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In this thread we will track Obama's broken campaign promises.


First off will be the federal campaign contribution, he backed out of so he could buy the election.

Second would be his pledge not to hire any former lobbyists.

Feel free to continue to add as space and bandwidth allow.

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Not so much a broken promise, but a noted hypocrisy:

http://omg.yahoo.com/blogs/a-line/michelle-obamas-election-night-dress/84

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Barack looked sharp as can be in a dark navy suit, which was custom made by Hart Schaffner Marx,


He criticized Palin's prop wardrobe, yet he is wearing $2000 custom suits. That money could have well been spent on the poor. Not surprising the suit maker's name is Marx.....

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I don't think rob has enough space on his server for a thread like this.


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Rob, could you possibly set up a separate server for this thread?

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 Originally Posted By: BASAMS The Plumber
In this thread we will track Obama's broken campaign promises.


First off will be the federal campaign contribution, he backed out of so he could buy the election.

Second would be his pledge not to hire any former lobbyists.

Feel free to continue to add as space and bandwidth allow.


Heh, I figured G-man would have been the one with this thread. Does G-man have some competition for the next 8 years?


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Please try and stay on topic.

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 Originally Posted By: BASAMS The Plumber
Please try and stay on topic.


I'm just concerned BSAMS.


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I guess this is truly a case of something being Nigger rigged


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Heh How can you criticize someones wardrobe when you buy infomericals on seven networks?

Besides his wife should be doing something with her wardrobe instead of bitching how she has never been proud of America before!


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The whole wardrobe thing was just silly. So they wanted her to look nice. Big fucking deal.


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Yeah but Michelle Obama....yeesh was she doing the classic Spiderwoman or what?!?!?!


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I think the wardrobe thing was pretty silly, but you do leave yourself open when you run on the "small town values" ticket and then spend thousands on clothes.
On the other hand if she wore the same crappy cheap suit at every appearance.

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Shit if she would have worn her small time values clothes they would have ridiculed her


She was damned if she did and damned if she didnt.


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 Originally Posted By: Steve T
I think the wardrobe thing was pretty silly, but you do leave yourself open when you run on the "small town values" ticket and then spend thousands on clothes.


As opposed to running on "protecting the working class" and spending thousands on a set with Greek columns to give a speech on?

The fact of the matter is that campaigns spend a shitload of money on image because that's how a modern campaign is run. Both sides need to do it.

The thing that burns so many of us on the GOP side is that only the republicans get shit for it from the center-left press, when in fact both sides do the same thing.

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http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/08/...rtual-fortress/

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President-elect Barack Obama's Chicago neighborhood has become a very different place to live now that Secret Service agents have turned the once easy-going area into a virtual fortress to protect the next president, The Times of London reported.




Assassination fears surrounding Obama, codenamed "Renegade" by his security on the campaign trail, mean that he may become the most heavily guarded president in history. After months of shaking hands with strangers, the President-elect delivered his victory speech from behind bulletproof glass in Chicago's Grant Park.




Streets around his mock-Georgian mansion in enclave by the University of Chicago have been closed. The main thoroughfare has been shut down because it passes his yard.




Visitors to the synagogue that faces his house must put their names on a list 24 hours before they attend so that their identities can be checked.



The hypocrisy of this man never ends. He is anti-gun, yet he doesn't mind his neighborhood being flooded with automatic weapons when they are for HIS protection.

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100 bucks says that even though visitors to the synagogue have to register, visitors to his neighbor Louis Farrakhan do not.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081111/ap_o...eKxRiyJSxKpg9IF

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WASHINGTON – Aides to President-elect Obama, who said lobbyists would not work in his White House, said Tuesday that lobbyists could serve in his transition so long as their activities do not involve areas of policy they have tried to influence in the past year.

John Podesta, a top transition aide, said federal lobbyists will be prohibited from any lobbying while they are at work on the transition.

The transition office said in a statement, "if someone has lobbied in the last 12 months, they are prohibited from working in the fields of policy on which they lobbied."

Podesta called the guidelines the toughest ever imposed by a presidential transition. But they seem to give lobbyists more leeway than Obama suggested they would have when he campaigned for the presidency.

"I have done more to take on lobbyists than any other candidate in this race," Obama said in speech last November in Spartanburg, S.C. "I don't take a dime of their money, and when I am president, they won't find a job in my White House."




