And he also hates america. And everyone that wants to vote for him comes off as a complete tool. And the hippies want him to be president. I say want because they are too lazy to vote.
November 6th, 2012: Americas new Independence Day.
And he also hates america. And everyone that wants to vote for him comes off as a complete tool. And the hippies want him to be president. I say want because they are too lazy to vote.
I really don't care if you never said that you don't approve. You did say that Obama wants the Government to control everything. Like the banking industry. You accused one side of something that the other side is already doing. 'National Socialism' is the proper term for it I believe.
Funny. Four days before the NY Times printed your "McCain is Dole" theory, I read that said the recent overt hatred towards McCain is precisely because he isn't "the new Bob Dole", in that he might actually win:
The enduring scandal of the McCain campaign is that it wants to win. The press had hoped for a harmless, nostalgic loser like Bob Dole in 1996. In a column excoriating Republicans for historically launching successful attacks against Democratic presidential candidates in August, Time columnist Joe Klein excepted Bob Dole — not mentioning that Dole had been eviscerated by Clinton negative ads before August ever arrived.
The press turned on McCain with a vengeance as soon as he mocked Barack Obama as a celebrity....Whatever affection they still have for McCain is now expressed in self-interested yearning: Where is the McCain of old, the one who could be reliably counted on to lose?
It sounds to me like this is just another attempt by the Obamainstream Media to push the "McCain is old, vote Obama" message.
G-ma... the Republicans are starting to sound like the "victim" party. the victim of the "liberal media", the victim is "sexism", the victim of those evil bipartisa..um I mean "Democrat" invesigators in Alaska. It's whine whine and
If conservatives hate victimhood so much, why then does the Republican Party encourage its base to feel so aggrieved, especially at the hands of those snotty "elites"? Whether it's complaining about lipstick on a pig or bashing Washington insiders, the media and those oh-so-condescending Hollywood celebrities, Republicans have turned their own kind of victimhood into a political art form.
Romesh Ponnuru was a voice in the conservative wilderness Wednesday when he argued in a National Review blog that the GOP's response to Barack Obama's lipstick-on-a-pig comment is making Republicans look like "whiny grievance-mongers."
Just this June, Dennis Prager wrote that the "entire liberal-left [worldview] is predicated on portraying every group in America except white, male, heterosexual Christians as oppressed. Women are oppressed by men. Blacks and Hispanics are oppressed by whites. Gays are oppressed by straights. Non-Christians are oppressed by Christians."
He must have been surprised when, at the GOP convention, his own champions, Sarah Palin and Rudy Giuliani, flagrantly predicated their positions on the same kind of oppression, this time of Sam's Club, Main Street Republicans by those nasty "elites."
BTW, McCain is old. and i'll find some video and audio later on of that whole 'Spain is in in Latin America' interview a doddering McCain did. I'm sure you already heard it though. Although you wish you hadn't.
BTW this headline from the Washington Post says it all about McCain:
McCain has now lied about only buying American cars all his life. Is there nothing he won't lie about? This one was so easily refutable that it is laughable. He lies because he still assumes he can get away with doing it and the only consequence is a good talking point.
2004 Cadillac 2005 Volkswagen convertible 2001 Honda sedan 2007 half-ton Ford pickup truck vintage 1960 Willys Jeep 2008 Jeep Wrangler 2000 Lincoln 2001 GMC SUV three 2000 NEV Gem electric vehicles Lexis
John McCain has 13 cars. Barack Obama has 1. John McCain may have anywhere from 7 to 14 homes. Obama has 1. Yet we're to believe that McCain is the regular guy and Obama is the snooty elitist. It's quite sad and desperate really.
At this point, we ought to have an open and honest debate as to whether McCain has simply become a serial liar, willing to do anything and say anything in order to be president, or whether McCain is having serious problems with his memory and overall cognitive abilities due to old age, a recurrence of his cancer, initial Alzheimer's or some other illness.
