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which're you? do you stick to party lines when it comes to policies? when it comes to elected officials?
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im not even sure what party i am. if i had to say, i guess republican. no real reason to back that up, tho. id NEVER vote on party lines, i think thats retarded. i voted for W over gore cuz i thought he was better, not cuz of his party. if it was bradley vs. W, i woulda voted for bradley. tho, if mccain got that far, he'd be my vote 100%.
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actually, now im really tryin to figure this out. im not a fan of bill clinton. and i cant stand hillary. i love giuliani. i thought reagan was a great president. then again, i wasnt too big on bush sr, and i think jfk was one of the best presidents of all time, and think rfk could have been even better. tho i do think ted is an ass. so, that seems like im a pretty even split. and, during the bush/clinton/perot debates, i think i liked perot's stuff better than either big-name-party guy. so, maybe i cant call myself a republican (regardless of the fact that im a straight, white, christian male, age 18-35). i guess im just a loner. a rebel.
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If you honestly thought Reagan was a great president, then you are definitely a Republican. And a dope at that. Then again, didn't you just turn 21? You didn't even experience Reagan's presidency on anything other than a hearsay basis. Actually, it was a great time to be a wealthy white guy during the Reagan/Bush regime. Everyone else caught hell....probably how the Shrub's single term is gonna end up.
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23, sure. young. but learned! so learned, in fact, that i pronounce the word "learn-id." yeah, ok, so, minority life wasnt so hot in the 80s. no ones perfect. reagan was great for the country as a whole. he obviously had his downfalls, but there's not a president who doesnt. i also like the fact that he was sorta crazy. i think a good prez needs t'have a lil crazy in'em. kennedy had it. lincoln was like a frickin wrestler. tom j was bangin the help. yeah, i dunno. im at work and im bored. typing keeps me awake.
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tom j was bangin the help.
Je was able to finance un whole war campaign avec le money from his taste pour French whores! Zat es correct! 
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Republican, but lately I've been leaning toward the middle. I think most of the general Republican policies are good(ie abortion, gun laws, drug laws, and military policies). I mean, you have to be glad that Bush is in presidency now that this shit has gone off.
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Because of where I work, I have to register as a Republican and vote on the republican ticket for primaries. At least with real elections, I can choose for myself who I want to vote for. I usually waste it though and vote for Bozo. I think watching Bozo giving press conferences about Ossama Bin Laden would be kinda funny. He would probably do a pretty good job cheering people up...
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rob Kamphausen:<BR>tom j was bangin the help.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Je was able to finance un whole war campaign avec le money from his taste pour French whores! Zat es correct! [image]images/icons/grin.gif" border="0[/image]
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If it weren't for the primaires, I'd register Independent. But for the sake of the primaries, since you can only pick a nominee from your party, and since I seem to see eye to eye with more Democratic candidates than Republican or Independent candidates on certain issues, I'm registered Democrat. If my views change later in life, my political party will probably change with it.
In elections, however, I ignore party lines completely and vote for who I consider to be the best person for the job (or the lesser of two evils). There's too much at stake to let blind loyalty sway my vote.
I'm only 22 (23 on May 1st), and I haven't had many opportunitues to put this into practice yet. This November will be my first real election - I was doing a study abroad program in 2000, and they never sent me the absentee balot I requested. But I'm voting for the guy I think will do the best job as president.
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I don't have any affliations with any party. Actually, I'm pretty like that with life in general. I take the best of whatever groups have to offer. To be honest, I don't really like anyone involved in the 2004 election, Bush and Co. included.
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Until recently I was an independent.
Now, I'm a liberal democrat.
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I'm more of a middle kinda guy, I vote for whomever I think has the best issues (No, nothing about personality) in Denmark, obviously.
I'm not registered or anything, due to the fact that we don't have to, we get our voting ticket sent to us via mail. Everyone who can vote does
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it varies, in the presidential primary i vote for whichever party is not incumbent so i can vote on who i think is the best choice of that party, if its not presidential, i vote whichever party is having the most candidates for an office i care about who gets in, for example since i live in a very rural area, sheriff is a very important job depending on who is in office effects alot of things directly so if its a sheriff election i follow the same criteria as i do for the presidential election....
