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She was crazy. She might have seen him and not remembered.


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In addition, I think she made it a point to hide from the Others and, prior to the Oceanic crash, I believe that Ben generally only sent his minions out to the areas she frequented.

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They also weren't going to have Ben as a main character. After a couple of episodes they realized he should be the leader of the others.


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That is just what Jerry wants you to believe.

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 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
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Which is sad, because that's one of the two couples I wanted a 'Happy Ending' for ...




"The Constant" and Desmond reuniting with Penny should have been the end of their arc. If she's dead that would really shit on one of the best eps of the series.


It would be a nice surprise if they gave them a happy ending. Can't say I cared much for Desmond until they developed his relationship with Penny.


in desmond's first "time travel" incident, desmond tells elloise that he's going to spend his life together with penny.

she replies, "no, you're not"

she goes on to tell him that it might not be what he chooses, but rather what his path is. so, like, a pre-determined fate. which, if that is what's steering the show, could be why some people are seemingly unable to die (richard alpert, eye patch guy, locke, ben, michael, etc). and maybe even something like the smoke monster exists just to make sure everything lives up to what its fate is sposda be.


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But Desmond, being Desmond, COULD change whatever's destined for him, or even what's already happened. He's the wild card.


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or iiiis he?!?!

he's apparently able to alter some things, but (possibly) only temporarily. i.e; saving charlie from dying. eventually, fate found a way to correct itself.


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A scene from the season finale

Warning, Spoiler:


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heh


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Mon Jun 11 2007 09:27 PM-harley finally rolled with me
"I'm working with him...he's young but, there is much potential. He can apprentice with me and then he's yours for final training. He will remember the face of his father...

Some day, Knutreturns just may be the greatest of us all...."-THE bastard
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Kate episode.


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Guyliner: "Don't worry, he won't remember any of this. Its a very convenient plot point that renders one of the coolest moments in the show moot."


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The Hurley and Miles time travel discussion was the best part of this one.


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hurley's take on the nuttiness of everything has been great all season. the show clearly mocking itself. very clever.

i was just doing some research on feng shui of all things, and found a buncha imagery, including an official symbol for the practice. why it has an official "logo", i dunno. i also dunno if this has been discussed here before, or if i'm just the last to the party, but either way, for those of you also dumb, here y'go, the dharma-looking feng shui ...wheel thing:



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You are so gay.


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don't you have... nothing... better to do, at all?

...with no one?


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 Originally Posted By: Rob Kamphausen
i was just doing some research on feng shui


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is there greater respect to researching damp, dingy, girl-less basements?


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What is this non-existent basement everyone keeps talking about?


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oh, sorry.

i meant your "secret lair"


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Not trying to save little Ben is the most interesting thing Jack has done in ages.

So I guess little Ben will still kill all the Dharma fuckers.

Did Jack not saving the boy just make him look scummy to you?

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I mean more so than before.

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 Originally Posted By: rex
Guyliner: "Don't worry, he won't remember any of this. Its a very convenient plot point that renders one of the coolest moments in the show moot."


I wonder why they felt the need to do that. Ben is a sneaky bastard, if they said he remembers everything I wouldn't be shocked.

He clearly remembers Juliet, though.


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John should have given Ben a gorilla mask while he was unconscious.

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Tea bagged him and took a picture to show to all his friends.

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 Originally Posted By: Ultimate Jaburg53
So I guess little Ben will still kill all the Dharma fuckers.


That's one of the things I don't get. Guyliner said that Ben would forget everything that happened and won't be able to return to the dharma initiative but in season three he is still with them when he kills his dad and the rest of the "others" kill everyone else. Either guyliner is telling a very convenient lie or they do have the power to change history.


This all makes me think that next season's big thing is going to be multiple time lines.


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I took "not able to return" to mean emotionally, he's an "Other", now. He could live with the Dharmas as a spy, but would be basically an "Undercover Other."

And whose to say Richard wasnt lying about Ben's memory?

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He didn't say Ben couldn't go back to Dharma, Rich just said he would always truly be an other.

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 Originally Posted By: Ultimate Jaburg53
He didn't say Ben couldn't go back to Dharma, Rich just said he would always truly be an other.


aye

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Not trying to save little Ben is the most interesting thing Jack has done in ages.

Did Jack not saving the boy just make him look scummy to you?


i think one of the points of this is to say if jack had just been a good guy doctor and saved ben, ben wouldn't have grown up to be the creepy, murdering otherphile. i.e; jack's refusal to help is what made ben bad


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They all have some responsibility (or at least some way to blame themselves if they're feeling emo). Sayid shot him, Jack didn't operate, Kate and Sawyer took him to the Others, Juliet helped them, Hurley is fat.


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i blame hurley


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So, what the fuck happened to Daniel?

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In the beginning of the season we saw him as one of the workers in a Dharma excavation near the time wheel.


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The episode airing on the 29th of this month is rumored to be a daniel centric episode. Its also said to be a follow up of the constant. Except to find out where he is then.


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Ben already wanted to go to the other because his Dad is a cocksucker.


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So whomod's daughter wants to join the Others?

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 Originally Posted By: rex
Except to find out where he is then.


....yes, go on. Except to find out where he is then...what?

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I meant "expect"


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YOU DID??!!?????!!

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