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FMRyan420: hey! is G'Nort gonna appear in JLAvengers?
DCOMCarlin: No.
FMRyan420: oKay bye then!
DCOMCarlin: Bye


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He's gonna get a personal protection order soon Fox.

Bwahahaha...


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Here's the rest of the convo:

FMRyan420: hey! is G'Nort gonna appear in JLAvengers?

DCOMCarlin: No.

FMRyan420: oKay bye then!

DCOMCarlin: Bye

FMRyan420: Hmmm, I heard that every ex-member of the JLA was gonna at least make a cameo?

DCOMCarlin: Listen, F... this isn't funny to me anymore. Please stop writing me.

DCOMCarlin: It's Saturday... I'm off duty... and I've TRIED to be nice!

DCOMCarlin: Bye... means bye!

FMRyan420: When are you on duty?

DCOMCarlin: And if Gnort is in it I'll take him out now!

DCOMCarlin: Don't write me IMs anymore!

DCOMCarlin: You really don't know when to quit, do you?

FMRyan420: Dude I'm not tryin' to be mean or nothin'. I've left you alone for awhile, but I had heard that every ex-member of the JLA was gonna appear, so that's why I asked you.

DCOMCarlin: You are not being mean... yer being an asshole. G'Nort is NOT a major player and he never will be... deal with it! DUDE!

DCOMCarlin: You really don't get how annoying you are, do you?

FMRyan420: Why are you callin' me that when I just asked a simple question? Like I said after yer last e-mail to me I decided to leave ya alone cuz it seemed you didn't like talkin' G'Nort. But then I heard this thing about JLAvengers

DCOMCarlin: "Left me alone for a while?" Try being civilised and not assume that IMs are welcome.

DCOMCarlin: But then you AREN'T leaving me alone.

DCOMCarlin: Don't you see?

FMRyan420: Anyway, your SN does include "DCO", which, if I'm not mistaken, means "DC Online", right?

FMRyan420: So why can't I ask you DC related questions?

FMRyan420: ?

DCOMCarlin: Right. So send a letter... snail mail or e-mail.

DCOMCarlin: It IS presumptuous to IM... especially when I've asked you not to before!

FMRyan420: Okay then, from now on I won't IM ya anymore. But calling me names isn't very nice.

DCOMCarlin: Right... but badgering people isn't nice either!

DCOMCarlin: Makes me an asshole too I guess!

FMRyan420: lol

FMRyan420: sorry okey dokey i'll e-mail ya about the JLAvengers thing

DCOMCarlin: I just answered you.

DCOMCarlin: Then you said BYE... and kept writing.

FMRyan420: So the answer is "no", and if it's actually yes, then you will take him out? Is that correct?

DCOMCarlin: Why can't ya just flip through it when it comes out in 2 or 3 years?

DCOMCarlin: What's the rush to ruin the thrill fer yerself?

FMRyan420: Well at the DCMB, I made this thread called "The G'Nort Club", and I just wanted some confirmation to see if G'Nort would be in it or not. That's all, ya know?

FMRyan420: I was gonna post it and let the other fans know if a cameo was in place.

DCOMCarlin: Not gonna tell ya. How's that. Rather folks checked out the book in a few years!

DCOMCarlin: WHY? Why ruin it for EVERYONE?!

FMRyan420: Ruin? I doubt them knowin' if G'Nort's gonna appear will ruin it. After all, the JLAvengers thing should be quite a hit with or w/o G'Nort!

FMRyan420: []

DCOMCarlin: My point exactly... so save some fun for when the book comes out.

FMRyan420: Okey dokey. Sorry again for IMin' ya. But, if I do have any questions, ya don't mind if I e-mail ya?

DCOMCarlin: I only mind if you fight with me about my answers to you. And sometimes I'm not gonna tell ya stuff that will ruin ANYONE's fun!

DCOMCarlin: You also should tell folks that what they're sending you privately is going to be used publicly!

FMRyan420: hmmm?

FMRyan420: ?

DCOMCarlin: What? What don't ya get?

FMRyan420: DCOMCarlin: You also should tell folks that what they're sending you privately is going to be used publicly!

FMRyan420: hmmm?

DCOMCarlin: You ask me for info... but you don't tell me it's for publication elsewhere.

FMRyan420: publication for where?

DCOMCarlin: Your public newsgroup.

FMRyan420: The G'Nort Club?

DCOMCarlin: That's other people right?

FMRyan420: Yah but it's a thread on the message boards. Not like a newsgroup.

FMRyan420: Although, newsgroup is an interesting way to put it.

DCOMCarlin: It's not private. If I do YOU a favor... it's nice to know I'm doing 50 people a favor (OR ruining something for them)!

FMRyan420: Oh don't worry there are only about 4 or 5 regulars at the G'Nort Club. not 50.

FMRyan420: Have you ever actually been to the DC boards?

DCOMCarlin: Okay... whatever, F... still most people who ask us questions tell us what they'll do with the info. It MIGHT change the answer!