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in the presidential primary i vote for whichever party is incumbent
Man, states that allow that people to do that steam me.
The whole point of a primary is for people in a particular party to decide who best represents that party. Furthermore it creates the potential for one side to screw with the other side's nomination process, which I just find cheap and sleazy.
BTW--This is not an attack on you bsams, but on the law.
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but i think it works out well for people like myself, who do not consider thereselves members of either party, i realize it is very important to some people to have a party affiliation, but i vote candidate by candidate.....
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Democrat for the most part. My first chance to vote was during Dukakis' run for president & I just couldn't do it. I also won't vote on the smaller races if I don't know anything about the candidates. I did vote for Ventura in 2000. He sounded good but it soon became apparent that he had very little support from either party nor the press. He threw tantrums and had even less support. Even though it's a Republican in the Gov's seat I'm so glad the Ventura days are over.
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I'm a registered Democrat, but Kerry creeps me out. Don't I have any other choices? Can I write in someone else? Anyone else. A block of wood upended in the Oval Office could probably do a better job.
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I don't like party lines. I think your own individual values should determine who you want to represent you - because otherwise what's the point of calling them representatives?I personally don't like big government. I do not think the government is responsible for making people happy - only ensuring they have the freedom to pursue happiness. I don't believe the government should determine anyone's financial security, because that detracts from their own freedom to do so. And I don't think the government should be trying to be some sort of referee in every dispute that comes up between groups with differing opinions or beliefs - they need to set up and maintain a free and open forum for these groups to discuss their differences, and then they need to get out of the way. Basically, I feel that the majority of the policies of the Democrats revolve around using the government to establish what they believe to be social justice (whether or not it actually is is not relevant to this particular argument), when in my opinion establishing social justice is the responsibility of the people, not the legislature. The impression I get is that many people with Democrat leanings feel that the government can somehow solve all the problems with society and the individuals within it. Is that right? Is that wrong? Your call. My point is that I personally don't agree. I definitely don't agree with the entirety of what Republicans have to say either, though. I don't feel the government's job is to preserve the status quo and keep shiny new things coming to smiling, traditional middle-class families while the rest of the world has to deal with starvation, poverty, terrorism, and religious persecution. I happen to come from a 'traditional' middle-class family, and I will probably have a 'traditional' middle-class family of my own. But I don't think that the Republicans' policies are doing enough for the needy in this country and around the world. But, I feel the Republicans have a conception of the role of government and the realization of social justice that lines up more cleanly with my own than does that of the Democrats. As for other issues, I have personal beliefs about abortion, gay rights, gun control, separation of Church and State, and just about anything else that's bandied about nowadays. Sometimes I'll go with one party, sometimes I'll go with another. I've said many times that I don't believe a party line should be a substitute for a conscience. You need to know what's going on in your country, you need to understand what potential leaders have to say about it, and you need to be able to cast an informed, conscientious vote based on what you believe - and I don't think a party affiliation is required for any of those. But the majority of the time, I find myself agreeing with what Republicans have to say - if only as the lesser of two evils. I don't want a government that will rubber-stamp what I believe and keep others from expressing different opinions. But I don't want a government that aggressively advocates things I believe are not right, and there are just too many things Democrats believe that I don't for me to call myself one of them. That's my thoughts. Sorry for giving you a short novel. 
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I'm with Sammitch, I don't get party lines. At all. What's the point? It's self-limiting.
I think there should just be two voting periods. One period to narrow down all those who applied to a good, solid number(4 or 5, perhaps). Then, the Presidential election. No party lines, no group telling its people who to vote for, decide for yourself.
Labels and affiliations just bias voters towards a particular group. It's a way for the few in power to control the ignorant masses. Force the people to vote on the issues, on the values, not on the party.
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In this neck of the woods, I'm a centrist with conservative tendencies: socially liberal, fiscally very conservative. I'd vote for the right wing party here in Australia if not for their immigration policies.
Politics in the States is skewed to the right, though, compared to most democracies, so by American standards I'd be a liberal Democrat.
