwise impoverished communities and families.


Talk about a trade imbalance. We import alleged asylum-seekers and other illegal aliens, and they send home billions sucked out of a benevolent U.S. government and economy. We have an economy that has some 7.3 million jobs going unfilled because of a shortage of skilled workers. Judging from photos of the latest caravan, one would suggest a paucity of welders, pipefitters, electricians, and long-haul truck-drivers.

Inner-city blacks have long asked which country they get to go to to escape violence and poverty. Although President Trump is succeeding in fighting crime and increasing job opportunities in our urban areas, much remains to be done. We do not need to be importing low-wage and low-skilled competitors to American citizens to drive down poor workers' wages. Inner-city residents have long asked, where's our sanctuary?

Unlike the children of Central America, arriving en masse, the children of Chicago, facing conditions every bit as horrible, have no border to cross to seek asylum or refuge.

"Do something for our children," said one of the protesters in a video posted at the blog Rebel Pundit. "Have the same love for these young people like you got for the ones across the border, and you want to save them."

A woman, identified only as Elaine, explained the plight of inner-city Baltimore residents on Laura Ingraham's radio show: "My children cannot play outside. I cannot take my trash out without locking the door – it's awful. Who is going to give us anything? Where can I get asylum? Where can I get refugee status?"

Where, indeed? Perhaps this side of a border wall Democrats oppose in favor of sanctuary cities and Medicare for illegal aliens. If any of the alleged asylum-seekers want to learn a trade – how about a crash course in border wall construction? Build it, and they won't come.


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#1227586 - Tue Oct 30 2018 11:36 PM Re: The Soros-funded caravan of 7,000 refugees [Re: Wonder Boy]
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MS-13's Active Members Are Laughing At Trump's Crackdown (Vice News)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_bmFJRcseg



It's a clickbait title. A better title would be "who these Central American fuckers really are" : MS-13. Who make it clear they have killed people. But they want to be admitted into the United States, either legally or illegally. So they can victimize more people in the U.S.

To hell with that.

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#1227589 - Wed Oct 31 2018 02:22 AM Re: The Soros-funded caravan of 7,000 refugees [Re: Wonder Boy]
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Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham both tonight had very good information on the cost of illegal immigration, and of children born to illegals in the U.S. and entitled to U.S. citizenship at birth despite their illegals status.

As Buchanan also partly cited in his book STATE OF EMERGENCY in 2006, illegal children are roughly 10% of all births in the U.S. (Buchanan cites in 2006 the estimate of roughly 300,000 of 3 million U.S. births annually.) That it bankrupts hospitals when immigrants are given medical care they cannot afford for the births other care, and that at that time (2006) it had bankrupted 10 hospitals in California. Probably a lot more by now.
And that when the children turn 21, they can sponsor their parents and entire extended family for immigration to the U.S. And that even as a newborn infant, they qualify their illegal immigrant parents for welfare to care for them.

Ingraham cites that the estimate held since 2000 of 12 million illegals in the U.S. is now considered vastly below the actual number, now estimated at roughly 22 million illegals in the U.S. (and I think even that estimate is too low, actually more in the range of 40 million illegals in the U.S.)
And based on that higher 22 million number of illegals, the number of illegal births are estimated at 400,000 to 600,000 a year, at an estimated annual cost to taxpaying U.S. citizens of 2.4 billion annually.

The total cost of all illegal immigration annually is now estimated at $136 billion.


Donald Trump (consistent with his 2016 campaign rhetoric) today proposed either a Constitutional amendment/law or (secondary option) an executive order that children born to women illegally in this country will no longer be entitled to U.S. citizenship at birth.



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#1227590 - Wed Oct 31 2018 02:33 AM Re: The Soros-funded caravan of 7,000 refugees [Re: Wonder Boy]
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If you want to enter the U.S. and become a loyal U.S. citizen, why would you march in under a foreign flag?

These are not "immigrants" or "refugees". They are lawless invaders.
Marching toward our border in the thousands.




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#1227591 - Wed Oct 31 2018 02:46 AM Re: The Soros-funded caravan of 7,000 refugees [Re: Wonder Boy]
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https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/trump-is-right-to-warn-about-migrant-caravans.jpg

https://mediadc.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/...92750617564.jpg








Ohh, not at all looking like an invading army!

  • from Do Racists have lower IQ's...

    Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.

    EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.

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#1227592 - Wed Oct 31 2018 02:52 AM Re: The Soros-funded caravan of 7,000 refugees [Re: Wonder Boy]
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Tearing down border fences, throwing rocks and broken glass aat Mexican police, severely injuring at least four.

