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Teen Sues Over Confederate Flag Dress
U.S. National - APLEXINGTON, Ky. - A teenager is suing her school district for barring her from the prom last spring because she was wearing a dress styled as a large Confederate battle flag.
The lawsuit filed Monday in U.S. District Court claims the Greenup County district and administrators violated Jacqueline Duty's First Amendment right to free speech and her right to celebrate her heritage at predominantly white Russell High School's prom May 1. She also is suing for defamation, false imprisonment and assault.
"Her only dance for her senior prom was on the sidewalk to a song playing on the radio," said her lawyer, Earl-Ray Neal.
Duty, 19, is seeking actual and punitive damages in excess of $50,000.
She said she worked on the design for the dress for four years, though she acknowledged that some might find the Confederate flag offensive.
"Everyone has their own opinion. But that's not mine," she told reporters outside the courthouse. "I'm proud of where I came from and my background."
Duty, now a college student, said school officials told her before the prom not to wear the dress, but she didn't have another one and decided to see if administrators would change their minds.
According to her lawsuit, she was met outside by two police officers and principal Sean Howard. She said the principal intimidated her by striking the vehicle she was in.
School offices were closed Wednesday. Superintendent Ronnie Back did not immediately respond to a call to his home seeking comment.
The Sons of Confederate Veterans has promised to help pay some of her legal expenses.
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Could this case be any more white trash? Why did she wear the dress in the first place?
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It's damn true!
Seriously, though, there's too much fuss over the Confederate flag. It doesn't stand for slavery, or rednecks, or any of that stuff. Very few Confederates owned slaves.
Anyway, she should've just said the dress was an homage to The Dukes of Hazzard.
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I hate to use this analogy since it always stirs an excessive amount of passion but...
couldn't you also argue that a person wearing a dress of the Nazi swastika is merely celebrating their German heritage?
Anywhoo....
...any time ANY issue regarding the Confederate flag comes up I feel the need to state.
The confederacy was a rebellion against The Untied States of America. To me, heritage, slavery, bigotry, or whatever notwithstanding, the Confederate flag to me represents treason. And I for one am sick of southerners, some 150+ years after the fact, still reveling, waxing nostalgic, and looking fondly back on their treasonous rebellion (and the symbols of that treason) and the subsequent deaths of thousands of American soldiers (and one President) that their forefathers treason caused.
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I didn't understand the emotion involved in the confederate flag until I visited Nashville last year. There are some people that take great pride in that part of American history. Is it a symbol of slavery? To some yes and to other no. Should kids wear it as a dress to school dances? I think they shouldn't. Does she have the right to? Yes. I personally think it would be a bad idea because so many people would be offended by it. Wearing this dress to a school function is making it a statement. She meant to cause an uproar about it. That is why she's suing the school district. She purposely did this to get attention and money.
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I didn't understand the emotion involved in the confederate flag until I visited Nashville last year. There are some people that take great pride in that part of American history. Is it a symbol of slavery? To some yes and to other no. Should kids wear it as a dress to school dances? I think they shouldn't. Does she have the right to? Yes. I personally think it would be a bad idea because so many people would be offended by it. Wearing this dress to a school function is making it a statement. She meant to cause an uproar about it. That is why she's suing the school district. She purposely did this to get attention and money.
I agree with this. Personally speaking, I think she had every right to, and everybody else had the right to not speak to her afterwards.
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I think I've mentioned it before, but here is my take on the confederate flag:
At some point, whether you want it to or not, certain symbols, words or actions take on a meaning of their own.
For example, prior to 1930s Germany, the Roman salute was just that, a military salute. We even used to use it here in the US when we said the pledge.
However, at some point, Hitler co-opted it into the Heil Hitler salute and we realized it now meant something different. No one tries to salute the flag like that anymore.
The confederate flag is the same thing. At one point, to a lot of people, it meant simply being "a rebel" or "southern heritage." And maybe it could still be.
However, watch the KKK or some other white supremicist group march or appear on TV and they have that flag. They have co-opted it to their own racist message. And its too hard to separate that.
So, even though there are a lot of people out there who honestly believe it means one-innoculous-thing, I think we need to realize that it now means another.
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The confederacy was a rebellion against The Untied States of America. To me, heritage, slavery, bigotry, or whatever notwithstanding, the Confederate flag to me represents treason. And I for one am sick of southerners, some 150+ years after the fact, still reveling, waxing nostalgic, and looking fondly back on their treasonous rebellion (and the symbols of that treason) and the subsequent deaths of thousands of American soldiers (and one President) that their forefathers treason caused.
Then you better stow away that American flag. After all, it was made by a bunch of rebels who committed treason against the British Empire. And that treason caused a lot of deaths too. Damn George Washington and Benjamin Franklin's hides.
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I think I've mentioned it before, but here is my take on the confederate flag:
At some point, whether you want it to or not, certain symbols, words or actions take on a meaning of their own.
