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The 'Dirty Dozen' violent toys

Watchdog group puts Power Rangers, WWE action figures, Ninja Turtles on its black list.
November 24, 2003: 11:15 AM EST

By Parija Bhatnagar, CNN/Money Staff Writer


NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Power Rangers and World Wrestling Entertainment action figures are three of the brands on this year's "Dirty Dozen" most violent toys, a children's advocacy group said Monday.

This is the eighth annual list of most violent toys compiled by the Maryland-based public interest group The Lion & Lamb Project, which warns parents what not to buy for their children for the holidays.

Executive Director Daphne White said the group is primarily concerned about violent messages stemming not only from toys but also from television, movies, videos, music lyrics, arcade games and video games.

"We're worried about violence being marketed to children as fun and entertaining," White told CNN/Money. "Our list is a little different this year because it highlights the 'brands' that are marketed to children through a combination of toys, video games, DVDs and other items."

"Our children are now moved along from the cartoon violence in 'Ninja Turtles' to the cold-blooded murder in 'The Matrix Reloaded' in just a few short years," White said, adding some of the toys in the group's list have violent themes and are marketed at kids as young as age 3.

Responding to the Lion&Lamb list, the Toy Industry Association (TIA) said in a statement released Monday that "pre-holiday news conferences regarding various alleged hazards in children's toys have become an annual event at which some groups try to establish a direct, causal connection between societal violence and specific types of toys."

The TIA's response also included comments from child development expert Jeffrey Goldstein, author of "Why We Watch: The Attractions of Violent Entertainment," claiming that accusations about individual toys promoting violence does not stand up to academic scrutiny.

Lion & Lamb alleges that the Casey Jones action figure from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles promotes a vigilante code. The message on the toy's box says, "Judge, jury and enforcer! ... Casey has a unique sense of what's right or wrong and you better be on the side of right or he'll slap shot you upside your head with his hockey stick."

The group also took issue with Power Rangers Ninja Storm video game from California-based THQ Inc (THQI: Research, Estimates).

"Like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, this is another television-generated brand with the message that the best way to solve problems is through violence," White said, noting that while Power Rangers are portrayed as good guys they solve problems by fighting.

Hong Kong-based Playmates, maker of Ninja Turtles action figures, and video game maker THQ could not immediately be reached for comment.

Also on the list are the WWE Training Day action figures from Jakks Pacific (JAKK: Research, Estimates) and the WWE Smackdown! video game also from THQ.

Jakks Pacific could not be reached for comment.

The group also warned parents about "The Hulk", "The Matrix" and "X-Men" movies, DVDs and related toys and video games.

About "The Hulk" toy, the group said the stuffed green toy looks "friendly and harmless as the Jolly Green Giant but is based on a PG-13 movie about rage."

The X-Men video game is marketed to children age 6 and up, but has been released along with a PG-13 movie, Lion&Lamb said, noting the video game box urges users to "use lethal combo attacks" and "prepare to meet your makers."

"The Matrix" video game is rated T for teens, yet is based on an R-rated adult movie, the group said. "This game features a "sniper mode" and allows players to "ride shotgun, shooting from passenger's seat," it said.


Um...I guess it wouldn't help to explain to these pansies that talking things out is boring?

I bet they would speak out against Kenshin too. And he always makes it a point to say that he hates violence, and he uses a reverse blade sword to avoid killing.

Anyway...

I feel sorry for their kids. :lol:

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These lists are made by people who buy their kids tie-dye kits and face-painting sets for Christmas. Excuse me: their non-denominational holiday of their choice. [wink]

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"When I was a kid I was so poor, Ooo was I poor. If I hadn't been born a boy, I wouldn't have had anything to play with"
--Rodney Dangerfield, on the Tonight Show, 1982

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Remember quotes from old folks?

All we had to play with were sticks and rocks.

Um, and what did you do with said sticks and rocks?
Beat each other up and break windows, of course.

Parents complain an awful lot, but I see these same parents every day in line @ Target buying Turtles, action figures, video games that children can't buy alone, and lots of BRATZ barbie dolls for the girls (the ones that "dress so slutty").

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These parents probably don't care to let their kids date at age 10 though. "Love is natural violence is not". Blah. All these arguements are stupid. I exclusively had violent and arcane toys and never went and purposefully injured nayone had rage or any of that crap. It's about balance in social peer groups, study, family time and play time.

What did I have???...Gi Joe, Mego, Super Powers, star Wars, He Man, transformers, D & D..all of which have elements of violence, but all are grounded in morality at their core. what is right and what is wrong. I think the parent's have more of a problem with their brand of relativism more than anything.

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Basically, the parents want to shift responsibility from themselves to someone else. "I'm not to blame for my kid bullying the other children at school. It's those violent TV shows that I give him access to and the gruesome toys and video games that I buy him."