Moving lawlessly and injuring anyone who gets in their way, will they behave any more lawfully when entering the United States?
We all know the answer to that.










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#1227655 - Mon Nov 12 2018 08:47 AM Re: The Soros-funded caravan of 7,000 refugees [Re: Wonder Boy]
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KIRSTJEN NIELSEN: DHS WARNS OF MEXICAN DRUG CARTELS' ROLE IN MIGRANT CARAVAN


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Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen warned Sunday that the illegal immigrant caravan heading toward the U.S. could be exploited by cartels that control most of the illegal flow of people through Latin America.

Ms. Nielsen also praised the efforts of Mexico and Central American governments she said are working with the U.S. to try to contain the caravan, rather than enable it.

While some among the once-5,000 member caravan have given up and returned to Honduras, local reports say about 2,000 people have barged into Mexico and vow to press on to the U.S., defying the will of the Mexican and American governments.

Warnings of a get-tough policy from U.S. officials have done little to deter the migrants, who for years have seen relatives and neighbors easily jump the border to enter the U.S. with little consequence. The ease of entering is a selling point for the cartels, who control the drug and human smuggling routes into the U.S. and require payment of a “mafia fee” just to cross the U.S.-Mexico boundary line.

Court records show that fee typically runs from $1,000 to $2,000. That doesn’t include thousands of dollars in other fees that cover foot guides, drivers, stash houses and the rest of the illegal journey.

“While we closely monitor the caravan crisis, we must remain mindful of the transnational criminal organizations and other criminals that prey on the vulnerabilities of those undertaking the irregular migration journey,” [DHS secretary] Nielsen said in a statement Sunday.


She also repeated U.S. backing for the governments who have tried, under threats from President Trump, to stem the flow.

“We fully support the efforts of Guatemala, Honduras and Mexico, as they seek to address this critical situation and ensure a safer and more secure region,” the secretary said.

Mr. Trump has said he would pull U.S. foreign assistance from Central American countries and would “seal” the border, including nixing the free trade agreement he’s finalizing with Mexico, unless those nations find ways to halt the caravan.

He has also said he will deploy the U.S. military — a step beyond the National Guard troops he previously asked be sent to the border.

Mexican authorities had attempted to keep the caravan in Guatemala, processing people individually to enter either to claim asylum or to get a visitor visa. But thousands of migrants decided not to wait and burst through fencing or paid to be ferried across the river into Mexico, circumventing the border guards.

The caravan began a week ago in Honduras. The Associated Press reported that Guatemalan officials calculate some 5,400 people had entered their country from Honduras since the caravan began. Perhaps 2,000 have returned home.





Two other contributing factors:

1) The governments in Honduras, Guatamala and El Salvador love illegal immigration to the United States from their countries, because once in the U.S., they send money to relatives in their native countries, that injects billions into their economy. Trump needs to create a deterrant to this.

2) In addition to Soros/Leftist international support, these caravans are also organized by Leftist groups within nations like Guatamala and Honduras. One of their goals iss to stoke anger of the United States so we will cut off foreign aid, which will criplle the internal economy of these countries, and in rough economic times the radical left in these countries have a botter chance of being elected and consolidating power in these countries.

Some things Trump could do is intervene to improve the economies in these countries, to disincentivize them from leaving and coming to the U.S.
While simultaneously cracking down hard and deporting illegal immigration. I'd like to see an order that no more illegals willbe accepted at the border until further notice. We already have a backlog of 750,000 illegas in the couyntry awaiting their trial dates for asylum/refugee status. Trump could simply say until that backlog is processed, we will accept and consider no more.

Another option I thought of is U.S. military and border security could cross the border and intercept illegals 1 to 10 miles into the Mexican side of the border (as the U.S. has done on several other occasions). If Mexican law enforcement cannot/will not stop them, the U.S. has every right to go in and do the job ourselves.
U.S. focrces could just hit the mob of 7,000 with several square miles of tear gas to immobilize them, handcuff or bind them all, and take them back by plane or helicopter and drop them on the beach of their native countries. If they do not make it to the U.S. border, they are not entitled to asylum consideration, and can just be shipped right back to Central America. And fatigue from the long trip, combined with being tear-gassed, would be a disincentive to them ever trying again.
I also would like each of them captured, bound, fingerprinted and given unfavorable status if they ever try to enter the country by legal means later, with their passport/I.D. and fingerprints in the U.S. ICE/Border Guard database system. Anyone who would smash border gates, beat up Mexican police, and try to break into our country illegally should never be considered as a potential immigrant to the U.S., given their violence and disregard for our laws.




