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From the Associated Press: Lions stalking deer in the stubble of a Nebraska cornfield. Elephants trumpeting across Colorado’s high plains. Cheetah slouching through the West Texas scrub.
Prominent ecologists are floating an audacious plan that sounds like a “Jumanji” sequel — transplant African wildlife to the Great Plains of North America.
Their radical proposal is greeted with gasps and groans from other scientists and conservationists who recall previous efforts to relocate foreign species halfway around the world, often with disastrous results.
The authors contend it could help save Africa’s poster species from extinction, where protection is spotty and habitat is vanishing.
“We aren’t backing a truck up to some dump site in the dark and turning lose a bunch of elephants,” said Cornell University ecologist Harry W. Greene, one of the plan’s authors.
While most modern African species never lived on the American prairie, the scientists think today’s animals could duplicate the natural roles played by their departed, even larger cousins — mastodons, camels and saber-toothed cats — that roamed for more than 1 million years alongside antelope and bison.
But the scientists’ plan, which appears in today’s issue of the journal Nature, is triggering thunderclaps of criticism, with discouraging words such as “stupid” and “defeatist” raining down.
Critics point to Australia, which was overrun by rabbits and poisonous cane toads after misguided species relocations.
Some conservationists said the plan would further damage the prospects of African species on their native turf, as well as that continent’s hopes for sustainable economic development.
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We have a really really big problem with cane toads. Damn things are indestructible.
Big herbivores are a good idea though. While elephants cause serious damage to forests and hippos are violent and territorial, giraffes, antelopes, and zebras should be fine.
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Of course, if you bring in giraffes, antelopes, and zebras w/o predators. they'll probably overrun the native herbiviores like deer, Buffalo, etc.
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This just does not sound like a good plan.
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We have a really really big problem with cane toads. Damn things are indestructible.
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This just does not sound like a good plan.
Yeah, for some reason, all I can think of is the scientists in movies like "Jurassic Park" telling us how "nothing can go wrong" right before it all goes to hell.
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We have a really really big problem with cane toads. Damn things are indestructible.
I fuckin' hear that. I had to live in Hawaii and Arizona for awhile. Friggin' breeding grounds for cain toads. They almost killed my dog.
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This just does not sound like a good plan.
Yeah, for some reason, all I can think of is the scientists in movies like "Jurassic Park" telling us how "nothing can go wrong" right before it all goes to hell.
They killed lawyer in that one, you know.
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At which point it all went to hell, remember?
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It was on its way before that.
But you know...I was thinking...this move to the Great Plains of various African animals...it might be necessary if we are to preseve these species on the planet. If they and their habitats are being systematically destroyed in Africa, perhaps this is a means of preserving the species.
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And there's plenty of Christians to feed them!
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And there's plenty of Christians to feed them!
Send them to San Francisco! We could use them to clean out the last vestiges of Christians here! Mop 'em up and we can all fuck each other in peace!
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