DCOMCarlin: I sure have... which is why it's nice to know what I write to you is going there!

FMRyan420: Would you rather me not post my info about you talkin' G'Nort on the G'Nort Club?

DCOMCarlin: Of course... because I think that if folks like G'Nort they might like to discover or be surprised in the books themselves! Why does everything have to be public knowledge before it's published?

DCOMCarlin: And why am I spending this much time explaining what everyone else already knows. Most fans don't just presume to IM

DCOMCarlin: Okay. F... common courtesy and consideration in the future, 'kay... and I won't think those bad words about ya no more!

FMRyan420: I don't think everything has to be public knowledge before it's published.

DCOMCarlin: Then don't post info just cause ya have it!

FMRyan420: Oh well I only post G'Nort related info that I have.

DCOMCarlin: Thanks for understanding... and I'm cutting out now.

FMRyan420: Okey dokey see ya!

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LOL!!
Dude,you are such a stalker. I think Carlin will be scared to check his computer for fear of a giant G'Nort head showing up on-screen.

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dude....
You gotta leave that guy alone...

Mike Carlin is the guy who killed Superman...
You bother him enough he's gonna kill off G'Nort forever... You don't want to be the guy that got G'Nort killed do you?

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INTER-OFFICE MEMO

Dear Mr Winnick and GL team:

Please resereve 3 panels or less of the next issue of GL.
You are to re-introduce G'Nort and then proceed to terminate him.
Terminate.
TERMINATE WITH...E X T R E M E...PREDJUDICE !!!!!!

sincerly,
MIKE CARLIN: The guy who killed Superman.

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you should write him an apology stating that you are a mentally challenged 8 year old.
Maybe he'll feel sorry and lift the ban on G'Nort. Or at the very least not take revenge on you and Mr G'N....


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But G'Nort was never IN........


the Justice League of America.


he was a member of the Justice League of Antarctica, and the upcoming crossover is not a JLAntarctica/Avengers crossover, its a JLAmerica/Avengers crossover.


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Ah,but JLAntarctica was a branch of JLInternational,which had teams like JLEurope & JLAmerica as well as JLAntarctica.Therefore he was,for all intents & purposes,a member.Doesn't matter how brief or what the circumstances were.Just like Captain Marvel will be considered a member.Even though he was only one for the firsr seven issues of JL back in '87,he's still considered a former member.

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quote:
Originally posted by allan1:
Ah,but JLAntarctica was a branch of JLInternational,which had teams like JLEurope & JLAmerica as well as JLAntarctica.Therefore he was,for all intents & purposes,a member.


No it doesn't!

Alan Scott is a member of the JSA, the JSA has teamed with the JLA, that doesn't make Alan Scott a member of the JLA!


Thats like saying for all "intents and purposes" the New York Rangers (hockey) are members of the New York Knicks (basketball) because they are both owned by the same parent company!


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But a Leaguer is a Leaguer whether a JLAm,JLE or JLAn.They all got issued JLI communicators.They all had access to the same Embassies.If J'Onn transported over to France & joined the JLE on a mission he's still part of the League.If Rocket Red did the same over in America,he's still in the League.If G'Nort showed up in Brazil along with,say Flash & Batman & there was a mission it'd be a League affair even though all three were from different branches.

It's like being a member of the GL Corps.You're assigned a different sector from another GL but you report to OA just like all the others & are all part of the same team.Even though G'Nort was assigned an uninhabited sector & was considered inept,he was still a GL.Even though him & the members of JLAnt. were sent to a remote embassy,they were still considered League members,reasons & length of time served notwithstanding.

You can revoke his League membership,kick him out,banish him from all League functions but he still would have been a member of the League.


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They all got issued, JLI communicators, not JLA communicators. If J'onn transported to the land of surrender and joined the JLE, then he was a member of the JLE. Not the JLA, the JLE.

That's like saying if you join the army, you're part of the air force.


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Well,I did join the Air Force & was subjected to the same rules,regulation,protocols as a guy who joined the Army.Different branches but all falling under the U.S. Military.Everybody gets the same type of Military I.D. card just printed with what branch of service you belong to.We answered to the same Commander-in-Chief and so on.Let's look at past League structure in this vein.

Commander-in-Chief-Maxwell Lord
Joint Chiefs(Leaders of various branches.Aswerable only to Max)-J'Onn J'onzz(JLAm),Captain Atom(JLE) & G'Nort(JLAnt)
Branches of service.JLAm,JLE,JLAnt

Say you're a European hero & want to join the League.You go to a JLE Embassy & apply.You interview with Captain Atom then transport to the states for an interview with J'onn & Max.If approved you're put on a probationary membership assigned to Cap Atom & the JLE.If during that time you relocate to the States,you'd be assigned to the JLA.It doesn't matter what branch you served in,you're still considered a League member.