Is it dementia, confusion, or what that is causing McCain to atypically say repeated falsehoods - from placing Spain in Latin America, to claiming that Palin was against the Bridge to Nowhere, to now saying that he's always bought American. We now know that at least 3 of the McCain's 13 cars - yes, McCain has 13 cars - are foreign cars (a Honda, a VW, and a Lexus). Now, I don't personally have a problem with someone buying a foreign car - though you know the Republicans would be all over Obama if his car were foreign (it's not, Obama owns one car and it's a Ford hybrid). But the issue here is that McCain has once again lied about yet another fact in his life, in order to get elected.
The old McCain didn't appear to be this much of a liar, or this confused about the facts. The new McCain has either decided to jettison his honor overboard, or is quite literally beginning to lose his mind. At 72 years of age with 4 bouts of rather serious cancer, the latter can't be ignored for much longer. Especially since there's a very real possibility that electing John McCain would make Sarah Palin president.
Huffington Post has put together a slide show of the McCain fleet.
This issue isn't so much about McCain's cars as it about yet another McCain lie designed to bolster some image of himself that simply isn't so.
John McCain has a John McCain moment talking to a crowd tonight:. It seems his mind went to hell after inventing the blackberry.
and if you think this is some isolated incident, your boy McCain went on some semi-coherent rant with a Spanish reporter. He thinks Spain is in Latin America, the stupid doddering fucker.
I'd start worrying about your boy's mental stability about now.
McCain has now lied about only buying American cars all his life. Is there nothing he won't lie about? Here's the McCain fleet as per Newsweek:
2004 Cadillac 2005 Volkswagen convertible 2001 Honda sedan 2007 half-ton Ford pickup truck vintage 1960 Willys Jeep 2008 Jeep Wrangler 2000 Lincoln 2001 GMC SUV three 2000 NEV Gem electric vehicles Lexis
Your quote said he's only bought American cars, not that he's never driven foreign cars or that no one in his family has ever bought one. Did McCain buy each and every one of those cars or did someone in his family (for example, his wife) buy the Honda, VW and the Lexis?
Furthermore, the Honda Accord HAS been made in America since 1982 while 2005 Volkswagen convertibles were made at the company's New Mexico plant.
I couldn't find any information on whether Lexus is made in the US. However, given that many, if not most, of the Toyotas sold in the US are, it would hardly be surprising or terrible for McCain to think the Lexus was made here too.
Now, should I go over to the Obama thread and again start pointing out all his gaffes and ask you to explain why this doesn't make HIM senile and/or a liar?
At one time,.. McCain looked like a good choice. ( many years ago ) now, however..its painfully obvious that age, and time have taken their toll. Like it ,or not, McCain is well past his prime,both intellectually,and responsibility wise. He is now a very dangerous choice to lead,and to make decisions on the future of our country. (after all.. his future is limited) To top it off..right now the economy is so messed up,that only complete co-operationbetween all 3 branches of government will even come close to making things better. McCain (or Palin) won't get that co-peration from either congress,nor the senate. It is possible, that McCain is suffering from the beginnings of "old-timers" , he doesn't seem to have a grip on reality.
To top it off..right now the economy is so messed up,that only complete co-operationbetween all 3 branches of government will even come close to making things better. McCain (or Palin) won't get that co-peration from either congress,nor the senate.
Please explain this as McCain is the one who has a track record of cooperation spanning most of his career and not Obama.
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet."
only complete co-operationbetween all 3 branches of government will even come close to making things better
You have no idea how the federal government works, do you?
The government is divided into three separate branches: the executive, legislative and judiciary. They are divided so that each branch provides "checks and balances" on the others, in order that the federal government cannot grow too powerful or any one branch threaten to take away our individual rights.
Furthermore, the idea that the judiciary branch is supposed to kowtow to the executive and legislative branches borders on a breach of judicial ethics. The function of the judiciary is to interpret laws, including the constitution, fairly to insure equal and fair justice. It is not, under any circumstance, to "cooperate" with the president or congress and rubber-stamp what they do.