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 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
 Originally Posted By: BASAMS The Plumber
In this thread we will track Obama's broken campaign promises.


First off will be the federal campaign contribution, he backed out of so he could buy the election.

Second would be his pledge not to hire any former lobbyists.

Feel free to continue to add as space and bandwidth allow.


Heh, I figured G-man would have been the one with this thread. Does G-man have some competition for the next 8 years?



I guess I'm behind the times, because last I looked, you were disgusted that Hillary was passed over for Obama, and planned to vote for McCain. I didn't see thew point where you moved to the Obama bandwagon.

I wonder what made you switch?

On topic, for openers, Obama promised to "govern from the middle", and then picked ultra-partisan Rham Emmanuel, who is both a partisan S.O.B. leftie, as well as being a former staffer of the Clinton administration. Obama said (back on April 1st in a YouTubed stump speech) that Hillary was "too tainted" to have a place in his white house, but now appoints one of the most vicious Clinton infighters as his chief of staff.

Obama also criticised the distance Bush kept from the media, and then at Obama's first press conference after the election on November 5th, he refused to take any questions from Fox News or the Washington Times, taking questions only from the softball glowingly pro-Obama media.

More hypocrisy to come, I'm sure. And plenty to cite still from the previous 21 months of his campaign.

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 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy

More hypocrisy to come,



Don't threaten us with more posts.


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Bill Ayers, the Vietnam War-era radical who was a campaign headache for Barack Obama, says in a new afterword to his memoir that the two were neighbors and family friends. Ayers' reflections appear in a new paperback release of his 2001 memoir, "Fugitive Days." The Associated Press obtained a copy of the new afterword Thursday.

"In 2008 there was a lot of chatter on the blogosphere about my relationship with Barack Obama: we had served together on the board of a foundation, knew one another as neighbors and family friends" Ayers writes.



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http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/14/obama-names-valerie-jarrett-white-house-senior-adviser/

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President-elect Barack Obama is naming his longtime friend and supporter Valerie Jarrett to be his White House senior adviser.

Jarrett, who hired Michelle Obama for a job in the Chicago mayor's office years ago, is one of the president-elect's closest friends and advisers. Her name has been floated for several top administration jobs. But Obama settled on the senior adviser role, said a person close to the president-elect and willing to speak only on background because the decision has not been officially announced.

A White House senior adviser can handle a range of duties. President George W. Bush's top political aide Karl Rove held the title in the current administration.

Jarrett has a background in real estate and politics in Chicago.


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Obama's new slogan?
  • "I'm going to be really patient with him. Change takes a lot of time," said Hannah Gold, 21, a junior studying political science at Hunter College.

And:
  • Those of us who have lived a few years know that real change takes a lot of time to effect in a massive nation the size of the USA. And even longer to manifest itself.

I have a feeling that that "Change takes a lot of time" is going to be a common expression over the next four years...especially among the people who mocked President Bush for failing to turn Iraq into a modern democracy overnight.

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I went out tonight and ran into a group of friends who are Obama supporters and, sure enough, the hive mind was already droning on about how "Bush made things so bad it will take Obama eight years at least to fix it."

The guy hasn't been sworn in yet and they are already making excuses for him.


Maybe instead of "Change You Can believe in" his slogan should be "change you can only imagine...because of BUSH"

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http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/19/transition.wrap/

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President-elect Barack Obama has chosen former Sen. Tom Daschle to be Secretary of Health and Human Services, and the former Senate majority leader has indicated he wants the job, three sources close to the transition told CNN Wednesday.

The sources said that Daschle negotiated that he will also serve as the White House health "czar," or point person, so that he will report directly to the incoming president.

By wearing two hats, Daschle -- not White House staffers -- will be writing the health care plan that Obama submits to Congress next year.

The sources said the precise timing of the announcement has not been worked out, but Daschle is likely to officially join the Obama transition team as the lead adviser on health issues in the next few weeks. VideoWatch: Ed Henry discusses the Daschle pick »

An Obama transition official would not comment.

Daschle is currently billed as a "special public policy adviser" in the Washington office of the lobbying firm Alston Bird, though he is technically not a federally registered lobbyist.

But his wife, Linda Daschle, is a registered lobbyist at the powerful firm Baker Donelson, which does have some clients in health-related fields.


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WASHINGTON (Reuters) – President-elect Barack Obama may consider delaying a campaign promise - to roll back tax cuts on high-income Americans - as part of his economic recovery strategy, two aides said on Sunday.