For example, prior to 1930s Germany, the Roman salute was just that, a military salute. We even used to use it here in the US when we said the pledge.
However, at some point, Hitler co-opted it into the Heil Hitler salute and we realized it now meant something different. No one tries to salute the flag like that anymore.
The confederate flag is the same thing. At one point, to a lot of people, it meant simply being "a rebel" or "southern heritage." And maybe it could still be.
However, watch the KKK or some other white supremicist group march or appear on TV and they have that flag. They have co-opted it to their own racist message. And its too hard to separate that.
So, even though there are a lot of people out there who honestly believe it means one-innoculous-thing, I think we need to realize that it now means another.
The German people themselves rejected those symbols (the swastika being speffically brought in by Hilter to represent his Third Riech). They did it to seperate themselves from a genocidal nutbag.
People in the South who still fly the Stars and Bars mostly come from a line of people who never accepted the idea that it was associated with slavery or racism (which it wasn't until the KKK began flying it in the 30's). They instead have the view of it that their parents and grandparents did: That it represented people who stood up for themselves. Just as anyone who may look at the Stars and Stripes or any Revolutionary War memorial might think about those. Is it better for them to just give up and let the pressure of an ignorant or stubborn sect of society tell them how to think? Or should they have the right to express their beliefs and educate people one their view of the flag? Since I have to leave for an eight hour drive in just a bit, I think I'll finish off with one of Bobo's best quotes: "People don't want freedom of speech. They want freedom of their speech." (It might not be exact since I'm going off the top of my head. And the capital letters are mine.)
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The confederacy was a rebellion against The Untied States of America. To me, heritage, slavery, bigotry, or whatever notwithstanding, the Confederate flag to me represents treason. And I for one am sick of southerners, some 150+ years after the fact, still reveling, waxing nostalgic, and looking fondly back on their treasonous rebellion (and the symbols of that treason) and the subsequent deaths of thousands of American soldiers (and one President) that their forefathers treason caused.
Then you better stow away that American flag. After all, it was made by a bunch of rebels who committed treason against the British Empire. And that treason caused a lot of deaths too. Damn George Washington and Benjamin Franklin's hides.
That'd make more sense to me if we'd had lost the Revolutionary War. It would also make more sense if we had lost and the flag was then subsequently co-opted by racist nutbags.
Y'know Helter Skelter isn't really about mass murder and a race war. It's the name of an amusement park slide in England, thus the references to a slide in the first part of the song.
charles manson believed that the beatles were sending him messages through their songs. he saw a race-war coming up between blacks and whites - of which he preached to his disciples, the so called "manson family".
he gave this war the name "helter-skelter" named after the song.
in the song he heard machineguns and pigs. when he realized, that his "helter-skelter-war" wouldn´t start, he decided to start it by himself. he went out with the family to commit the murders. the murderers stole a wallet in the polanski´s house and it was dropped in a toilet in a petrol-station in a "black area". then - so he thought -the war would start. he believed, that the blacks would win the war and kill all the white population. he and his family would escape and hide under the earth surface in the "bottomless pit" (described in the bible) which he saw located in death valley. after a long period of time the children of the family would arise out of the bottomless pit, kill all the blacks and then rule the world.
So despite the best intentions of the Beatles and music loving people who know better, Helter Skelter will forever be tied to the Tate/La Bianca murders. The meaning of 'Helter Skelter' has changed.
So if a kid went around school scribbling 'Helter Skelter' on his folders and on the bathroom walls, i'm sure we wouldn't assume he was expressing his longing for earlier childhood pleasures.
And sure, the kid could argue that no, he wasn't a nutbag who admires the killings and/or racist subtext of the Manson family. After all, 'it's just a song by the Beatles about a playground slide'. That would most certainly be disingenuous though to anyone with common sense. Even though the kid is absolutely right.
Same with the Confederate flag and it's racist connotation.
I can actually extend this to include the way the word "liberal" has been co-opted by conservatives as a pejorative as well, but I digress.........
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The confederacy was a rebellion against The Untied States of America. To me, heritage, slavery, bigotry, or whatever notwithstanding, the Confederate flag to me represents treason. And I for one am sick of southerners, some 150+ years after the fact, still reveling, waxing nostalgic, and looking fondly back on their treasonous rebellion (and the symbols of that treason) and the subsequent deaths of thousands of American soldiers (and one President) that their forefathers treason caused.
Then you better stow away that American flag. After all, it was made by a bunch of rebels who committed treason against the British Empire. And that treason caused a lot of deaths too. Damn George Washington and Benjamin Franklin's hides.
I don't want anyone to be frightened, but Whomods coments (before being sick of southerners) sum up my feeling exactly. As far as The Dr.'s comments your exactly right in that if we had lost the American flag wouldn't be permitted as a state flag, but we didn't, we won. If the Nazis had won then we'd see alot more swastikas on national flags, but they didn't, they lost and hence the swastika is absent from all government sactioned flags.
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Don't forget how the word "gay" used to mean "happy" and generally had a positive association.