The day people want the branches, especially judiciary, to "cooperate" is the day our freedom is completely gone.
Yep. "McCain is old" is this week's DNC talking point.
Yep. Here's 3 well known "democrat" operatives, Cokie Roberts, Sam Donaldson, and George Will yesterday repeating their DNC talking points.
Will and Roberts, neither of whom is awfully very friendly to Democrats (yes, G-Man, that was sarcasm above), both really ripped into McCain on ABC's This Week. And Sam Donaldson repeatedly said that McCain's actions this week brought back into question "the age issue." The Huffington Post has a 4 minute clip, it's devastating.
Quote:
"I suppose the McCain campaign's hope is that when there's a big crisis, people will go for age and experience," said Will. "The question is, who in this crisis looked more presidential, calm and un-flustered? It wasn't John McCain who, as usual, substituting vehemence for coherence, said 'let's fire somebody.' And picked one of the most experienced and conservative people in the administration, Chris Cox, and for no apparent reason... It was un-presidential behavior by a presidential candidate."
Donaldson then jumped in: "It was two days after the he said the fundamentals of the economy were strong. His talking points have gotten all mixed up. And I think the question of age is back on the table."...
The whole, painful, episode crested with Will leveling an even harsher blow.
"John McCain showed his personality this week," said the writer and pundit, "and made some of us fearful."
Oh yeah, G-Man I forgot, they work for the "liberal" media.
I'll see later if someone has YouTubed this segment. Ever get the feeling that the wheels are starting to come off the Straight Talk Express?
I'll see later if someone has YouTubed this segment.
My god. Post those things is a compulsion with you isn't it?
George Will, like a lot of conservatives, is being critical of McCain precisely for being a "moderate" or "maverick" on this issue. He's not saying that Obama is a better choice, simply expressing dismay that McCain isn't toeing the conservative line.
I'll see later if someone has YouTubed this segment.
My god. Post those things is a compulsion with you isn't it?
George Will, like a lot of conservatives, is being critical of McCain precisely for being a "moderate" or "maverick" on this issue. He's not saying that Obama is a better choice, simply expressing dismay that McCain isn't toeing the conservative line.
funny. It sure sounds like if he's being critical for McCain being a dumb knee jerk fall guy solution guy on this issue.
Yeah, YouTubes may be a compulsion for me but it seems endless spin is your compulsion. Will explains CLEARLY what he says and yet you twist it around to prop up his "maverick" bona fides once more.
I'm not really surprised by this, but someone seems to be focusing almost exclusively on reasons we shouldn't vote for mccain. possibly because it's so difficult to find one convincing reason to vote for black dukakis.
depending on how the exact percentages of the popular vote shake out we might have to revise it and start calling him black mcgovern.
only complete co-operationbetween all 3 branches of government will even come close to making things better
You have no idea how the federal government works, do you?
The government is divided into three separate branches: the executive, legislative and judiciary. They are divided so that each branch provides "checks and balances" on the others, in order that the federal government cannot grow too powerful or any one branch threaten to take away our individual rights.
Furthermore, the idea that the judiciary branch is supposed to kowtow to the executive and legislative branches borders on a breach of judicial ethics. The function of the judiciary is to interpret laws, including the constitution, fairly to insure equal and fair justice. It is not, under any circumstance, to "cooperate" with the president or congress and rubber-stamp what they do.
The day people want the branches, especially judiciary, to "cooperate" is the day our freedom is completely gone.
I'll remember this next time Bush's Unitary Executive Government comes up in conversation.
I'll remember this next time Bush's Unitary Executive Government comes up in conversation.
I think it bears repeating that at least for some of us, having a registered affiliation doesn't guarantee we'll all fall in lockstep with every single policy of our party's politicians. you should look into that sometime.
only complete co-operationbetween all 3 branches of government will even come close to making things better
You have no idea how the federal government works, do you?
The government is divided into three separate branches: the executive, legislative and judiciary. They are divided so that each branch provides "checks and balances" on the others, in order that the federal government cannot grow too powerful or any one branch threaten to take away our individual rights.