David Axelrod, the Obama campaign strategist who was chosen to be a senior White House adviser, was asked if the tax cuts could be allowed to expire on schedule after tax year 2010 rather than being rolled back by legislation earlier. "Those considerations will be made," he said on "Fox News Sunday."

Bill Daley, an adviser to Obama and commerce secretary under former President Bill Clinton, said on NBC's "Meet the Press" that the 2010 scenario "looks more likely than not."

President George W. Bush's tax cuts are set to expire at the end of 2010. After that they would revert to 2001 levels, when the top individual tax rate was 39.6 percent.

Obama has called for reducing taxes for the middle class, but requiring the wealthiest Americans to pay more than the current top rate of 35 percent.

His aides' comments suggest Obama may be wary of imposing any additional tax burden at a time of deep crisis, despite the outlook for record budget deficits and mounting national debt.


I like this Obama guys thinking. If we increase taxes on our companies it will slow economic growth. We need economic growth, not increasing taxes on business which will decrease their spending. Why could John McCain, and George Bush not understand this? This trickle down idea of Obama's is just the change we need!

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Interesting. Obama has "refined" his original promise to "create" 2.5 million jobs and now promises to create "or save" them.

This is, of course, an important distinction. Whether or not his plan created jobs is a much more measurable goal than saving them. In fact, except for government positions, there's really no way to show that any economic plan "saved" even a single job.

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His people are political geniuses. They'll take the worst case estimates for job losses during this recession and when it is over deduct the difference from worst case to what was actually lost and claim they saved x-amount of jobs. It's brilliant in that they know the press will not challenge the idiocy of the claim.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081130/pl_politico/15967;_ylt=AsF3CA.7LtqjMmOYr182mZes0NUE

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If there is one message President-elect Barack Obama’s transition team has broadcast about Cabinet picks, it is that ethnicity and gender will not be the first considerations when filling the slots.

Credentials over tokenism, after all, was a fundamental principle of Obama’s presidential campaign that highlighted his ideas and community values over his African-American background. Still, if all goes as planned, Cabinet members with hefty résumés will present a picture of diversity.

Hispanic political leaders agree. Their expectations for seats at the president’s top policy table are not about meeting quotas but about advancing the reality that within this fastest-growing ethnic group are seasoned policy experts who understand the economic, foreign and domestic policy concerns shared by everyone.

Obama promised hope and change, and Hispanics hoped for the usual two Latinos in the Cabinet. And heck, why not three or four? Now that would be a change.

But at this early stage in the appointments process, there is a trickle of disappointment running through the Latino community.

First, the most prominent Hispanic leader, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, lost the plum secretary of state assignment to New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. Last spring, Richardson angered the Clintonistas by backing Obama over Clinton during the heated Democratic Primary contest, only to now see her being offered the top diplomatic post.

“There’s nobody more prepared and experienced” for the job than Richardson, said Arturo Vargas, executive director of the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials. Richardson was energy secretary and ambassador to the United Nations during the Clinton administration, and he helped free hostages in North Korea, Iraq and Cuba.

Second, grass-roots immigrant rights activists have mixed feelings about Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano being the likely nominee to head the Department of Homeland Security.

Arizona is the epicenter of the national immigration crisis, and Napolitano, the popular border state governor, has navigated through turbulent rhetoric on all sides to calm the debate.

Napolitano signed into law last year the nation’s harshest penalties against employers who hire undocumented workers. While the law is being challenged in court, Napolitano has signed revisions that include protections for businesses that show good-faith efforts to follow the rules.

Some immigration advocates think she went too far to the right because of her political need to placate Arizona’s conservative voters.

“Several of us have not forgotten that she was the first to call for the National Guard along the border and called it ‘an emergency,’ and was sending the message that she might be appealing to the more conservative element who wanted to shut down the border,” said Jose Rodriguez, the county attorney in El Paso, Texas.

At the same time, Napolitano is lauded for opposing construction of a border fence and blocking bills that would require local police to arrest illegal immigrants. In an Obama administration, she would have the credibility to negotiate an immigration bill that is tough on employers, enforces border security and includes a compassionate legalization program of those now in the country illegally.

“She’s been very effective at balancing between toughness and fairness,” said Ali Noorani, executive director of the National Immigration Forum. “She thinks about her decisions, but then she does not leave them aside. She does not forget about them.”