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#1227656 - Mon Nov 12 2018 09:10 AM Re: The Soros-funded caravan of 7,000 refugees [Re: Wonder Boy]
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100 PEOPLE KIDNAPPED FROM MIGRANT CARAVAN BY MEXICAN DRUG CARTELS


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At least 100 members of the migrant caravan travelling through Mexico in an attempt to reach the United States have been kidnapped by the Zetas cartel, according to human rights officials in the country.

Fleeing gang violence and threats back home in Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador, thousands of the migrants travelling en masse reached Mexico City on Monday and Tuesday.
But reports have emerged that a number of members, including children, have gone missing from the group. They are suspected of having fallen prey to criminal gangs, who abduct migrants in order to extort their family members.

Human rights activists and officials in the southern states of Oaxaca and Veracruz, across which the massive group of Central American migrants have trekked over the last few weeks, say that at least 100 were kidnapped in the state of Puebla and allegedly handed over to the Zetas gang.
Arturo Peimbert, the human rights ombudsman in Oaxaca, told local media that the migrants were offered rides by fruit trucks, which they took despite warnings not to, and after getting onto the trucks found themselves locked in.

“The testimonies I have heard [of those who managed to escape] was that many of those migrants were handed over to organised crime near the Federal Police base in Puebla," Mr Peimbert related.
The ombudsman said that promises from the state government of Veracruz to provide transport to the migrants to get them to Mexico City were later retracted, creating a sense of desperation among many in the group.

Numbering more than 4,000 now, the Central Americans have been trekking steadily from their home countries in hot, unsanitary conditions in an attempt to reach Mexico’s shared border with the United States and ask for asylum.
In Mexico City, they have been given shelter and other humanitarian help by the city government.

For years, organised crime has preyed on migrants passing through Mexico, from taxing them to use established routes to kidnapping them and imprisoning them in safehouses.
They then ring their relatives either at home or those already living in the US to demand payment in return for their release.

The size of the group of migrants currently passing through Mexico has brought renewed attention and interest to the plight of those fleeing violence and gangs back home.
Donald Trump, the US president, has ramped up his anti-immigrant rhetoric as the migrant groups approaches the US border.

This week, he told the migrants to “turn back now, because you’re not getting in,” and has pledged to send some 15,000 extra troops to the border to protect Americans.




Once again posing the question: Who are the cruel ones? The ones who would deny them entry as illegals? Or the Leftist/progressives who encourage these people to make the trip, thus putting them in danger? Allowing the first waves to come in just encourages more waves of people to make the trip and suffer the same kinds of abuse.

And I repeat: human rights organizations estimate that 60 to 80% of the young girls who make this trip are raped and sexually abused. Some are abducted and forced into human slavery as prostitutes. Border guards interviewed say they find "morning after pill" or birth control pills among these girls' carried belongings, given by their parents knowing in advance what they will endure. If we let this wave in, it just encourages tens of thousands more to make the trip and endure the same abuse.



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#1227747 - Mon Nov 19 2018 08:12 PM Re: The Soros-funded caravan of 7,000 refugees [Re: Wonder Boy]
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The first of several "caravans" arrived much sooner than the liberal media predicted, at the gates of Tijuana, about 3,500 of them. With about 10,000 in following caravans on the way.

DHS has identified about 500 of them that are known criminals. Out of just 3,500, that ratio is pretty frigging high.







Piss me off.
I don't know why border patrol doesn't use tear gas, or rubber bullets, or flash-bang grenades, or a water cannon to make this scum scurry like rats back to the Mexican side. It really infuriates me these jerks are able to just sit there on the wall waving their arms and defy border guards. The U.S. military or border patrol should have pounded them with tear gas 1 to 10 miles inside the Mexican sside of the border, loaded them on helicopters, and dropped them right back on the beaches of Honduras and Guatemala. These are criminal thugs, even the ones who have not yet committed crimes, in their intent to rush our borders and attempt to overwhelm border guards to gain entry to the U.S.

As lawless thugs who are not even trying to obey the laws of asylum, they should not be given the consideration for asylum. If they are apprehended before they reach the border, they are not entitled to that.
And the U.S. at least twice in the last century has done such apprehensions on the Mexican side. If the Mexicans cannot secure their own borders, we have every right to do that.

Maybe the solution is a few thousand U.S. citizens with BB guns, who could just painfully hit them with BB's over and over, like being stung 100 times by bees, until they retreat.


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