Furthermore, the idea that the judiciary branch is supposed to kowtow to the executive and legislative branches borders on a breach of judicial ethics. The function of the judiciary is to interpret laws, including the constitution, fairly to insure equal and fair justice. It is not, under any circumstance, to "cooperate" with the president or congress and rubber-stamp what they do.
The day people want the branches, especially judiciary, to "cooperate" is the day our freedom is completely gone.
I'll remember this next time Bush's Unitary Executive Government comes up in conversation.
Great. Another person who doesn't understand how government works.
As noted above, each branch is supposed to serve as a check and balance on the other. However, that doesn't mean the other branches are supposed to automatically oppose each other for the sake of partisanship and more than it means that they are supposed to always march in lockstep.
Since picking Sarah Palin as his running mate, John McCain has obliterated what had been a 34-percentage-point deficit in a poll of likely women voters on the question of which candidate has a “better understanding of women and what is important” to them.
The two are now effectively tied, with McCain's 44 to 42 percentage lead within the margin of error of the most recent poll conducted by pollsters Kellyanne Conway and Celinda Lake for Lifetime Television. In Lifetime's July poll, women preferred Barack Obama on the same question by nearly three-to-one— 52 to 18 percent.
In this latest poll, conducted Sept. 11-15, age remained a key determinant in response to the question about women’s concerns. Young women, ages 18-34, chose the Obama/Biden ticket as more empathetic to their needs, while women aged 35-64 went for McCain/Palin. Unlike black and Hispanic women, White women saw McCain and Palin as most understanding of their concerns.
About one in four women who supported Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton in the primaries now said McCain and Palin have a better grasp of women’s needs than Obama and his running mate, Sen. Joe Biden.
The Lifetime poll reveals a diversity of women’s views on several issues, with many of those differences related to a respondent’s race, party identity, marital status and generation.
However, those demographic differences faded when it came to the Democrats’ strongest showing in the poll, on a question regarding the economy. The women polled favored the Obama/Biden ticket 57 to 32 percent on which candidate “will help middle class families the most.” Polling has shown all year that the economy tops voters' concerns.
The survey comes as women overall favor the Democratic ticket, 48 to 44 percent, according to the weekly summaries of Gallup polling. That marks a wider margin than Democrats enjoyed in 2004 on Election Day, but less than in 2000.
That Democratic drop-off with women since 2000, Gallup polling shows, is tied to Obama’s recent downtick in white support among women and men alike. All summer Obama had roughly similar support among white women as Al Gore did in 2000.
Gallup finds McCain now leads with white women 51 to 40 percent, a wider gap than the GOP enjoyed among white women eight years ago.
However, it appears that Obama’s message of “change” has struck a chord with women, who in the Lifetime poll gave the Obama/Biden ticket a 14-point advantage on the question, 51 to 37 percent over the McCain/Palin ticket.
Overall, women said Obama and Biden would best “reform the way Washington, D.C. does business” by 47 to 40 percent. But white women narrowly favored the McCain/Palin ticket on that count.
And, independent women gave the GOP ticket an 8-point advantage on the change issue.
When women were asked which ticket could better “win” the war in Iraq, white, Hispanic and independent women, as well as women of every age group, voiced more confidence in McCain/Palin.
But when these women were asked which candidates can most likely “end” the war in Iraq, Obama/Biden earned significantly more support. Women under age 55, Hispanic women, and independent women had more trust in the Democrats. Yet white women voiced more confidence in McCain/Palin to end the war.
Women overall did say the Republican ticket was more ready to lead, though Latinas and black women sided with Democrats. Democrats have a narrow advantage overall, 47 to 40 percent, as more capable reformers of government, though female independents and whites sided with the GOP.
The Lifetime Television/Every Woman Counts campaign poll of 534 American women likely to vote was conducted September 11 to 15, and has a margin of error of 4.4 percent.
The Politico: Biden criticizes Obama ad hitting McCain as technologically inept.