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Republican, of course. I've always been a conservative guy, and the modern Democratic party gives me the wilies about their misplaced priorities. The Dems of FDR and Truman and up through JFK were good men, but the modern party is too focused on America-bashing and abortion on demand for my tastes...
And Reagan kicked ass, thank you very much!
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Republican, of course. I've always been a conservative guy, and the modern Democratic party gives me the wilies about their misplaced priorities. The Dems of FDR and Truman and up through JFK were good men, but the modern party is too focused on America-bashing and abortion on demand for my tastes...
And Reagan kicked ass, thank you very much!
We should start a thread about Reagan. He was absolutely demonised outside the US, you know, on foreign policy. The first time I found out that he was held in high regard by many Americans, I was absolutely astonished.
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I didn't care for his 2 terms but feel bad that he's in poor health.
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Republican, of course. I've always been a conservative guy, and the modern Democratic party gives me the wilies about their misplaced priorities. The Dems of FDR and Truman and up through JFK were good men, but the modern party is too focused on America-bashing and abortion on demand for my tastes...
And Reagan kicked ass, thank you very much!
We should start a thread about Reagan. He was absolutely demonised outside the US, you know, on foreign policy. The first time I found out that he was held in high regard by many Americans, I was absolutely astonished.
which is usaully a sign of a good president, it usually means he looked out for our interests above others.
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Ronald Reagan was the original choice for Humphrey Bogart's role in Casablanca.
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I think he's held in high regard by white people, heh. Take a poll of everyone else and I think you'd get a much different idea, though.
Just look at Bastie's comments earlier.
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i dunno i know several black people and they hold him in high regard, the people who dont are usualyy wishy washy bleeding heart liberals......
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I don't think I've ever met a black person that's held Reagan in high regard. Bastard seemed to think anyone who thought Reagan was a great President wasn't really aware of what was going on during the 80's. Is he a "bleeding heart liberal"?
If we're going to make generalizations, the only people I've known personally that held Reagan in a really high regard were white trash Southerners, but I suppose in Texas that's to be expected.
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then you dont get out much, ive met lots of people that think he was great, also i dont think you win a landslide re-election based on not being popular.....
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Republican, of course. I've always been a conservative guy, and the modern Democratic party gives me the wilies about their misplaced priorities. The Dems of FDR and Truman and up through JFK were good men, but the modern party is too focused on America-bashing and abortion on demand for my tastes...
And Reagan kicked ass, thank you very much!
We should start a thread about Reagan. He was absolutely demonised outside the US, you know, on foreign policy. The first time I found out that he was held in high regard by many Americans, I was absolutely astonished.
which is usaully a sign of a good president, it usually means he looked out for our interests above others.
No way. Foreigners hold JFK in high regard, for playing chicken with the Soviets. I think Truman, Eisenhower, Carter (save for the hostage debacle) and especially FDR were all excellent leaders.
Carter is probably the best example. He brokered a peace between Israel and Egypt. That's good for the world economy, whcih means Americans get jobs.
I liked Clinton for trying (but failing ) to get the Israelis and Palestinians to reach a peaceful resolution fo thier troubles.
But Reagan was always portrayed abroad as a second rate cowboy actor who was senile, who had an administration run by his wife and her astrologer. I liked Reagan's economics (the medicine was too harshly delivered), and like the fact that he refused to raise taxes because he wanted to stick to his word. That takes political and fiscal courage. Ask anyone else overseas about that, though, and they'll not have heard of it.
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then you dont get out much, ive met lots of people that think he was great
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I didn't say he wasn't popular. I said he was popular with a fairly specific group of people(the group that occupies the biggest section of the weighted voting populace).
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then you dont get out much, ive met lots of people that think he was great
Then you know a lot of white trash.
odd that you try to act like your this high ground guy, but you label people who liked regan as white trash. on top of that you totally ignore the fact that ive said i know several black people that think he was a great president, should i inform them that they are white trash? it will come as a suprise to their parents.
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i guess in a way you proved my stement that you dont get out much, because ive met several black people that liked regan and in your limited world experience youve only met white trash that has.
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I made a generalization because I thought that's what this whole thread was about. All people who hate Reagan are bleeding heart liberals, right?
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Thanks but I think you could use it yourself. Holding your nose when you sneeze kills braincells.
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