My roommate and I were in the EB the other day checking out some PC and XBox games. A kid (probably about 12 or so) was having her buy him the GTA/Vice City double pack. The clerk then informed her that it was a game with adult themes and language. When the mom asked what kind of themes, the clerk replied, "Well, you own a strip club." The mom didn't even wait to hear about the violence and cursing before she gave a resounding "NO!" to buying that game.

At first I though, "Good for her." Then, I realized that it took the clerk informing her about the game for her to say no. She never even checked the box that clearly states that it's a mature game. Had it not been for the clerk, that kid would be blasting Cuban gansters while listening to Flock of Seagulls. Parents depend too much on other people to do their jobs for them. It is, ultimately, their responsibility to keep these "violent" toys out of their kids' hands. Not the toy manufacturers'. Not the stores'.

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"Parents depend too much on other people to do their jobs for them."

Once again, another far too broad generalization about parents. MOST of us care about our kids, what they watch, see, and do. MOST of us see parenting as our responsibility, to our children and to society at large.

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I was really just referring to the ones that complain about TV, toys, and such. But I see that I didn't make myself clear on that point. Just a little too quick to post to really proo-read.

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Jim, and thedoctor,

Some of the same issues, of many parents' abdication of responsibility for raising their children, were also raised in another topic previously:

"Why is crime sometimes appealing?" topic
http://www.robkamphausen.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=27;t=000758


Many of the same issues raised in this topic, about monitoring childrens' and teenagers' entertainment and behavior, is discussed in the above topic as well.





I think the problem is that there are SOME parents who are very good parents.
I also know some others who smoke drugs with their teenage/college-age children. And others who at least openly use drugs around their children.
But I see far more parents who are just too busy with their own activities and careers, and offer no standard for sexual or ethical behavior for their children.

Some parents rationalize that they're too busy to monitor their children properly. But I'd argue that they just haven't made raising their children a priority.





A documentary about a syphilis epidemic among teens in an upscale suburb (Frontline on PBS: "The Children of Rockdale County") exposed the problem of upscale families with two working parents, where the kids were virtually unsupervised, watching porn, and imitating what they saw, having group sex.

And when all these kids ended up at the hospital for treatment of syphilis, and the parents were all called and the situation explained to them, and instructed to bring their kids in for medical treatment, of all the kids within a rather large circle of teenage sex partners, the kids were described by their own parents as all giving each other high-fives in the waiting room, and laughing about it, like it was some badge of honor and coolness that they all got syphilis from reckless group sex.




I've seen other stories of this type, and talked to enough people involved in this kind of wild lifestyle to know this isn't an isolated event.




I've seen a fair amount of kids from very good families involved in drugs, gangs, and other wild and criminal behavior. And the very idea of moral restraint of any kind is generally ridiculed and dismissed as hypocritical, and even backward and parochial in our current culture.





So I guess the answer to the topic question is: Kids play with whatever they want, and a majority of the time, no one cares.

And if anyone dares to call it immoral and depraved, then THEY, not the behavior and the parenting, are criticized. And the obvious problem that exists is dismissed as "conservative paranoia".

Kids were using marijuana and cocaine when I was in high school. Now they're also using Ecstasy, Meth, and highly addictive Crack, and God knows what else.

Group sex, in high school and younger now.




Two 17 year olds shot a home porn movie with a 15 year old girl in Boca Raton, bragged about it in school, planned to sell it on the internet, before they were caught by police. Probably not the only incident of its kind.

Beating up teachers. Again in Boca Raton, a teacher tried to make a girl put out a cigarette while on school property, and the girl beat the teacher to within an inch of her life, pounding her head on the sidewalk.
And the parent of the teen girl, was he ashamed and apologetic for his daughter's behavior? Quite the contrary, he went out and got her the most expensive lawyer he could find, to try and keep the girl from being accountable for her actions.

Shooting of teachers. (Nathanial Brazil, who shot a teacher in the face 3 years ago at age 14, was interviewed tonight on my local news. )

Kids with guns shooting as many teachers and fellow students as they could at Columbine.
And then copycat crimes for weeks afterwards by other alienated teens.

Children murdering their parents.





With bad-attitude role models in recent years for women as well, there is a sharp rise in women imprisoned for armed robbery and other violent crimes.

I think about 90% of it can be traced to bad parenting, and in many cases the total lack of a father in the picture at all.

I mean really, what evidence do we need, to say "this is a serious cultural problem" ?!



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I think you listed enough in that last post.

My problem is that we have so called "experts" blaming everything on TV and toys, when it's clear that this is not the case.

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Originally posted by KrazyXXXDJ:
Remember quotes from old folks?
All we had to play with were sticks and rocks. Um, and what did you do with said sticks and rocks?
Beat each other up and break windows, of course.

STICKS AND ROCKS SHOULD BE OUTLAWED! THEY'RE JUST TO DANGEROUS!

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