AS for my comunicator...cut me a break,it was after midnight


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quote:
Originally posted by allan1:
Well,I did join the Air Force & was subjected to the same rules,regulation,protocols as a guy who joined the Army.Different branches but all falling under the U.S. Military.Everybody gets the same type of Military I.D. card just printed with what branch of service you belong to.We answered to the same Commander-in-Chief and so on.Let's look at past League structure in this vein.

Commander-in-Chief-Maxwell Lord
Joint Chiefs(Leaders of various branches.Aswerable only to Max)-J'Onn J'onzz(JLAm),Captain Atom(JLE) & G'Nort(JLAnt)
Branches of service.JLAm,JLE,JLAnt

Say you're a European hero & want to join the League.You go to a JLE Embassy & apply.You interview with Captain Atom then transport to the states for an interview with J'onn & Max.If approved you're put on a probationary membership assigned to Cap Atom & the JLE.If during that time you relocate to the States,you'd be assigned to the JLA.It doesn't matter what branch you served in,you're still considered a League member.

AS for my comunicator...cut me a break,it was after midnight



1. If you really had joined the Air Force (skeptic here), you would have had the same rules and regs as people in the army, same type of I.D. card, but you wouldn't actually be IN the army.
2. You're right, you'd answer to the same person. DIFFERENT GROUPS answering the same person. Just like how the JLAmerica and JLAntarctica are DIFFERENT GROUPS.


but a JLI or a JLA league member because while one is a parent group to another, they are still 2 different groups.

Just like how lets say, you're transfered from human resources to accounting. If you're in human resources, you can't be in accounting and if you're in accounting, you can't be in human resources.


Just because G'Nort was a member of the JLAntarctica doesn't make him a member of the JLAmerica.

If it did, they'd put him in the upcoming jla/avengers crossover which they AREN'T doing.


Bottom line.


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No need to be a skeptic.I only tell the truth.I served from 31 Jan 90-5 May 92.Stationed at Castle AFB CA outside of Atwater/Merced CA.I was a Medical Service Specialist.My tech school training was at Sheppard AFB in Witchita Falls TX & my clinical was at Offut AFB(at the time SAC headquarters)Omaha NE.When I was discharged my rank was E-3(Airman 1st Class). And yes G'Nort was not a member of JLAmerica but he was member of JLInternational(by way of JLAntarctica) along with about 500 other guest stars that will be showing up in JLAvengers.
I suppose this will just be chalked up to agree to disagree.I belive G'Nort was a League member,you don't.Whether he shows up or not is irrelevant to me.I think he should but then again,I'm neither writing or drawing the book so what I feel or think doesn't matter one iota to those involved.
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Ok, so Powergirl was only in JLE and never in JLA, so she should not be in the Avengers crossover, mind you, just like G'Nort?

Well, I bet she will be in the Crossover.


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G'Nort was a member of the JLAntartica. Therefore, a Justice League member.

Now like Eurostar says, if Power Girl is in the crossover, then G'Nort should be too.


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Gnort was a member of a branch of the Justice League. End of story. He should be there.

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oh really?


Power Girl was never in the JLA?


So that was a different "KARA" in pre-Morrison JLA issue #116 on page 12 bottom left panel that Fire is talking to?


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G'Nort WAS in the JLA(which was called the JLI) He was called to lead JLAntartica, more liked dumped on it after it was formed it was how the rest of the JLI/JLA got G'nort out.

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First, grrenLanter1, I fully respect your idea, you have a concept about JLA membership that is narrow, when I, like most of the other posters, here, have a broad (very broad, maybe) vision.

But I want to be more clear.

Powergirl is on many issues of the Gerard Jones JLA (which end with 113, by the way), but she is not a member, she is a guest star, asking for help to the league.

She was only a member of JLE.

Not because a hero is in a team, he has to be considered a member.

Nightwing was in a issue of JL Task Force, but he didn't become a member (at the time, only the Martian Manhunter and Gypsie were).

Jay Garrick was in two issues of JLA, after the end of Jurgens' run, but that didn't make him a JLA member. He was there to help, stop.

So, if Powergirl and Maya are in the Crossover, so it should be G'Nort, too.

But that is my vision, and I don't pretend that you share it with me.


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DEAR GOD, fox...

you know they make lifetime movie specials about you???


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*sigh* All I wanna do is get G'Nort into comics...isn't that understandable??

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quote:
Originally posted by Fox420:
isn't that understandable??


huh?


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Heh.

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quote:
Originally posted by Rob Kamphausen:
DEAR GOD, fox...

you know they make lifetime movie specials about you???


...the one about breast cancer, the one about wifebeating, or the one about rape?

...that covers just about all Lifetime movie specials.


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Yes this has all three topics plus FOx's role as the stalker!

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I think it is funny that Carlin has never accually been to the DCMB.

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Boy was that a blast from the past. I had no idea I could be so annoying.

Anywho, just bumping this up to invite any G'Nort fans to the G'Nort Club on dccomics.com.

G'day!


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Quote:

Rob Kamphausen said:
DEAR GOD, fox... <P>you know they make lifetime movie specials about you???



I think that about sums up half of this entire thread.


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