RKMBs Forums .::Important::. Politics and Current Events Sarah Palin for VP

Dude please, I know your upset but youve got to read the whole message, including the one it's a reply to. Calm down, Obama still has a chance.

Bill Clinton has just commented on John McCains VP pick:

Oh, I see. You're doing it again.

'K.

Palin has a track record of taking on big oil and winning, where is MoveOn.org's talking points about this? Obama and Biden talk about it she has done it, that is experience.

But, seriously, Jason: Palin is no less qualified to be President than Obama (may be more so given her executive experience) and, unlike Obama she isn't running for the top slot.

So, as BSAMS pointed out, it's pretty foolish for people to complain about her experience if they're backing Obama.

If Palin were at the top of the GOP ticket you might have a point, but she isn't.

Palin has a track record of taking on big oil and winning, where is MoveOn.org's talking points about this? Obama and Biden talk about it she has done it, that is experience.

the candidate who's running on change picked the old white man and the other guy choose a woman for VP. Makes no sense at all.

it does make sense for both of them. Obama is already the first black nominee, he picked Biden to add experience and blue collar cred. Mccain is an old white guy so he picked a woman to add the diversity angle to his campaign and probably also as an extra lure to the Hillary supporters who wanted a woman to be elected.

this is what google image gave me for her. Is this really the VP nominee?
This is "change you can jerk off to."

Anyone who wanted hillary elected is too retarded to vote republican.

No, the party who didn't elect the tards that ran against him.

I'm pretty happy! This has energized me as far as being excited for a McCain Presidency.

And McCain supports big oil...big time. So if G-man's point is taken, than MoveOn.org doesn't need a talking point.

What happened to your love affair with moderate or middle man politicians? Palin seems too right of center for you to identify with

This is exactly what I didn't want to hear from other people supporting my (reluctant) candidate; "There's a woman on McCain's ticket! This is cooler than sliced bread!"

Now I'm gonna be standing in the ballot line with a bunch of feminists who are only voting Conservative because there's a woman on the ticket. At least if it were Condi, I'd know feminists hate her too much to go for her as a woman, but with Palin coming out of left...Er, right field as a soccer mom, McCain's become all r0x0r and shit.

And then, of course, there's going to be a whole bunch of fucktards voting for boobs.

Fuck this! I hate myself even more for voting for this man now.

I haven't been to CNN or any other liberally-biased news source, yet. Seems every article online is written by a conservative.

As an Obama fan, though, I have to say I think the reactions I've seen have been pretty funny. The same people who have said over and over again that Obama is too inexperienced are out there saying that Palin is a great pick, because she's a new, fresh face. Her "lack of experience" isn't a problem, even though she has served zero time in national government and has spent much less time in leadership. She has no experience overseas.

Honestly, having read up on her recently (because I had no idea who she was before this) Palin seems like a good person and perhaps even a good candidate, but the GOP has lost all the hits it can make against Obama (the ones based on reality and non-self serving issues anyway). And the only thing supporters have been able to say good about her is that she's young, very different from what we're used to, and hot.

The RNC will be very interesting.

do you read the board or just make blind accusations? i wrote several posts in the VP thread about how this will grab women voters, I believe quite a few of us have said that.

Whoa there! Relax. No need to get all...emotional.

Considering Obama went for Biden, the one lauded for experience, I'd say McCain going for Palin was a tit for tat that made their mutual experience meters reciprocal.

It was good strategic move from both a feminist angle and a experience angle I'd say..

Considering Obama went for Biden, the one lauded for experience, I'd say McCain going for Palin was a tit for tat that made their mutual experience meters reciprocal.

Hi Spike Lee!

I totally agree that it's foolish for people to complain about her lack of experience. I alluded to that above.

However, I disagree with the rest of your post. The VP pick is just as important as the Presidential. The simple fact is that A VP CAN become President if something happens to the #1 honcho. That's part of the reason the VP is there. It's happened before, of course, and the VP-become-President was no less powerful or important than the man he replaced. And the VP choice is even more important in this election, since we're dealing with two presidential candidates with increased likelihoods of death during service.

So if you're going to say that Obama's lack of experience is a bad thing, then sorry, but Palin's is just as bad. If Palin's freshness is good, Obama's is just as good.

It's not the same thing because most people really vote for who they think will be the best President. There's more wiggle room when it comes to VP picks. Besides McCain just has to keep running spots with Biden talking about Obama's lack of experience & leave it at that.

I'm talking about the fact that a VP pick is potentially as important as the choice for President.

MEM is correct. Unless McCain is on camera calling Palin an incompetent, there's really no comparison in terms of the its effect on the race.

You're gonna have quite a but of trouble making this fly.

More wiggle room based on what, exactly? Perceptions? Because that's the only thing you offer.

I'm not talking about perception. I'm talking about the fact that a VP pick is potentially as important as the choice for President. I'm not talking about polls or votes. I'm talking about the stuff that happens after the swearing in.

I think Dan Quayle vs Lloyd Bentson did a good job of showing that people will more readily vote for the ticket with the experience at the top than vice-versa.

As for "what happens after the swearing in": McCain picks his cabinet and governs the country. If he dies in office, Palin takes over until at least the next election, with that same cabinet in place and, presumably, after several years of "on the job training."

I think that's a more palatable "worst case scenario" than hope that Biden is able to tell his inexperienced boss what to do.

Basically, jason and other liberals are arguing that we should vote for Obama because he won't be a leader and will let his number two run things behind the scenes: precisely the thing they attack Bush for.

I don't think anyone plans for their own assassination

I think that's a more palatable "worst case scenario" than hope that Biden is able to tell his inexperienced boss what to do.

Basically, jason and other liberals are arguing that we should vote for Obama because he won't be a leader and will let his number two run things behind the scenes: precisely the thing they attack Bush for.

I'm just trying to remember what happened the last time a Presidential candidate picked a woman as his running mate. 3 total electoral votes I believe?