Generally, Latinos would have been ecstatic if Obama had included a Hispanic in the early top-level announcements that have included African-Americans and women along with white men.

The first major Hispanic appointment finally emerged on Wednesday, when Cecilia Muñoz, senior vice president of National Council of La Raza, was picked to be the new administration’s Intergovernmental Affairs director. Muñoz is a national Hispanic leader who in recent years has been a driving force in the push for comprehensive immigration reform.

And what might have seemed like bad news is not so bad after all.

Though Richardson did not get the position at State, he is set to be nominated as commerce secretary, a post that will be vital to the growth of Latino political empowerment. The Commerce Department will oversee the 2010 Census, which will be used to draw government districts from the federal to local levels. The Census also determines the distribution of about $300 billion in federal funds each year.

At Commerce, Richardson would be at the forefront of economic issues including international trade and business development and would have a hand in immigration discussions.

Business, civil rights and immigrants rights leaders are urging the incoming Obama administration to include an overhaul of the immigration system as part of the economic recovery strategy.

An aggressive economic development program along the U.S.-Mexico border would offer a “long-term solution to migratory pressures,” according to a recent study by the U.S.-Mexico Border and Immigration Task Force made up of religious, community and law enforcement leaders in Arizona, New Mexico and Texas.

With several more Cabinet-level seats still to be filled, Latinos see Obama’s team seriously considering long lists of Hispanics.

At the Department of Housing and Urban Development, which will be neck deep in fixing the housing financial meltdown, numerous Hispanics are being considered, including Miami Mayor Manny Diaz; Adolfo Carrion Jr., the Bronx Borough president who also leads NALEO; and Saul N. Ramirez Jr., a former deputy housing secretary during the Clinton years and a former mayor of Laredo, Texas.

The Obama transition team also has been searching for a Hispanic to head any of three departments: Interior, Agriculture and Transportation. Rep. Raul M. Grijalva (D-Ariz.), the chairman of the House National Parks, Forests and Public Lands Subcommittee, has been being mentioned as candidate for Interior.

Post-election talk had mentioned a couple of Latinas to head the Labor or Education departments. Though it now seems less likely, NALEO’s Vargas encouraged their consideration. “It would be an important symbol to name a Latina to the Cabinet,” he said. There are Latinas “who are fully capable of running the Department of Education, for example.”

Besides being a growing segment of the population. Election Day exit polls showed that 67 percent of Hispanics voted for Obama and were the deciding factor for his wins in at least two battleground states.

Hispanics belong at Obama’s policy table.

Appointment to the highest levels of government “does not have to be about minority representation. It’s what you expect because of the way that [Obama] won and because of the way he wants to govern the country,” said Janet Murguia, president of the National Council of La Raza.


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Obama Ditches Crude Tax: Now that oil hit $50 a barrel, president-elect turns back from campaign plan to use revenue from windfall profits tax to fund a rebate for middle class struggling with energy prices

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man of Zur-En-Arrh
Obama Ditches Crude Tax: Now that oil hit $50 a barrel, president-elect turns back from campaign plan to use revenue from windfall profits tax to fund a rebate for middle class struggling with energy prices


So much for the democrat idea that the oil companies were just hoarding oil and swindling everyone out of their money.

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REACH OUT AND TOUCH SOMEONE
  • For all the talk about an Obama transition team not using Washington lobbyists for assistance, there sure are a lot of private meetings being held with Washington corporate lobbyists at Obama transition offices around the nation's capital.

    According to Obama transition insiders, senior Obama staff have held or have scheduled meetings with lobbyists from the telecom, health-care, pharmaceutical, energy, and automotive industries, asking for their input into stimulus packages and for their assistance in lobbying the House and the Senate for tax credits and line item funding items for appropriations and budget items to be placed in legislation that may come before Congress before the Obama Administration takes office.

    "We ran against companies like that throughout the campaign, and now we're getting in bed with them. It stinks, and we want it to end," says the source.

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Obama's more than a month away from being inaugurated, and he already has his first major scandal, that could destroy his presidency before it even begins.



"Culture of corruption", anyone?

The only difference between Obama's crew and that of the Bush administration is that Obama now has the largest donors coming to him for taxpayer-funded favors.
Including Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and Wall Street. Not to mention MoveOn.org and ACORN.

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WB did you see my Jeremy is a cockstealer thread? Please be careful.


Jeremy is a cockstealer topic



Thanks for the warning !

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