Nowadays if someone uses the original meaning on themselves they get beaten and bound to a wooden fencepost.
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heck, the swastika isn't even a nazi symbol by origin, it was the symbol of a religious order of healing or something, basically a symbol of benevolence and healing.
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So, you all have reaffirmed what I have been saying. Misinformation and ignorance should be allowed to run rampant. Thank you all very much. Don't forget to throw away your American flags and crosses since the racist KKK uses those symbols as well making them all stand for racism.
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heck, the swastika isn't even a nazi symbol by origin, it was the symbol of a religious order of healing or something, basically a symbol of benevolence and healing.
We can make it so again. All of us just need to wear a swastika wherever we go.
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heck, the swastika isn't even a nazi symbol by origin, it was the symbol of a religious order of healing or something, basically a symbol of benevolence and healing.
no more!
The healing swastika goes in the opposite direction than the Nazi swastika.
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You are a true self-righteous fuckwit.
Coming from you, that means......... well, absolutely nothing.
The point I'm trying to put forth is that it's ignorant to just simply accept something based on mass misinterpretation. The same argument that whomod and the others are using now can be used in twenty years when someone writes the history books saying the entire population of Iraq and Afghanistan were terrorist and Islam stands for terrorism because fundamentalists used it as the excuse to bomb and kill.
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A high school student in Missouri who wanted to celebrate Southern culture at a school multicultural assembly by unfurling a Confederate flag was told that's not the sort of culture his school wants to celebrate and unceremoniously removed from the assembly, according to the Columbia Missourian. Ryan Lanman and a friend at Hickman High School in Columbia, Mo. were kicked out of school for raising the flag during a presentation of the "Yellow Rose of Texas." He said he merely wanted to openly support a multicultural group that is under-represented and ignored in school. Other students said the act was racist. Junior Taneka Jackson said the action "really hurt me, seriously hurt me" and that it was inappropriate at a multicultural assembly meant to celebrate different cultures. "It was a disrespect to everyone in there," she said.
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<p>A high school student in Missouri who wanted to celebrate Southern culture at a school multicultural assembly by unfurling a Confederate flag was told that's not the sort of culture his school wants to celebrate and unceremoniously removed from the assembly, <a href="http://columbiamissourian.com/news/story.php?ID=18197">according to the Columbia Missourian</a>.</p><p>Ryan Lanman and a friend at Hickman High School in Columbia, Mo. were kicked out of school for raising the flag during a presentation of the "Yellow Rose of Texas." He said he merely wanted to openly support a multicultural group that is under-represented and ignored in school.</p><p>Other students said the act was racist. Junior Taneka Jackson said the action "really hurt me, seriously hurt me" and that it was inappropriate at a multicultural assembly meant to celebrate different cultures. "It was a disrespect to everyone in there," she said.</p>
That's ridiculous. There was and still is a distinct Southern culture in the USA. Pretending that the Confederacy didn't happen is a denial of our own history. Flying the Stars & Bars over the state house is one thing but celebrating Southern culture at a school assembly is another. There was more to the Southern cause than just slavery. (He wrote while whistling Dixie)
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Fiddle dee dee. The Confederates were only equipped with slaves, arrogance, and cotton.
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<p>A high school student in Missouri who wanted to celebrate Southern culture at a school multicultural assembly by unfurling a Confederate flag was told that's not the sort of culture his school wants to celebrate and unceremoniously removed from the assembly, <a href="http://columbiamissourian.com/news/story.php?ID=18197">according to the Columbia Missourian</a>.</p><p>Ryan Lanman and a friend at Hickman High School in Columbia, Mo. were kicked out of school for raising the flag during a presentation of the "Yellow Rose of Texas." He said he merely wanted to openly support a multicultural group that is under-represented and ignored in school.</p><p>Other students said the act was racist. Junior Taneka Jackson said the action "really hurt me, seriously hurt me" and that it was inappropriate at a multicultural assembly meant to celebrate different cultures. "It was a disrespect to everyone in there," she said.</p>
That's ridiculous. There was and still is a distinct Southern culture in the USA. Pretending that the Confederacy didn't happen is a denial of our own history. Flying the Stars & Bars over the state house is one thing but celebrating Southern culture at a school assembly is another. There was more to the Southern cause than just slavery. (He wrote while whistling Dixie)
Well, I'll be damned!
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Joined: Aug 2005
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2500+ posts
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2500+ posts
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,993 Likes: 1 |
Does anyone have their history book present? Good. Now open it to the page where they talk about the Civil War and read about how slavery was not actually the cause of the war. State's rights and a president elected without winning a single southern state were among the causes of the war. Slavery was indeed a catalyst, but the war would have happened anyways. Abolition of slavery was a byproduct of the war and is now used to make the war seem more noble and less complicated.
In other news, America did not enter World War II to free the Holocaust victims.
Reveling in the knowledge that Sammitch will never interrupt my nookie ever again.
112,000 RACK Points!
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