Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy



 Originally Posted By: M E M
It’s just such a huge number. Even under best case scenarios this will have huge ramifications. I’ll just point out that most of the economic expansion happened under Obama’s last term and some of his first. Trump inherited a good economy and blew up the economy for not even much of a gain in GDP. His record now includes this.



You go on beleiving that, M E M.
Eight Obama years, of which none achieved 2% growth, where Obama economic officials called that "the new normal", that they couldn't even imagine higher annual growth than that.

Then Trump becomes president, and achieves almost 4% growth his first year. Despite 3 devastating hurricanes that hit the U.S. that first year. Without which, Trump's policies likely would have achieve over 4% growth the very first year.
If Obama's economic advisors could not even imagine 3% growwth, and did not achieve it in 8 years, how can they possibly take credit for over 3% growth in Trump's very first year?
That puts the lie to your lips, M E M.

Trump has quantifiably the highest growth and the lowest unemployment in at least 50 years across a multitude of demographic categories.
The lowest black employment ever recorded (annually measured since 1972).
The lowest hispanic unemployment.
The lowest women's unemployment since the 1950's.
The lowest under-30 unemployment.

And that's not just lower than Obama. That's also lower than W. Bush, lower than Bill Clinton, lower than Bush Sr, lower than Reagan!

There's no way to spin that to say Obama had better economic performance. Those are the hard numbers.


I don’t have to believe in facts. The economic expansion started long before Trump was elected. You can play with stats to try to hide it but all the unemployment numbers were going down under Obama after recovering from a global recession.

Fair play!