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Anyone else interested in this movie? It looks pretty good.


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I'm gonna wait 'til I hear some stuff from critics before I go watch this one. It looks interesting, but I'm not sold yet.

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Some critics have already seen it and they say its pretty good. I'm hoping they show all the crazy shit Hughes did when he was older.


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That would pretty much ensure my seeing it. Hughes did some crazy-ass shit when he got up there in years...

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I heard it was going to focus on Hughes' younger years, and leave the sad, weird mental problems of his old age out of the film.

I'm particularly looking forward to seeing Kate Beckinsdale playing Ava Gardner, Cate Blanchett as Katherine Hepburn, and gorgeous GWEN STEFANI as Jean Harlow!

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Was this the only aviator thread?

Anyhow, I just saw it. Great movie. There's a scene near the beginning where Howard Hughes is filming a dogfight that is absolutely amazing. This guy was truly amazing, sure he had his low points but he did so much for aviation. Leonardo Dicaprio was amazing in this movie. I would even go as far as to say he's one of the best their is.


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I thought DiCaprio was a lot better in this than he was in Gangs of New York(which I thought he was terrible in), but he's still a massively overrated actor, in my opinion. The only movie I've been able to stand him in was Catch Me If You Can(which I liked a lot).

Overall, I was somewhat underwhelmed by the story, though the technical aspects of the film are all superb. Scorcese is a great visual director, I just wish he picked better parts of the Howard Hughes story to tell. I'd put Aviator in my top ten of the year, but probably not top five.


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I really liked this movie.

I went into it thinking that I wouldn't be able to accept DiCaprio as Hughes but I thought he did an excellent job.

One thing about the movie I thought of as I watched it: has something changed about America that we no longer idolize inventors, industrialists and scientists?

In the early part of the 20th century (and the latter part of the 19th century) the American public looked up to, and made celebrities out of people who actually produced something: Thomas Edison, Henry Ford, Howard Hughes, etc., were as much celebrities as Rudolf Valentino, Clark Gable and Jimmy Stewart.

Now, with the possible exception of Bill Gates, our heroes are people who either performers, athletes or professional politicians. People who either entertain us or tax us, instead of produce new inventions for us.

It used to be that producing something tangible was as great a human accomplishment as we might imagine. Now it's an excuse to call someone a corporate shill while we turn our attention to someone who playacts for a living.

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It might be because there are so many people producing so many things that few individuals stand out.


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the G-man said:
In the early part of the 20th century (and the latter part of the 19th century) the American public looked up to, and made celebrities out of people who actually produced something: Thomas Edison, Henry Ford, Howard Hughes, etc., were as much celebrities as Rudolf Valentino, Clark Gable and Jimmy Stewart.




Thats one of the things I really likes about the movie. He was someone who completely changed aviation for the better.


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One thing about the movie I thought of as I watched it: has something changed about America that we no longer idolize inventors, industrialists and scientists?




It's called 'postmodernism'.

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One thing about the movie I thought of as I watched it: has something changed about America that we no longer idolize inventors, industrialists and scientists?




We know more about them as people now. When you see their flaws, there's less to idolize.

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In the early part of the 20th century (and the latter part of the 19th century) the American public looked up to, and made celebrities out of people who actually produced something: Thomas Edison, Henry Ford, Howard Hughes, etc., were as much celebrities as Rudolf Valentino, Clark Gable and Jimmy Stewart.




I'm not idoloizing or advocating idolizing Henry Ford. Man was an infamous anti-Semite.


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I'm not idoloizing or advocating idolizing Henry Ford. Man was an infamous anti-Semite.




Good point.

I was, however, simply using Ford as one example of the type of industrialist who used to be as big a celebrity as they come.


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