Joe Biden offered perhaps his most off-message statement yet since being tapped as Barack Obama's running mate, saying in an interview that he thought one of his campaign's own ads was "terrible" and hadn't know about it in advance.
Asked by CBS's Katie Couric about an ad Obama released earlier this month mocking John McCain for not being able to use a computer, Biden criticized the commercial and suggested it had been aired without his knowledge.
"I thought that was terrible by the way," Biden said of the computer ad in an interview broadcast tonight on the CBS Evening News
Asked why it was aired, Biden said: "I didn't know we did it and if I had anything to do with it, we would have never done it."
First you start off with the assumption that Obama is "elitist" and McCain is "experienced". That's pure talking point drivel from the right.
Are you fucking high?
Look, reasonable people can disagree on whether or not the wealthy, Harvard-educated, attorney is "elitist."
But how can anyone with half a brain in their head try to claim that McCain, with a 25 years in politics and another 20+ years of experience in the military before, is anything BUT experienced?
No word on whether warm milk is involved. All kidding aside, anyone else disturbed that before facing a test of his presidential abilities our possible future president needs a nap? Will Putin give McCain a time out? How about Ahmenidjad in Iran? More from Taegan:
Quote:
Sen. Barack Obama and Sen. John McCain will spend much of this week preparing for their first debate on Friday night.
The Wall Street Journal notes McCain "will spar this week in mock debates" with former Maryland lieutenant governor Michael Steele who will play Obama "and use many of his speaking patterns, tactics and body language." Obama "will practice with Greg Craig, a Washington lawyer and former official in the Clinton administration who is one of his few gray-haired advisers."
On the day of the debate, McCain "will host a town-hall event and take a short nap" while Obama "will work out or shoot hoops."
Interesting that McCain chose a black man to play Obama.
Oh, and G-Man, That "experience" that McCain touts hasn't helped him make gaffe after gaffe after gaffe that someone of his "experience" and expertise should know better (remember Lieberman whispering in his ear about Iran?). Experience IMO is being outweighed by the fact that he's 72 years old and starting to lose his sharpness. Not to mention the fact that he needs naps to be able to hold his own in a debate.
As a leading conservative writer and thinker, this is big. Note particularly the paragraph in which Will talks about McCain's "impulsive, intensely personal reactions to people." Will is talking about McCain's temper, but he's also talking between the lines about Sarah Palin. I suspect George Will is disgusted by McCain's choice of Palin, and and it's evidence, in both Will's mind and ours, of a certain hotheaded recklessness in McCain. He's a gambler, he goes with his gut, he's willing to risk it all - his reputation or your economy - all on whimsy. And America can't afford another playboy frat boy in the Oval Office.
Under the pressure of the financial crisis, one presidential candidate is behaving like a flustered rookie playing in a league too high. It is not Barack Obama.
Channeling his inner Queen of Hearts, John McCain furiously, and apparently without even looking around at facts, said Chris Cox, chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission, should be decapitated. This childish reflex provoked the Wall Street Journal to editorialize that "McCain untethered" -- disconnected from knowledge and principle -- had made a "false and deeply unfair" attack on Cox that was "unpresidential" and demonstrated that McCain "doesn't understand what's happening on Wall Street any better than Barack Obama does."
To read the Journal's details about the depths of McCain's shallowness on the subject of Cox's chairmanship, see "McCain's Scapegoat" (Sept. 19, Page A22). ...
Conservatives who insist that electing McCain is crucial usually start, and increasingly end, by saying he would make excellent judicial selections. But the more one sees of his impulsive, intensely personal reactions to people and events, the less confidence one has that he would select judges by calm reflection and clear principles, having neither patience nor aptitude for either.
It is arguable that, because of his inexperience, Obama is not ready for the presidency. It is arguable that McCain, because of his boiling moralism and bottomless reservoir of certitudes, is not suited to the presidency. Unreadiness can be corrected, although perhaps at great cost, by experience. Can a dismaying temperament be fixed?
